Speculation: Armchair GM Thread III: Post Deadline, Now with more armchairing

[Deen]

And who might be floating that idea around? I'm not sure about that. Laine doesn't bring the intangibles that Tkachuk does.

I'm floating that idea. I think it is a good one too.

 

[Mobiandi]

I bet Laine could score 50 with Gaudreau but it would be short-lived if the latter bolts east. Tkachuk's just far more of a complete player

 

[Deen]

I bet Laine could score 50 with Gaudreau but it would be short-lived if the latter bolts east. Tkachuk's just far more of a complete player

Does it really matter if Gaudreau leaves eventually? I don't want to pick 9th or 10th. Let's go for positional need so we can win one in our window.

 

[Johnny Hoxville]

Laine and Connor for Gaudreau and Brodie. Not dealing Tkachuk.

 

[InfinityIggy]

Wouldnt trade Tkachuk for Laine. Furthermore I would be very skeptical of sinking big money into Laine at this point. Guy seems to be more concerned with Fortnite than hockey.

 

[InfinityIggy]

Laine and Connor for Gaudreau and Brodie. Not dealing Tkachuk.

This is bad.

 

[Nanuuk]

Trading Chucky for Laine would be a gut wrenching decision. Will either drop off after a good three years? Will Laine be another OV? Will Tkachuk be the premiere power forward?

 

[Lunatik]

Warming up to the idea of Tkachuk for Laine.

You've clearly been in the sun for an unhealthy amount of time then

 

[Lunatik]

I'm floating that idea. I think it is a good one too.

It is definitely an idea, but it is not even in the same galaxy as a good idea.

 

[Lunatik]

Sure maybe Laine could score 50, but at what cost?
- the defensive ability of the line takes a MASSIVE hit.
- Gaudreau and Monahan would each see goal totals drop and likely wouldn't get any more points.=, in fact I think they get less.
- We would draw significantly fewer PPs
- We would lose Tkachuk's 40+ assists.

Trading a good all around player that scored 34 goals and 77 points in 80 games for a 1 dimensional winger that hurts your team when not scoring is among the stupidest things a GM could do. Especially when said one dimensional winger is sulking about his ice-time and causing a rift in the locker room.

Trading Tkachuk would have been akin to trading Iginla for Jeff O'Neal

 

[Deen]

Sure maybe Laine could score 50, but at what cost?
- the defensive ability of the line takes a MASSIVE hit.
- Gaudreau and Monahan would each see goal totals drop and likely wouldn't get any more points.=, in fact I think they get less.
- We would draw significantly fewer PPs
- We would lose Tkachuk's 40+ assists.

Trading a good all around player that scored 34 goals and 77 points in 80 games for a 1 dimensional winger that hurts your team when not scoring is among the stupidest things a GM could do. Especially when said one dimensional winger is sulking about his ice-time and causing a rift in the locker room.

Trading Tkachuk would have been akin to trading Iginla for Jeff O'Neal

1, Backlund has been covering that line and Lindholm can play down.
2. Less goals per player doesn't mean less success.
3. Laine draws penalties too
4. Laine has goal scoring upside
5. Big RW with a big Right hand Shot.

 

[super6646]

When is Tkachuk signing ffs...

 

[FerklundCGY]

Anyone suggesting or in favor of trading Tkachuk for Laine is clearly an undercover Jets fan and needs to go over to their board

 

[Lunatik]

1, Backlund has been covering that line and Lindholm can play down.
2. Less goals per player doesn't mean less success.
3. Laine draws penalties too
4. Laine has goal scoring upside
5. Big RW with a big Right hand Shot.

1. I was referring to the defensive play n the top line, because they lose Lindholm and Laine's defensive ability is somewhere akin to a pylon.
2. You are right, less goals doesn't mean less success. But when you add less PPs, lesser defensive play, less leadership... etc you can't afford less goals too.
3. Sure, everyone draws some, but Laine draws nowhere near as many as Chucky
4. Tkachuk outscored Laine this year. Laine doesn't gain us all that many goals and costs us even more.
5. Size doesn't matter when you don't use it. And yes is is RH

Your idea is terrible, accept it and move on.

 

[Deen]

1. I was referring to the defensive play n the top line, because they lose Lindholm and Laine's defensive ability is somewhere akin to a pylon.
2. You are right, less goals doesn't mean less success. But when you add less PPs, lesser defensive play, less leadership... etc you can't afford less goals too.
3. Sure, everyone draws some, but Laine draws nowhere near as many as Chucky
4. Tkachuk outscored Laine this year. Laine doesn't gain us all that many goals and costs us even more.
5. Size doesn't matter when you don't use it. And yes is is RH

Your idea is terrible, accept it and move on.

Oh.

 

[Johnny Hoxville]

This is bad.

For the Jets. Connor is on the verge of becoming a Pastrnak caliber player. He’s younger than Gaudreau, so more team control and he provides similar skills.

 

[InfinityIggy]

For the Jets. Connor is on the verge of becoming a Pastrnak caliber player. He’s younger than Gaudreau, so more team control and he provides similar skills.

Are you just in town for stand up tonight or are you here all week?

 

[Iggys Dome]

ya lets just keep tkachuk for now

 

[CraigsList]

I'd rather just go for Ehlers. Connor and Laine would cost too much.

 

[Johnny Hoxville]

Are you just in town for stand up tonight or are you here all week?

I know some Jets value Connor over Laine, I think he’s likely to get 75-80pts next season. That’s not Gaudreau good, but I’d move Johnny if it landed us Connor and Laine.

 

[Lunatik]

I know some Jets value Connor over Laine, I think he’s likely to get 75-80pts next season. That’s not Gaudreau good, but I’d move Johnny if it landed us Connor and Laine.

No team with Laine will ever be a champion

 

[SKRusty]

Trading Chucky for Laine would be a gut wrenching decision. Will either drop off after a good three years? Will Laine be another OV? Will Tkachuk be the premiere power forward?

Laine to this point is a Kessel like player. Never will be able to lead a team but will score lots of goals.

Chucky is the more complete player on and off the ice. It isn't even close.

The fans here significantly under-rate Chucky and his impact on this Flames team. Chucky is by far the Flames best LW today. 77 points on the second line with the 57th best offensive center in the NHL on the second highest scoring team.

Backs is a defensive god but offensively in the regular season he is at best average offensively.

In contrast to Backs, Chucky put up the 6th best LW numbers despite playing second line minutes. Unlike Gaudreau, Chucky puts up points with any center.

 

[Johnny Hoxville]

No team with Laine will ever be a champion

As their top player I would probably agree. As a complimentary piece, I’m not so sure. A lot said the same thing about Kessel.

Anyways Tkachuk is going nowhere, he certainly won’t be dealt for Laine.

 

[InfinityIggy]

As their top player I would probably agree. As a complimentary piece, I’m not so sure. A lot said the same thing about Kessel.

Anyways Tkachuk is going nowhere, he certainly won’t be dealt for Laine.

Nor will Gaudreau, thankfully.

 

[Mobiandi]

I want Point here, badly