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You are hired as the Jets' GM as soon as this season's Stanley cup is awarded.
What are you going to do to help improve the Jets.
Here's me as the GM...

Re-sign PLD to a 6 to 8 year deal around 7.75m per year.

All coaches are fired including video and goalie coaches.
Hire Julien as HC with a 3 year deal and a club option for the 4th.
Julien picks his assistants.

Re-sign Stastny for a 2 x 2.5m deal.

Retain 2m of Wheeler's contract and trade him.
Let the players vote on the new captain and assistants.
I'd hope for a C for Stastny and As to Morrissey and Lowry.

Trade Dillon, Gawanke, 2022 1st rounder and a 4th rounder for Konecny.

Trade Schmidt for whatever I can get for him.

Re-sign Comrie for about 850k for another season.

Offer Sanford 2 x 2.25m.

Re-sign Svech for 2 or 3 years.

Re-sign Apples for 3 years. (3 x 1.5m?)

Re-sign Gus, Kovs and Hark to 2 year deals.

Our top 6 would be Konecny, PLD, KC, Scheif, Ehlers and Perfetti.

Bottom 6 would be Lowry, Stastny, Svech, Apples, Barron, Hark, and Gus. I'd be looking for a good vet for the bottom 6 like Perron for example.

Our D would consist of JMo, Samberg, Heinola, Stanimal, DD, Pionk, Chisholm and Kovs.
I'd look really hard at improving our right side of the D and moving DD down to play with Heinola and trading Pionk in a deal for someone to play with Morrissey.


KC PLD Konecny
Perfetti Scheif Ehlers
Barron Stastny Svech
Gus/Hark Lowry Apples

JMo DD
Samberg Pionk
Heinola Kovs
Chisholm/Stanley

Helle Comrie (Julien played Thomas 57 games during the regular season the year the Bruins won the cup...just saying)
 
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You are hired as the Jets' GM as soon as this season's Stanley cup is awarded.
What are you going to do to help improve the Jets.
Here's me as the GM...

Re-sign PLD to a 6 to 8 year deal around 7.75m per year.

All coaches are fired including video and goalie coaches.
Hire Julien as HC with a 3 year deal and a club option for the 4th.
Julien picks his assistants.

Re-sign Stastny for a 2 x 2.5m deal.

Retain 2m of Wheeler's contract and trade him.
Let the players vote on the new captain and assistants.
I'd hope for a C for Stastny and As to Morrissey and Lowry.

Trade Dillon, Gawanke, 2022 1st rounder and a 4th rounder for Konecny.

Trade Schmidt for whatever I can get for him.

Re-sign Comrie for about 850k for another season.

Offer Sanford 2 x 2.25m.

Re-sign Svech for 2 or 3 years.

Re-sign Apples for 3 years. (3 x 1.5m?)

Re-sign Gus, Kovs and Hark to 2 year deals.

Our top 6 would be Konecny, PLD, KC, Scheif, Ehlers and Perfetti.

Bottom 6 would be Lowry, Stastny, Svech, Apples, Barron, Hark, and Gus. I'd be looking for a good vet for the bottom 6 like Perron for example.

Our D would consist of JMo, Samberg, Heinola, Stanimal, DD, Pionk, Chisholm and Kovs.
I'd look really hard at improving our right side of the D and moving DD down to play with Heinola and trading Pionk in a deal for someone to play with Morrissey.


KC PLD Konecny
Perfetti Scheif Ehlers
Barron Stastny Svech
Gus/Hark Lowry Apples

JMo DD
Samberg Pionk
Heinola Kovs
Chisholm/Stanley

Helle Comrie (Julien played Thomas 57 games during the regular season the year the Bruins won the cup...just saying)
I guess you offered Sanford the cash and he said no? Easy enough to say trade Wheeler with retention but trade him where and for what return?

Here's mine:

Extend PLD 7 by $8M

Hire Bruce Boudreau as HC and let him bring in his own staff

Let Sanford and Stastny walk

Trade Stanley to the Kings for Helge Grans

Trade Schmidt to the Wings for a 3rd round pick

Extend Appleton, Comrie, Gawanke, Gus, Harkins, Kovacevic, Svech & Vesalainen

See if I could get Bauer under contract

See if I could lure Lucius to the Moose instead of staying in college.

Talk to Wheeler about accepting a 3rd line role and if he won't be a good teammate and accept it graciously showing that everyone needs to do the role that is asked of them then I buy him out.

