Around Hockey XVI (All Non-Jackets Hockey talk in here)

[Samkow]

That strikes me as a little bass-ackwards. I mean, we've got smaller rinks, right? The Ohio Expo Center (or whatever they call where the Chill played) is still around, last I checked, and they've yet to tear down St. John Arena.

There's no way the Coliseum could host games without 5-10 million dollars of upgrades, which doesn't have a chance of happening. It's a total dump.

 

[DarkandStormy]

St. John Arena has never hosted a hockey game in its near-60 year existence.

The OSU ice rink (not the Schott) holds 1,500. I guess Porty is saying the city needs to have a "mid-size" rink that isn't The Barn/Coliseum?

 

[Fro]

Philadelphia Flyers ‏@NHLFlyers 7m7 minutes ago
Breaking: The #Flyers have signed D Nick Schultz to a multi-year contract extension

 

[Jovavic]

Good for Schultz, I liked him when he was here last season

 

[Viqsi]

St. John Arena has never hosted a hockey game in its near-60 year existence.

Wow. Somehow I'd gotten it into my head that the OSU men's team had played there. I have no idea how that happened.

 

[Robert]

The Rangers and Rick Nash are kicking Buffalo butt tonight...

Nash has 37 goals this season.... is it Nash scoring or the organization providing the environment so that he has the opportunity to score??

 

[cbjfaninmo]

Bruins 1-0 after 1. Blues look like crap so far. Malcolm Subban is getting his first NHL start. He only saw 3 shots on goal in the first.

 

[Johansen2Foligno]

The Rangers and Rick Nash are kicking Buffalo butt tonight...

Nash has 37 goals this season.... is it Nash scoring or the organization providing the environment so that he has the opportunity to score??

See: Chicken vs. Egg argument

 

[cbjfaninmo]

3-1 Blues in second. Subban gives up 3 goals on 6 shots and gets pulled. Rask is in.

 

[Johansen2Foligno]

3-1 Blues in second. Subban gives up 3 goals on 6 shots and gets pulled. Rask is in.

Krejci hurt as well. Looked pretty serious.

 

[ndd17]

*** Boston. I wish them all ills. I don't like this team.

 

[DarkandStormy]

Panthers with a chance to jump into the last WC spot.

 

[EspenK]

Just reading through some NHL stats and found this to be interesting/amazing. Nash has only 9 pp points out of 54 pts. Most of the point leaders have around 40% of their points from pp.

 

[major major]

The Capitals are clearly outplaying the Isles right now, and they outskated the Jets the other night too. Somethings really clicked for them.

 

[WannabeFinn]

Just reading through some NHL stats and found this to be interesting/amazing. Nash has only 9 pp points out of 54 pts. Most of the point leaders have around 40% of their points from pp.

Yeah it's pretty amazing, he's quite the prolific even strength scorer.

 

[MAHJ71]

The Capitals are clearly outplaying the Isles right now, and they outskated the Jets the other night too. Somethings really clicked for them.

Took a little while for them to wake up, Isles controlled most of the first period.

 

[WannabeFinn]

The Capitals are clearly outplaying the Isles right now, and they outskated the Jets the other night too. Somethings really clicked for them.

I wonder how having the Rocket Richard and Art Ross leaders has effected them

 

[MAHJ71]

Anybody looking forward to the Sharks/Kings Stadium Series game tonight?

I'm not crazy about the 10PM start time but, west coast folks had to deal with the Caps/Hawks starting early morning their time.

 

[CBJx614]

Damnit. ..we shouldn't have traded Gaborik. .

 

[WannabeFinn]

Damnit. ..we shouldn't have traded Gaborik. .

I'm still of the opinion that it was the right thing to do. He's thriving with a change of scenery, it happens a lot in the world of sports. Dumping his salary and receiving some pieces that might actually help us win the Cup some day was the best thing we could've done with the hand we were dealt.

 

[Mayor Bee]

I'm still of the opinion that it was the right thing to do. He's thriving with a change of scenery, it happens a lot in the world of sports. Dumping his salary and receiving some pieces that might actually help us win the Cup some day was the best thing we could've done with the hand we were dealt.

In the span of 18 months, Derick Brassard, John Moore, Derek Dorsett, and a 6th-round pick turned into:
- 4 games of Matt Frattin, which turned into
- 0 games of Jerry D'Amigo, which turned into
- 0 games of Luke Adam, plus
- A 2nd-round pick two years after the original trade, plus
- A 2nd-round pick, which was traded for
- A 3rd-round pick (Elvis Merzlikins) and a 2015 3rd-rounder

The abbreviated version:
- Derick Brassard
- Derek Dorsett
- John Moore
- 6th-rounder

For:
- Luke Adam
- Elvis Merzlikins
- Toronto's 2015 2nd-rounder
- Detroit's 2015 3rd-rounder

Also consider that Dorsett was later traded straight-up for a 3rd-rounder. And I have my doubts that Luke Adam will be a piece that might help this team win the Cup some day, but that's just me.

 

[WannabeFinn]

In the span of 18 months, Derick Brassard, John Moore, Derek Dorsett, and a 6th-round pick turned into:
- 4 games of Matt Frattin, which turned into
- 0 games of Jerry D'Amigo, which turned into
- 0 games of Luke Adam, plus
- A 2nd-round pick two years after the original trade, plus
- A 2nd-round pick, which was traded for
- A 3rd-round pick (Elvis Merzlikins) and a 2015 3rd-rounder

The abbreviated version:
- Derick Brassard
- Derek Dorsett
- John Moore
- 6th-rounder

For:
- Luke Adam
- Elvis Merzlikins
- Toronto's 2015 2nd-rounder
- Detroit's 2015 3rd-rounder

Also consider that Dorsett was later traded straight-up for a 3rd-rounder. And I have my doubts that Luke Adam will be a piece that might help this team win the Cup some day, but that's just me.

I was referring towards what the draft pick(s) have and will become. Those players will have a greater impact on Columbus winning the Cup than Gaborik had while sitting on the IR. I'd also say it's a little too simplistic to say (or at least imply) we traded Brassard and co. for that haul. We bought high at one TDL, saw our investment take a large hit with his play and injuries, and then sold a little low at the next TDL. Keep in mind, Thomas Vanek was essentially a PPG player with the Isles while remaining healthy that season and he brought in a haul of lesser value than Gaborik's. Player values change, markets change.

 

[Tulipunaruusu*]

Former Finnish dynasty team, TPS, pictured after a 8-1 home loss, before the juniors (who won a ticket selling contest with their total of 600 sold) are finally allowed to enter the locker room where they were supposed to meet the team some time earlier... of course most players had by then already left. Meeting was later rescheduled for another occasion.

Meanwhile TPS head coach Miika Elomo (former NHL first round pick) is at the after-game press conference telling that those fans who threw their season tickets on the ice are mickey mouses who should criticize him, not the players.

One month and heavy streak of losses later:

Last week Elomo was fired after his weekend had featured an early morning bar brawl. TPS said of the decision to let him go that the organization's and Elomo's ethics didn't meet. Of course they then hired another caretaker head coach - a man who was fired from his last coaching job after punching his own player at local night club...

 

[Fro]

2-0 Bruins over Chicago...is Boston turning the corner??? or just hitting Chicago overlooking them?

 

[CBJWerenski8]

2-0 Bruins over Chicago...is Boston turning the corner??? or just hitting Chicago overlooking them?

Idk but Rask getting two penalties and a goal against in 5 seconds probably won't help their cause. What an idiotic sequence for him