Bringer of Jollity
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I'd say, based on the numbers, averaging about 20bgoals a season makes one a "top 6" forward, even if that doesn't seem exciting enough. 15-20 is a middle 6er at worst.
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AintLifeGrand
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Tanner jeannot is a former 20 goal scorer- When he is on his game, he is Middle 6...thats a good comp for you.
He is not and will not be middle 6 again. He happened to go on a blistering s% run and had his career year at a very opportune time. What we’ve seen since is the real Jeannot- 4th line agitator/fighter with a little bit of goal scoring ability. ZLH is a higher skill/higher potential player.
AintLifeGrand
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I agree, I think you misinterpreted my point
You can still be bottom 6/middle 6 and put up 20 goals
Bringer of Jollity
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Hence the "averaging" qualifier. If Jeannot could average 20 goals a season, he would statistically be a top 6 forward, if goal scoring is the deciding metric.
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Porter Stoutheart
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I would love it if we had a "top-9" such that you couldn't really distinguish whether the gritty winger with 20 goals was on your "2nd" or "3rd" line, because on any given night those line designations could flip and hence are meaningless. So I just hope ZLH becomes a solid "middle-6" forward for us, basically. Which I honestly think he will be.
He managed to stay in the lineup most of the time and not get completely benched or demoted despite still being waiver exempt. Most of our recent forward prospects would have been sent down. So even though he got deployed as a 4th-liner basically with low minutes and opportunity, at least they kept him mostly in the lineup. Which bodes well for how much the braintrust actually likes him. It might seem a little counter-intuitive that 4th-line/10mins a night actually represents the braintrust "liking" him. But compared to other guys who got sent to the pressbox or AHL, it really does.
I also think him leading the team in hits/60 (ahead of even Lauzon and Schenn) is something that is probably very highly valued by the braintrust, of course.
He managed to stay in the lineup most of the time and not get completely benched or demoted despite still being waiver exempt. Most of our recent forward prospects would have been sent down. So even though he got deployed as a 4th-liner basically with low minutes and opportunity, at least they kept him mostly in the lineup. Which bodes well for how much the braintrust actually likes him. It might seem a little counter-intuitive that 4th-line/10mins a night actually represents the braintrust "liking" him. But compared to other guys who got sent to the pressbox or AHL, it really does.
I also think him leading the team in hits/60 (ahead of even Lauzon and Schenn) is something that is probably very highly valued by the braintrust, of course.
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I don't think this lineup is at all realistic. Marchand will cost more like $8M, as will Tavares. Even Granlund might approach that number.
So we can't get all those guys.
Plus, the lineup needs more Jonathan Toews and a whole lot less of M. Wood. So much cereal there we really need to be in on that comeback.
It is only a distraction because he is right and BT knows it! Either tow the Trotz line or get booted! Its a 1 way street on Broadway!
I think the final answer is that ZLH is a Trotz type player. Agitator, hits, can play some D, can kill a little penalty, trusted, plays both ends(although haven’t seen much offense yet). He’s on the verge of being a Trotz buddy who gets a pseudo NTC. Forget those Goal/Assist thingys. This is tongue in cheek but think about it. Course I want him to have a breakout but school is really still out on that.
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It would be nice if they were going to hang him out to dry for voicing his displeasure that they go ahead and do it now, while teams are interested in him and have abundant Cap space.
After July 1st, teams will have shopped elsewhere.
Assuming that Bruno is not going to suddenly turn anything around or change his approach in any way (if he was going to, I'd like to think we would have seen that at some point last season!), then Marchessault will probably just remain "disgruntled". But his scoring numbers or the market may be a lot more restrictive than now, thereby lowering his value.
Armourboy
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Trotz will wait til the worst possible time to do it and get next to nothing because of it.
• The Nashville Predators won’t be setting off July 1 fireworks after two consecutive years of adding big names. They want to let their roster settle. They might make a subtle signing or two, but nothing too flashy. The Predators have several players entering the last year of their deals (guys like Michael Bunting, Colton Sissons, Michael McCarron, Jeremy Lauzon) so if they don’t bounce back, they could sell at the March trade deadline, but otherwise it’s about keeping the path open for some of their top prospects.
glenngineer
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Stop keeping the path open and put them on the ice for crying out loud. Keeping a path open is important only if you play the kids, otherwise, it's a waste of a path/space.
BigFatCat999
First Fubu and now Pred303. !@#$! you cancer
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Also important is that March wants to go there.
From what I'm hearing the Trotz plan is to simply run it back this next season. No major changes at all. Continue to nibble around the edges only, which probably translates to waiving a few more young guys and bringing in more waiver wire filler.
In summary, we're apparently going all in after McKenna.
Armourboy
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Yeah I don't see much happening unless someone strikes out in UFA and decides to make Trotz some crazy offers on guys and he just decides out of the blue because of that its a good time to just bite the bullet and redo everything.
The good thing is if he just runs it back I think it probably finally takes out Brunette, and we aren't going anywhere anyways with him as coach.
The good thing is if he just runs it back I think it probably finally takes out Brunette, and we aren't going anywhere anyways with him as coach.
