Speculation: Armchair GM 2024-25 Season, Craig Conroy's Can Do Calgary Flames

[Ace Rimmer]

Report: Flames have no interest in trading Andersson

The Calgary Flames don't want to trade defenseman Rasmus Andersson before the March 7 trade deadline and are confused about teams inquiring about his availability, TSN's Pierre LeBrun reported on "Insider Trading."Andersson is under contract through next season at a bargain $4.5-million cap hit...

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The Calgary Flames don't want to trade defenseman Rasmus Andersson before the March 7 trade deadline and are confused about teams inquiring about his availability, TSN's Pierre LeBrun reported on "Insider Trading."

 

[Lunatik]

But... why would be need a #6 back?

Other teams might need a guy for that price point and capabilities for injuries/reserve for a run. We'd open up that slot and use Barrie as the reserve this season and perhaps someone like Brewski next season.

Or do you mean we'd need someone to replace Miromanov if we decide to go for a playoff run?

My point was Miro has no value and the only way a team would trade for him is for a similar level defenseman (or forward) to save cap space.

 

[MakeCgyGreatAgain]

I think Ras will be sticking around until the summer at least. Personally if we got a package that included Yager/Lambert or Mav Bourque I think you have to make that trade this year. We need a top line centre in the worst way and Ras would be the only way to trade for one. I’m not signing him to an 8 year deal and that’s likely what he’s expecting to sign. So it’s likely he’s traded next season.

 

[Volica]

Miro and Kuz have literally no value.
I don’t think you could trade Kuzy based on the contract.

 

[Mobiandi]

Jarry on waivers. Do the Pens want Vladar?

 

[Figgy44]

Jarry on waivers. Do the Pens want Vladar?

And then... what for goalie? Take Jarry? Or just run with Wolf/Cooley?

 

[Figgy44]

Miro and Kuz have literally no value.
I don’t think you could trade Kuzy based on the contract.

Depends what we're swapping for bad contract for bad contract or swap and open up cap space? Oilers for instance might consider a Jeff Skinner/Kuzy at 50% swap to open up a little cap. Get a late pick for the cap space. Not sure if we want to do so though... so just wondering if there's other ideas like that that could benefit the players and both teams.

 

[Kahvi]

Cooley needs to stay in the AHL. It’s a good thing for the development of the younger guys that they can play with a good goalie instead of worrying too much.

 

[Lunatik]

Cooley needs to stay in the AHL. It’s a good thing for the development of the younger guys that they can play with a good goalie instead of worrying too much.

Pretty sure Cooley is injured as well, was pulled after 40 on Friday night (which wasn't odd since he was getting lit up), but he hasn't dressed in the 2 games since

 

[Kahvi]

Pretty sure Cooley is injured, was pulled after 40 on Friday night (which wasn't odd since he was getting lit up), but he hasn't dressed in the 2 games since

Ok, didnt know that. I was more commenting on the posts saying or implying Vladar should be traded, which would most likely mean Cooley in the NHL.

 

[Lunatik]

Ok, didnt know that. I was more commenting on the posts saying or implying Vladar should be traded, which would most likely mean Cooley in the NHL.

I know, I was just adding more info that makes a trade of Vladar less likely. Although, I'd take on Jarry if they Pens gave u a decent asset or 2. I don't think he's irreparably broken

 

[Ace Rimmer]

Report: Flames among teams to contact Sabres about Cozens

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The Calgary Flames are among a long list of clubs that have checked in with the Buffalo Sabres about center Dylan Cozens, reports The Athletic's Pierre LeBrun.

Calgary continues to explore the trade market for right-shot centers aged 25 or younger, LeBrun adds.

 

[Volica]

Report: Flames among teams to contact Sabres about Cozens

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I’ve thought Cozens was a fit here for a long time.

Just don’t think Calgary has the tangible assets. Wouldn’t be surprised to see Krebs here for a second rounder or something next month though.

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

All this talk about whether Ras will stay or not is so silly. As of today we are in a playoff spot, and we know he likes being a Flame. A month from now that could completely change, until we are pretty clearly out of the race (if at all) he's simply not going to be moved and discussing otherwise is pointless.

Sure we beat Chicago, but I think the loss of Zary is going to really show over the next little while and in February we will know what this team is and where they stand. Right now everywhere from playoffs to drafting as high as high as 5th OA is well within reach.

 

[Mobiandi]

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A very appropriate target. Contract seems inflated right now and the fanbase is very disappointed in him. I'd do it.

And then... what for goalie? Take Jarry? Or just run with Wolf/Cooley?

I'd take Jarry. He's not that bad and if they added a sweetener, I think it would make sense to buy low. Pens goalies flame out once they're a few years into their careers. Really weird.

 

[Lunatik]

A very appropriate target. Contract seems inflated right now and the fanbase is very disappointed in him. I'd do it.

Cozens and Norris both make a lot of sense.

I'd take Jarry. He's not that bad and if they added a sweetener, I think it would make sense to buy low. Pens goalies flame out once they're a few years into their careers. Really weird.

