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Speculation: Armchair GM 2024-25 Season, Craig Conroy's Can Do Calgary Flames

Figgy44

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This.
Just do what Calgary did, where Lindholm played RW at forward and then covered up for Monahan in the defensive zone. He should still be able to get that done.
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Something like a Swiss army knife deployment like Frolik is probably the best for the remainder of his career. I don't think he will do well as the only centre on his line going forward.
 
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Appreciate the feedback. I really hope he gets his game going. Bruins fans were really hoping that last year was an outlier and he'd get back to being a 60 point center this season but he's a non-factor. His assists are secondary or face-offs. It seems like forcing him on the first PP is hurting that unit... I don't know if he's a slow starter or if there's going to be some moment where it clicks for him, but man that contract is looking really scary right now.
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Not to rub it in but Lindholm and Zadorov were high on my do not re-sign list for the Flames. I wouldn't have minded if they kept Hanifin and flipped Andersson though.
 

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Ledge And Dairy said:
It's not his fault the world shut down, he almost certainly would have played the whole season in both of those years.
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Sure, and every player dealt with that. And if we didn't have the 04-05 lockout, and the 2012 half-season, (hell maybe even just one of those happening instead of both) Ovi would likely have already passed Gretzky in goals scored.

Again, the potential was absolutely there, but the reality of it, is he hasn't hit that to any consistent extent. And 7.75 mil a year is a LOT to pay for someone who struggles to hit 55-60 points without elite players around him. As it stands, in similar games (Lindholm has played 1 more game), he wouldn't even crack our top 5 point-scorers. How mad would we be if we were paying Zary almost 8 mil a year (who is currently outperforming Lindholm with less minutes)
 
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If all or part of the ducks plan is to beat their opponents into submission... I'm all for it. I think we have enough guns to get pulled into that type of fight? I'm not sure other hockey fans are ready for this type of entertainment though.
 

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Sure, and every player dealt with that. And if we didn't have the 04-05 lockout, and the 2012 half-season, (hell maybe even just one of those happening instead of both) Ovi would likely have already passed Gretzky in goals scored.

Again, the potential was absolutely there, but the reality of it, is he hasn't hit that to any consistent extent. And 7.75 mil a year is a LOT to pay for someone who struggles to hit 55-60 points without elite players around him. As it stands, in similar games (Lindholm has played 1 more game), he wouldn't even crack our top 5 point-scorers. How mad would we be if we were paying Zary almost 8 mil a year (who is currently outperforming Lindholm with less minutes)
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If you want consistency, you could just use his entire tenure as a Flame where he had 357 points in 418 games. That works out to 70 points per 82 games.

The real irony is you don’t believe in pace only what they achieved, but then call him a 45-50 player despite his actual totals only being that low once across his 5 full seasons here (it was the year it was a 56 games season). By your logic, would you say he had to be well above a point per game player that year for you to consider him a 60 point guy?

Edit: Actually going to come at this from a different angle. If you believe his shortened seasons paces don’t prove anything, wouldn’t it make more sense to omit them entirely and judge based off his full seasons then? Then you’d be left a 78 point season, an 82 point season, and a 64 point season. Whenever he’s actually played a full year with Calgary he blew your assessment out of the water.
 
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Khrox said:
Sure, and every player dealt with that. And if we didn't have the 04-05 lockout, and the 2012 half-season, (hell maybe even just one of those happening instead of both) Ovi would likely have already passed Gretzky in goals scored.

Again, the potential was absolutely there, but the reality of it, is he hasn't hit that to any consistent extent. And 7.75 mil a year is a LOT to pay for someone who struggles to hit 55-60 points without elite players around him. As it stands, in similar games (Lindholm has played 1 more game), he wouldn't even crack our top 5 point-scorers. How mad would we be if we were paying Zary almost 8 mil a year (who is currently outperforming Lindholm with less minutes)
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Weird argument considering I'm hoping we can get Zary locked up to a deal like that this summer
 
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Not to rub it in but Lindholm and Zadorov were high on my do not re-sign list for the Flames. I wouldn't have minded if they kept Hanifin and flipped Andersson though.
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Zadorov has actually been pretty good. He’s been our #2 or #3 guy most nights. Physical, killing penalties, good even strength numbers… Took a lot of needless penalties early but it hasn’t been an issue in awhile.

Lindholm on the hand…
 
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Tkachuk Norris said:
If we are trading Rasmus there has to be a C prospect coming back. Otherwise no. No point really.

Cal Ritchie, Konsta Helenius, that kind of prospect needs to be coming back.
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What about a top 10 pick to draft a C this draft? Who are the guys around 8-10 who might be available that might excite you?
 
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What about a top 10 pick to draft a C this draft? Who are the guys around 8-10 who might be available that might excite you?
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Top four looks like Misa (C), Hagens (C), Martone(W) , Schaefer (LD)

Then Frondell (E Lindholm), McQueen (Jeff Carter) and Desnoyers (Sean Couturier) will be in the top 10 picks and all play C. I like them all a lot but more likely 2C guys.

Rounding out the top 10 is likely a combo of Eklund(W), Hensler (D), J Smith(D), Bear (W/C) and Spence (W)
 
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Top four looks like Misa (C), Hagens (C), Martone(W) , Schaefer (LD)

Then Frondell (E Lindholm), McQueen (Jeff Carter) and Desnoyers (Sean Couturier) will be in the top 10 picks and all play C. I like them all a lot but more likely 2C guys.

Rounding out the top 10 is likely a combo of Eklund(W), Hensler (D), J Smith(D), Bear (W/C) and Spence (W)
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We already have Misa as our future #1C :sarcasm:
 

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The ideal picks in order for me is Hagens, Misa, McQueen. If we end up with any of those 3, I'm gonna be happy
 
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