Speculation: Armchair GM Thread

[herzausstein]

What id like to see happen:
I think we can get another 1st in this draft or 2026. Should trade off lauzon, sissons, and nyquil.

Offseason:
explore what a return for saros would be before his trade protection kicks in. If it is worth it, pull the trigger. Then Explore what it cost to get rid of skjei, stamkos, and/or Marchessault in the offseason. If the price/return is right, go for it. If not, we have tons of capspace and i honestly dont want to go UFA big hunting again with this core.

Next deadline if things go sideways again, look to trade schenn, carrier, and RoR. We cant continue to rely on a near 35 year old ror to be #1C. Get value while you can. Schenn is expiring and Carrier may have some value to someone looking for a 2nd pairing. If not, keep him since we dont really have any good rhd options and trade him next deadline

 

[bdub24]

CHI making a move NSH isn’t prepared to make….

 

[wmupreds]

You never know what GMs will be willing to pay for physicality/hits. I mean Jeannot got an insane return. Lauzon won't get that much.. but I could see a 1st closer to the deadline in the right situation.

I don't trust Trotz to do it though.

 

[Scoresberg]

You never know what GMs will be willing to pay for physicality/hits. I mean Jeannot got an insane return. Lauzon won't get that much.. but I could see a 1st closer to the deadline in the right situation.

I don't trust Trotz to do it though.

Taking into consideration his contract, I could very well see him fetching a 1st especially how weak the defenseman market will be this TDL.

 

[Top 6 Spaling]

Trouba *screams* "Trotz guy" to me. Really hoping we aren't involved in that fiasco, unless it's swapping someone that has negative value on our side on a longer contract.

 

[herzausstein]

Only way i take trouba is if they take skjei. Trouba is just a more expensive schenn with how he has aged.

 

[Roman Yoshi]

At the deadline or before the deadline:

Departures
Sissons
NyQuil
Carrier
Lauzon
Novak
Saros (I said what I said)

Off-season
You tell Stamkos, Skeji, Josi, Marchy and Forsberg "hey guys, shit is going to suck the next three years. Can you get behind that and be a team player or not? If not you better waive now." See if you can get any of them to go without retention. If not, retain on one and start the actual rebuild.

 

[glenngineer]

The telltale sign that kills me is the long stretches every single freaking game we go without getting a shot on net. I have never seen a team do this as consistently as this one.

 

[Bringer of Jollity]

At the deadline or before the deadline:

Departures
Sissons
NyQuil
Carrier
Lauzon
Novak
Saros (I said what I said)

Off-season
You tell Stamkos, Skeji, Josi, Marchy and Forsberg "hey guys, shit is going to suck the next three years. Can you get behind that and be a team player or not? If not you better waive now." See if you can get any of them to go without retention. If not, retain on one and start the actual rebuild.

I am in agreement on the trade Saros before his contract kicks in wagon. We can't take back trading Askarov, but we can avoid handcuffing us to that contract. Go with Anunen and whoever a team will trade us back in a Saros deal (Pickard, etc...) and see what assets we can get back. It might help guys with their decision to waive clauses as well.

 

[herzausstein]

I am in agreement on the trade Saros before his contract kicks in wagon. We can't take back trading Askarov, but we can avoid handcuffing us to that contract. Go with Anunen and whoever a team will trade us back in a Saros deal (Pickard, etc...) and see what assets we can get back. It might help guys with their decision to waive clauses as well.

There are a couple teams that would probably have interest: edmonton, Colorado, to name a couple. Problem is i really dont see anything i want from there that theyd be willing to give up. They have really thin prospect pools. Skinner or Georgiev would come back and i guess those arent terrible contracts

 

[Armourboy]

There are a couple teams that would probably have interest: edmonton, Colorado, to name a couple. Problem is i really dont see anything i want from there that theyd be willing to give up. They have really thin prospect pools. Skinner or Georgiev would come back and i guess those arent terrible contracts

At this point it would be like the Ellis contract, the win is not being stuck with it. Whatever else you get is just a bonus.

 

[herzausstein]

At this point it would be like the Ellis contract, the win is not being stuck with it. Whatever else you get is just a bonus.

Saros is actually playing quite well. If the offense wasnt such crap, wed actually have double digit wins. I do believe that his contract will age like milk and this team likely wont be relevant during the period he is good so trading him does make sense. I just feel that we should get something worthwhile out of it.

 

[BigFatCat999]

So I made the mistake of going on X or whatever the hell it’s called. Someone hinted that the preds think the solution to the problems is Jacob Trouba.