I trade back in the draft with the Capitals in exchange for their 1st and pick Sam Rinzel in the early 20s and also I get their 2023 2nd round pick.

I reach out to Buffalo and acquire the rights to Erik Portillo, Devon Levi or Ukka Pekka-Luukonen as our goalie of the future. Portillo is likely the most expendable so I'd ask about him first.

I pick Cruz Lucius in the 2nd round of the draft.

I keep Heinola in the minors and find a 7th Dman that is good in the room but realizes they will never play a game and won't make waves about it. Like see if Bitteto or someone like that would come here as our 7th dman.

Lineup

KFC PLD Svech
Perfetti Scheif Ehlers
Baron Lowry Wheeler
Harkins Gus Appleton
Vesalainen Toninato

JMo DeMelo
Samberg Pionk
Dillon Kovacevic
Glue guy/stapled to the pressbox

Helle
Comrie

Minors additions in Lucius, Grans and Portillo
Get another high potential big, good skating RHD in Rinzel and a brother connection.
Heinola would be the first callup and would play when called up over glue guy.
 
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Not as in depth:

1. Fire all coaching staff and hire Pascal Vincent: let him chose his staff

2. Wheeler trade/retain or buyout.

3. Ascertain Sheif's plans....if hes not a franchise player then trade him for a young stud D man and good back up.

The rest would be in consult with the coach as to what system he wants and what players we have that suit that and who to target.

- New identity for the entire organization....I'd love to push for a jersey modernization, game day entertainment change, bring a fun environment in to the game.
 

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Julien or Boudreau as new coach (3+ deal)

Scheif/Stan for Horvat/Garland (balance with pick if necessary) - Vancouver does this to dump salary to afford Boeser, etc and reunite Scheif with Maurice :cool:)

Keep Dillon because he would do well in a Julien system

Schmidt for 3rd pick to anyone

Wheeler buyout

Stas back at $3m

Jomo C, PLD and Lowry as A

Connor-PLD-Svech (18 million)
Ehlers-Horvat-Garland (17 million)
Perfetti-Stas-Apples (5 million)
Barron-Lowry-Sanford(7 million)
Harkins-Gus (2 million)

Jomo-DeMelo (10 million)
Samberg-Pionk (7 million)
Heinola-Dillon (5 million)
Kova-Gawanke (2 million)

Helle-Comrie (7 million)

Numbers very rough... Obviously these lines can be juggled...

I think that's enough depth for a playoff run - if we can get Boeser for Scheif... I mean hey go for it

The extra $5m from wheeler is tricky but maybe it means Sanford is out
 

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If your Armchair GM plan requires trading Wheeler, he has a 5 team trade list for the final 2 seasons of his contract so he gets to very carefully select a landing spot. If I was guessing that would include the 2 Florida teams since it is well known he has an off season property there, they are both strong contenders and they have no state income tax. After that I would look at which US teams come closest to meeting his needs. I'd say the most likely being the Avs, LV, NYR and Minny.
 
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If your Armchair GM plan requires trading Wheeler, he has a 5 team trade list for the final 2 seasons of his contract so he gets to very carefully select a landing spot. If I was guessing that would include the 2 Florida teams since it is well known he has an off season property there, they are both strong contenders and they have no state income tax. After that I would look at which US teams come closest to meeting his needs. I'd say the most likely being the Avs, LV, NYR and Minny.

I just don’t see any possible or maybe better way to say it likely way Wheeler gets traded. Between his 5 team list, cap hit and two years term…..I see no trade and I highly doubt a small market team after reduced revenues due to COVID would consider a buy out. I just can’t see any likely way Wheeler isn’t on the team next year.

If a trade was possible of Wheeler, it would likely start by saying to him…..look Blake you’ve done a lot of good things for the city & team but we need you to play a reduced role on the 2nd or 3rd line, if you can’t accept that then we need you to be flexible with your 5 team list to help us trade you which helps you also. Then it likely involves retaining 1.5-2 million on him.

I would do Wheeler+ for Petry, but no chance Wheeler agrees to go to the Habs.
 
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KingBogo

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I just don’t see any possible or maybe better way to say it likely way Wheeler gets traded. Between his 5 team list, cap hit and two years term…..I see no trade and I highly doubt a small market team after reduced revenues due to COVID would consider a buy out. I just can’t see any likely way Wheeler isn’t on the team next year.

