Guys, there is not enough cap room to have Hall on this team unless at least $9-10 mil moves out the door. If you put together a team with remaining Flames contracts, estimate realistically the RFA contracts and have the three spares at the NHL mimimum $750,000 you are coming in around 75 million.
Treliving has $7.8 million tied up in an immovable contract and two buyouts.
If you sign Hall ($8.0-9.0 million), you just need to move Bennett and Ryan and you can still add a Dman and still fit it all in.
Assuming there is actually something to the Johnny rumors.....
Johnny
Lucic
For
Boeser
Sutter
Demko
Maybe package up Sutter with Bennett to Ottawa for a late round pick and bang we have the cash to sign Hall, improve our center depth, plus get a young 1a/1b goalie. The only down side is that Johnny and Pettersson will make our lives miserable for the next 2 years, at least.
You can barf all you like but if we move Johnny, it really doesn't matter where he ends up, it's about the return. Hall, Boeser + Demko, especially without destroying our cap, givesus a better chance to win than Johnny, Bennett + Lucic.Barf. Why we are we attaching out best contract to our worst contract? Recipe for disaster.
I would absolutely lose my freaking mind if Gaudreau ever wore a Canucks sweater.
You can barf all you like but if we move Johnny, it really doesn't matter where he ends up, it's about the return. Hall, Boeser + Demko, especially without destroying our cap, givesus a better chance to win than Johnny, Bennett + Lucic.
That's not totally true. I've done the numbers myself and posted it and you can go back and look, it's literally 1 or 2 pages back. If Hall came in at $8.5 mil and we re-signed our RFA's we could fit him in if we just used league min/ELC's. This scenario had Hamonic and Brodie both walking, thus the ELC d-men.
We could fit him in WITH Brodie if Lucic retired (he won't)/LTIR'd (could happen hopefully).
If Lucic plays like crap this playoff and comes out of the gate like he did this last season he just might... get a permanent "training injury".I think the Flames will be able to buy out Lucic, or he will just retire.
I would be shocked if Valimaki plays a second in the AHL next year. No reason for it, franklyA lot of hope with those numbers....getting Hall for 8.5, Mangi for 1.75 (I think he gets over 2, maybe the Bennett contract of 2.55), a depth chart of Kylington as your #4, Valimaki and Mackey as your 3rd pairing when both need some AHL time and Stone as your reserve. And an inexperienced Zags as the backup.
I disagree, Boeser is a better RW than Johnny and I don't think Hall would even play it. Gaudreau is not nearly as effective on the RW side, we all saw this, this year. While he didn't Backlund suck at RW, he definitely wouldn't be a better option than Boeser. Plus, loading up the top 6 and relying on Rittch is a recipe for disaster.Hall, Gaudreau, and whatever backup we sign is better than the other two mentioned.
I disagree, Boeser is a better RW than Johnny and I don't think Hall would even play it. Gaudreau is not nearly as effective on the RW side, we all saw this, this year. While he didn't Backlund suck at RW, he definitely wouldn't be a better option than Boeser. Plus, loading up the top 6 and relying on Rittch is a recipe for disaster.
In a down year Gaudreau still had a better points per game than Boeser. That's with Boeser riding shotgun to a player better than any we have with Gaudreau gone, and his stats away from Petterson drop like a rock. He's a good complimentary player but I don't care if Johnny is playing center he's still a better player than Brock Boeser.
You know Boeser's best year is when Pettersson wasn't on the team right?
I would be shocked if Valimaki plays a second in the AHL next year. No reason for it, frankly
Definitely wouldn’t hurt, no. But I believe he will already be skating in Phase 3, no? Plus all offseason until October/November/whenever the season starts. More than enough time to get in shape.You're probably not wrong, but it wouldn't surprise me based only on the fact he's missed so much time, a conditioning stint so to speak wouldn't hurt.
You're probably not wrong, but it wouldn't surprise me based only on the fact he's missed so much time, a conditioning stint so to speak wouldn't hurt.
Definitely wouldn’t hurt, no. But I believe he will already be skating in Phase 3, no? Plus all offseason until October/November/whenever the season starts. More than enough time to get in shape.
I think we are going to shuffle a few forwards for inexpensive but reasonable quality dmen. Like, the Jankowski/Bennett etc. guys for some inexpensive vets of the Forbort ilk etc.
On a side note, Hamonic is sitting out. I am unsure of what that means long term... I can't help but think he might actually take less to keep playing for the Flames (ie: 3x3//3.5x3 dman contract), but no clue.