Shoot me, shoot me in the face, shoot me in the face with a high caliber weapon

 

[Viqsi]

Another one is Nyquist. His production is back down to reality. Maybe with 50% retention we can get a good return for him too.

I'd like to believe there'd be interest in him up here. But at this point I have no idea if Waddell would have any interest or if Trotz would consider it at all.

 

[herzausstein]

I'd like to believe there'd be interest in him up here. But at this point I have no idea if Waddell would have any interest or if Trotz would consider it at all.

Nyquist retained for fabbro. Do it for the lulz

 

[Viqsi]

Nyquist retained for fabbro. Do it for the lulz

I'm pretty sure Dante's going to stay up here.

 

[herzausstein]

I'm pretty sure Dante's going to stay up here.

You can have him back after Trotz waives him again.

 

[Viqsi]

You can have him back after Trotz waives him again.

Too late; he's already shown what he can do here. Other folks would be lining up to claim him first.

 

[Bringer of Jollity]

So I made the mistake of going on X or whatever the hell it’s called. Someone hinted that the preds think the solution to the problems is Jacob Trouba.

Shoot me, shoot me in the face, shoot me in the face with a high caliber weapon

Exactly what we need is another washed vet with a NTC. He's Luke Schenn but making 4 times the salary.

 

[herzausstein]

So I made the mistake of going on X or whatever the hell it’s called. Someone hinted that the preds think the solution to the problems is Jacob Trouba.

Shoot me, shoot me in the face, shoot me in the face with a high caliber weapon

That had to be tongue firmly in cheek.

 

[DingDongCharlie]

I am in agreement on the trade Saros before his contract kicks in wagon. We can't take back trading Askarov, but we can avoid handcuffing us to that contract. Go with Anunen and whoever a team will trade us back in a Saros deal (Pickard, etc...) and see what assets we can get back. It might help guys with their decision to waive clauses as well.

What's a realistic deal for Edmonton and Nashville look like for Saros?

Cap wise from our end, in my opinion it would have to be Stu Skinner and his 2.6m heading back. Stu has 1 more year on his deal. We'd both need Pickard and his cheap cap hit this season and more so next if picking up the Saros contract. We also need to consider on our end, the dollars in dollars out situation were in. Does Nashville care about cap dumps if they are expiring deals?

My thought is,

Edm 2026 1st
B level prospect
Stu Skinner 2.6m (1 year remaining)
*Jeff Skinner 3m (expiring contract) - cap dump - trade/waive at deadline to any club that wants him

*Has a nmc so wishful thinking on my end

Just wondering if this is a workable deal?

 

[Bringer of Jollity]

What's a realistic deal for Edmonton and Nashville look like for Saros?

Cap wise from our end, in my opinion it would have to be Stu Skinner and his 2.6m heading back. Stu has 1 more year on his deal. We'd both need Pickard and his cheap cap hit this season and more so next if picking up the Saros contract. We also need to consider on our end, the dollars in dollars out situation were in. Does Nashville care about cap dumps if they are expiring deals?

My thought is,

Edm 2026 1st
B level prospect
Stu Skinner 2.6m (1 year remaining)
*Jeff Skinner 3m (expiring contract) - cap dump - trade/waive at deadline to any club that wants him

*Has a nmc so wishful thinking on my end

Just wondering if this is a workable deal?

Just a (probably late) 1st and a B prospect feels low. I'd probably want something slightly better quality than either but I don't think the Oilers have that left.

 

[DingDongCharlie]

Just a (probably late) 1st and a B prospect feels low. I'd probably want something slightly better quality than either but I don't think the Oilers have that left.

That's fair. We only really have 2 non B prospects and neither are blue-chippers. Oilers valued Sam Reilly above the 2025 1st. So least in their estimation perhaps he'd count above the 2026 1st to Nashville also? If we had to go our best prospect and our 2026 1st we'd probably be out at that point though.

 

[wmupreds]

Just a (probably late) 1st and a B prospect feels low. I'd probably want something slightly better quality than either but I don't think the Oilers have that left.

To get out of the long term commitment to Saros, that might be worth it. Unfortunately Trotz has backed himself into a situation where (a) there isn't a clear successor anymore, (b) having Saros on a long term, relatively high dollar deal isn't really beneficial to the franchise because by the time this theoretically gets cleaned up he'll be declining and (c) his new deal hinders his trade value. That's what some were worried about when the discussion was going on around whether to trade or sign him.

 

[beardawg]

0% chance Saros is on the table