If a trade was possible of Wheeler, it would likely start by saying to him…..look Blake you’ve done a lot of good things for the city & team but we need you to play a reduced role on the 2nd or 3rd line, if you can’t accept that then we need you to be flexible with your 5 team list to help us trade you which helps you also. Then it likely involves retaining 1.5-2 million on him.
I think the most likely is Wheeler buying into a reduced role. There has never been anything to suggest he won't take on whatever role he is asked to take on, irrespective of the active imaginations of some.
 

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I think the most likely is Wheeler buying into a reduced role. There has never been anything to suggest he won't take on whatever role he is asked to take on, irrespective of the active imaginations of some.

I mean, the fact that he's been played ahead of a better winger for three years is 'something to suggest' it... I guess I have a very active imagination though :p
 

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I think the most likely is Wheeler buying into a reduced role. There has never been anything to suggest he won't take on whatever role he is asked to take on, irrespective of the active imaginations of some.

Agreed

I think Wheeler is back here next year in a reduced role, maybe next summer he’s traded or not. Jets may change the letters and someone else named captain. Josh? Adam?

Mark gets traded. PLD gets a A.
 
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Hunter368

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I mean, the fact that he's been played ahead of a better winger for three years is 'something to suggest' it... I guess I have a very active imagination though :p

Players don’t control what line they play on, coaches do blame PMO, Blake did what he was asked. Zero evidence of what your suggesting.
 

KingBogo

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Agreed

I think Wheeler is back here next year in a reduced role, maybe next summer he’s traded or not. Jets may change the letters and someone else named captain. Josh? Adam?

Mark gets traded. PLD gets a A.
I don't think we see Scheifele traded. Admitted we haven't always seen his best but no player on the team has the overall offensive game he has. With a new coach and him feeling a little less comfortable I think there is the possibility of a dominant season from him. If the Jets hope to contend in the present window the organization has to roll those dice with a new coach IMO.
 
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I think the most likely is Wheeler buying into a reduced role. There has never been anything to suggest he won't take on whatever role he is asked to take on, irrespective of the active imaginations of some.

If Blake moves I could see it at the 23-24 trade deadline if we are out of the playoffs. He might want a shot at a cup. I could see Blake hanging them up after this contract is up.

Time will tell
 

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If Blake moves I could see it at the 23-24 trade deadline if we are out of the playoffs. He might want a shot at a cup. I could see Blake hanging them up after this contract is up.

Time will tell
Agreed. Wheeler only moves on his terms. Not sure if he rides it out after his contract is over like Stastny and others on a year by year bases.
 

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Armchair GMs do not know what goes on in the dressing room.
But lets say Wheeler is the problem ... a good coach can fix it.
No sense in trading Wheeler if the Jets have to retain his contract a good coach would put him on the 3rd line or even make him a healthy scratch to straight him out.
I would hire Quenneville as HC.
 

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I prefer to play Armchair Owner. Any Armchair GM that would keep ScheifMe...

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Agreed. Wheeler only moves on his terms. Not sure if he rides it out after his contract is over like Stastny and others on a year by year bases.

Really hard to say with Blake he is great with money and he is such a family man that he might want to get the kids located to the area they eventually want to settle in. I hear his set up in Florida is spectacular. He will turn 38 the summer his contract expires and that is a hell of a career.
 

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I don't think we see Scheifele traded. Admitted we haven't always seen his best but no player on the team has the overall offensive game he has. With a new coach and him feeling a little less comfortable I think there is the possibility of a dominant season from him. If the Jets hope to contend in the present window the organization has to roll those dice with a new coach IMO.

It's not about talent for me it's about the willingness to buy in and be a part of the team. To do what is asked and play the system as asked and to bust your ass. We have seen little of that from Mark the last few years.

I think in certain situations moving out talent that is unwilling to put in the work and activity goes against the team and system can have a positive impact. You darn well be sure that you sit down with Mark and lay it out to him as I don't feel we can go into such a pivotal year with him doing his own thing again and being a distraction.

This team first and foremost needs to start consistiently playing as a team again and forming an identity. That is stepson for me, step two is flushing out the talent we need around that scheme.
 

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What I would do:

-Give Morrissey the C. He's the only one in that group who has shown actual leadership this year and has essentially been the defacto captain the last couple of months anyhow. No more captain pissy pants infront of the media, given the state of the fanbase having an excuse making, picking fights with the media captain just isn't going to sit well anylonger.

