Speculation: Armchair GM 2024-25 Season, Craig Conroy's Can Do Calgary Flames

[FLAMESFAN]

Then why couldn't we have made a package for Nemec last year? Although I like Jiricek's snarl a bit more

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

Then why couldn't we have made a package for Nemec last year? Although I like Jiricek's snarl a bit more

Because he was never available? With the Dougie injury he was playing over 20 minutes a night last year

 

[Body Checker]

It was teams like Minnesota that had the shot at Jiricek as their 1sts are not expected to be top 10; no team that might draft top 10 in 2025 is trading that for Jiricek.

 

[Body Checker]

With rumor that Pelletier and Duehr coming up I think on Tuesday we will see a Lomberg-Rooney-Duehr 4th line…..Pelletier/Barrie/Bean as spares…..Kirkland/Mantha on IR

 

[Some Other Flame]

No point calling up Pelletier to be a healthy scratch. He'll either play on the 4th line or higher with someone else (e.g. Kuzmenko) getting scratched.

 

[Mobiandi]

Kuzmenko playing his way into cap dump territory again is really annoying

 

[Lunatik]

Kuzmenko playing his way into cap dump territory again is really annoying

He's a poor man's Kristian "useless" Huselius

 

[Lunatik]

No point calling up Pelletier to be a healthy scratch. He'll either play on the 4th line or higher with someone else (e.g. Kuzmenko) getting scratched.

I'd scratch Kuz.

Hubby - Zary - Pickles
Pelts - Backs - Coronato
Rango - Kadri - Popsicle
Lombo - Rooney - Duehr/Klapka

 

[Figgy44]

Kuzmenko playing his way into cap dump territory again is really annoying

I think something isn't right with him and I mean that in a sports psychologist, mental health kind of way. I also hope he figure it out. Earlier in the season I seem to recall watching a post game interview of him and he seemed so down. Like Ben Affleck melted face interview level down.

I hope whatever can cheer him up and make him play with some confidence returns.

 

[Volica]

Sucks that Kuzy wasn't able to put it together to help us get a bit of value out of him.
It would have been nice to get another 3-4-5th rounder, but at this point it looks like he'll ride out into the sunset and go find a new home in Russia next season.

 

[Tkachuk Norris]

Scratch him. He just needs to simplify his game. Skate hard and shoot the puck. He’s been way too fancy all season. When you try to be fancy, and have no confidence this is the result.

 

[joescores]

Scratch and then keep him with Zary- our most dangerous man. Hopefully he works his shit out and will start producing so we can ship him for an asset at TDL. If not, we are really forced to give him Martha's designed 1 year "prove it" deal but for 1.5 mil max.

 

[Bounces R Way]

 

[Lunatik]

smart move sending Klapper down IMO

 

[Bjornar Moxnes]

Watching Carolina and Florida…..our top 3 centers could currently be Necas, Monohan, Backlund, still have our 2025 1st, no Huberdeau contract……..downside is no Weegar and no Florida 2025 1st

Wed also have canes first and a prospect like Morrow or Nikishin.

 

[Volica]

Wed also have canes first and a prospect like Morrow or Nikishin.

Hindsight is always 20/20.
Who could've predicted Huberdeau turning into an actual pumpkin the second he was traded here.

That said, I blame Treliving here big time. He had the opportunity to hit a quick reset rebuild on this club in which we'd probably already be starting to move into that bubble window. The issue with GMs that have long tenures is they rarely look at down the road, and they're very much 'win now, keep my job'.

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

Hindsight is always 20/20.
Who could've predicted Huberdeau turning into an actual pumpkin the second he was traded here.

That said, I blame Treliving here big time. He had the opportunity to hit a quick reset rebuild on this club in which we'd probably already be starting to move into that bubble window. The issue with GMs that have long tenures is they rarely look at down the road, and they're very much 'win now, keep my job'.

I don't think you are putting enough blame on ownership here. It's pretty well known that they constantly meddled in Tre's affairs.

 

[Flames Fanatic]

Hindsight is always 20/20.
Who could've predicted Huberdeau turning into an actual pumpkin the second he was traded here.

That said, I blame Treliving here big time. He had the opportunity to hit a quick reset rebuild on this club in which we'd probably already be starting to move into that bubble window. The issue with GMs that have long tenures is they rarely look at down the road, and they're very much 'win now, keep my job'.

Not to say that Tre is without blame, but if you think ownership would have okayed a rebuild at that point...

 

[Mobiandi]

Treliving should not have been allowed to make a move of that size without a contract extension

 

[DomBarr]

Hindsight is always 20/20.
Who could've predicted Huberdeau turning into an actual pumpkin the second he was traded here.

That said, I blame Treliving here big time. He had the opportunity to hit a quick reset rebuild on this club in which we'd probably already be starting to move into that bubble window. The issue with GMs that have long tenures is they rarely look at down the road, and they're very much 'win now, keep my job'.

it was said at the time that Treliving took ownership 2 offers 1) was a get young and retool focused on Necas and 2) a compete now highlighting Huberdeau as the return and it was ownership that chose Huberdeau and to try and compete now.

My feeling was always that the Florida deal was actually the best one but instead of extending they needed to flip Huberdeau and possibly Weegar as pending UFA's

 

[Figgy44]

it was said at the time that Treliving took ownership 2 offers 1) was a get young and retool focused on Necas and 2) a compete now highlighting Huberdeau as the return and it was ownership that chose Huberdeau and to try and compete now.

My feeling was always that the Florida deal was actually the best one but instead of extending they needed to flip Huberdeau and possibly Weegar as pending UFA's

Yeah, based on the rumors, the Florida was significantly more value, but the value dropped the moment the extensions were signed. Weegar has recovered more than the drop in value. Huberdeau, not so much.

Trading to Florida and then flipping Weegar/Huberdeau/Schwindt would have probably been higher raw value than the Necas +1st rumored deal. So I also agree with you about the latter half that Florida + flipping would have been the best deal for Calgary (vs Necas deal or extending).

 

[Ace Rimmer]

This is the first I have heard about a rumour involving Necas. (I always thought it was Lundell in the "rebuild" plan)

My disappointment is immeasurable, and my day is ruined.

I get it though, at the time he was a 22 year old 40 point centre. Wait, no, that's a good thing.

 

[Lunatik]

This is the first I have heard about a rumour involving Necas. (I always thought it was Lundell in the "rebuild" plan)

My disappointment is immeasurable, and my day is ruined.

I get it though, at the time he was a 22 year old 40 point centre. Wait, no, that's a good thing.

first I've heard of it too, which likely means it wasn't exactly from a reputable source.

 

[Flames Fanatic]

first I've heard of it too, which likely means it wasn't exactly from a reputable source.

Pierre Lebrun:

"As I reported back in September, I believe the final three teams in the mix on Tkachuk were St. Louis, Carolina and Florida. And after making more calls, it’s apparent that the Hurricanes’ potential package — which I believe included Martin Necas — was runner-up, although it was still generally more of a futures deal, which is why the Florida package always made more sense for a Calgary team trying to win now."

 

[Lunatik]

Pierre Lebrun:

"As I reported back in September, I believe the final three teams in the mix on Tkachuk were St. Louis, Carolina and Florida. And after making more calls, it’s apparent that the Hurricanes’ potential package — which I believe included Martin Necas — was runner-up, although it was still generally more of a futures deal, which is why the Florida package always made more sense for a Calgary team trying to win now."

Huh, surprised I missed that.