-Sign Dubois to the Hertl deal. 8 years at $8.1 per.

-Reup Stastny 1 year at $3 million

-Trade Dillon for an equivalent physical third line winger with some speed and secondary scoring.

-Inform Wheeler he is no longer the captain and will take a lesser role. If he has an issue with it he can supply his list and be moved out.

-Have a conversation with Mark and lay it out for him. Have the new coach there with management and get a commitment. If he is u willing ship him out.

- inform Lowry that we are moving to a modern setup where three scoring lines will be created and that he will be used in a 3B shut down line. Ice time at 5 on 5 will mire equal among the 4 lines and he will get a mountain of PK time.

Strategy is to play two established skill players with a complimentary piece to round out each line:

Conner Dubois Svech
Perfetti Scheifele Ehlers
Third line acquisition Stastny Wheeler
Barron Lowry Appelton

JoMo DeMelo
Samberg Pionk
Heinola/Stanley Schmidt

Helle
Comrie

The fact is that imo Mark and Blake have had their 5 year window to lead this group and have not succeeded and it's time to move the reigns to other players. If they have an issue with that then too bad.
 
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You are hired as the Jets' GM as soon as this season's Stanley cup is awarded.
What are you going to do to help improve the Jets.
Here's me as the GM...

Re-sign PLD to a 6 to 8 year deal around 7.75m per year.

All coaches are fired including video and goalie coaches.
Hire Julien as HC with a 3 year deal and a club option for the 4th.
Julien picks his assistants.

Re-sign Stastny for a 2 x 2.5m deal.

Retain 2m of Wheeler's contract and trade him.
Let the players vote on the new captain and assistants.
I'd hope for a C for Stastny and As to Morrissey and Lowry.

Trade Dillon, Gawanke, 2022 1st rounder and a 4th rounder for Konecny.

Trade Schmidt for whatever I can get for him.

Re-sign Comrie for about 850k for another season.

Offer Sanford 2 x 2.25m.

Re-sign Svech for 2 or 3 years.

Re-sign Apples for 3 years. (3 x 1.5m?)

Re-sign Gus, Kovs and Hark to 2 year deals.

Our top 6 would be Konecny, PLD, KC, Scheif, Ehlers and Perfetti.

Bottom 6 would be Lowry, Stastny, Svech, Apples, Barron, Hark, and Gus. I'd be looking for a good vet for the bottom 6 like Perron for example.

Our D would consist of JMo, Samberg, Heinola, Stanimal, DD, Pionk, Chisholm and Kovs.
I'd look really hard at improving our right side of the D and moving DD down to play with Heinola and trading Pionk in a deal for someone to play with Morrissey.


KC PLD Konecny
Perfetti Scheif Ehlers
Barron Stastny Svech
Gus/Hark Lowry Apples

JMo DD
Samberg Pionk
Heinola Kovs
Chisholm/Stanley

Helle Comrie (Julien played Thomas 57 games during the regular season the year the Bruins won the cup...just saying)
I like most of that. Except the trade.
Convince me about Konecny.
 

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I don't think we see Scheifele traded. Admitted we haven't always seen his best but no player on the team has the overall offensive game he has. With a new coach and him feeling a little less comfortable I think there is the possibility of a dominant season from him. If the Jets hope to contend in the present window the organization has to roll those dice with a new coach IMO.
Ridiculous to keep a guy around like 55 who chooses when he will give an honest effort and buy into the team system.
 

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I like most of that. Except the trade.
Convince me about Konecny.
Konecny just turned 25 and he plays the game the way it should be played jsut like PLD. He is a great competitor that hates to lose. Plays aggressively and is a great playmaker. We need more guys that play like him. He also plays the 1PP in Philly.

Put him on a line with KC and PLD and he will get you 60 points minimum.
He's making 5.5m for the next 3 seasons so with the 2m retention on Wheeler, you are getting a great RWer (a need) for a cost of 7.5m for 2 years and 5.5m for one year not counting if he re-signs with us. He's better defensively than Wheeler...eye test not sure about fancy stats.

It might be an overpay but some guys (PLD) are worth an overpay.
 
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Lots needs to be done but the first thing i would do is put a coach in place that is a bit of a hardass , it's time. Then i would really try and figure out what's going on with Scheifele, bring him into my office with video of his play this season and when i asked him what's going on and he says "nothing" i play the video and say "come on Mark how do you explain this" .
 

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