Vladar and Kuzmenko for Jarry @ 50 and a 2nd in 2026. With Jarry still being owed 6.5m in signing bonuses, it'd be a shitty buyout for them, this saves them cap space compared to a buyout in 2 of teh next 3 years, as well as the cap penalty of about 800k per in years 4-6. Pens save 5-6l in actual dollars too.

 

[Khrox]

Pens goalies flame out once they're a few years into their careers. Really weird.

Meanwhile Washington is a god damn Goalie factory. Holtby, Grubauer, Neuvirth, Varlamov, Samsonov, Vanacek

As well as taking risks on guys like Thompson and Lindgren (not drafted by them, but definitely either very early in their careers like Thompson, or first real chance at a significant role like Lindgren who has 131 career games over 9 years, and 102 of them have been with Washington over the last 3).

 

[Bounces R Way]

Jarry is awful and is signed for another 3 seasons after this one. Would take a lot to make me consider taking that on. Not really too big on Cozens or Norris either but I guess if the price is right I could be talked into it. Both have tons of term left too.

I think at this stage of the rebuild with some of the money we already have on our cap flexibility is key. We could tie ourselves to one other big contract right now and probably be fine. But money has a way of running out real quick when you need it.

 

[Tkachuk Norris]

Trade Ras for Cal Ritchie. No way do I think he’s a 8.5-9 million dollar player. Time to be progressive for once and not try to compete for a 9th or 8th place finish and lock ourselves into mediocrity for another decade. A few savvy moves and this team could be positioned really well.
Move Kadri+(maybe the plus is retention) for Cozens. Team in a couple years:

Huberdeau-Ritchie-Coronato
Honzek-Zary-Sharangovich
Prospect-Cozens-prospect
Prospect-Backlund-Pelletier

Prospects being some combo of: Stromgren, Kerins, Suniev, Basha, Gridin, Misa, Battaglia whoever else we draft/trade/sign in the next few years.

Bahl-Weegar
Prospect-Parekh
Prospect-Brusztewicz
Prospect

Prospects being some combo of: Solo, Kuznetsov, Mews, Morin + whoever else we draft/trade for.

This has been a fun season but we can’t go deluding ourselves into thinking this is anything more than a bubble team as currently constructed.

 

[MakeCgyGreatAgain]

Trade Ras for Cal Ritchie. No way do I think he’s a 8.5-9 million dollar player. Time to be progressive for once and not try to compete for a 9th or 8th place finish and lock ourselves into mediocrity for another decade. A few savvy moves and this team could be positioned really well.
Move Kadri+(maybe the plus is retention) for Cozens. Team in a couple years:

Huberdeau-Ritchie-Coronato
Honzek-Zary-Sharangovich
Prospect-Cozens-prospect
Prospect-Backlund-Pelletier

Prospects being some combo of: Stromgren, Kerins, Suniev, Basha, Gridin, Misa, Battaglia whoever else we draft/trade/sign in the next few years.

Bahl-Weegar
Prospect-Parekh
Prospect-Brusztewicz
Prospect

Prospects being some combo of: Solo, Kuznetsov, Mews, Morin + whoever else we draft/trade for.

This has been a fun season but we can’t go deluding ourselves into thinking this is anything more than a bubble team as currently constructed.

Not very realistic to think Buffalo would take Kadri. Kadri has a NMC too and I can almost guarantee Buffalo is a no go for him. Colorado is really high on Cal as well. They’ve shut down talks any time other GMs have asked about him. It’s easy to make those trades in NHL25. But not gunna happen in RL.

 

[Volica]

Jarry is awful and is signed for another 3 seasons after this one. Would take a lot to make me consider taking that on. Not really too big on Cozens or Norris either but I guess if the price is right I could be talked into it. Both have tons of term left too.

I think at this stage of the rebuild with some of the money we already have on our cap flexibility is key. We could tie ourselves to one other big contract right now and probably be fine. But money has a way of running out real quick when you need it.

The only way I look at Jarry is if Pittsburgh is willing to do something absolutely stupid to make it happen.
Like if they attached an unconditional first to him. Then may as well have an overpaid backup for 3 years while also getting a chance at a lotto pick!

 

[Figgy44]

Meanwhile Washington is a god damn Goalie factory. Holtby, Grubauer, Neuvirth, Varlamov, Samsonov, Vanacek

As well as taking risks on guys like Thompson and Lindgren (not drafted by them, but definitely either very early in their careers like Thompson, or first real chance at a significant role like Lindgren who has 131 career games over 9 years, and 102 of them have been with Washington over the last 3).

A lot of that was Mitch Korn. I've been saying for a while, getting the best goalie coaches is potentially worth more than a superstar. Ian Clark was the same for his work in Columbus and Vancouver. He's the guy who revived Markstrom and helped to develop a ton of guys in their pipeline.

Not very realistic to think Buffalo would take Kadri. Kadri has a NMC too and I can almost guarantee Buffalo is a no go for him. Colorado is really high on Cal as well. They’ve shut down talks any time other GMs have asked about him. It’s easy to make those trades in NHL25. But not gunna happen in RL.

Buffalo might not take Kadri, but I assume Kadri might consider Buffalo. I do think he has interest to be closer to home in Toronto.

 

[Figgy44]

I am loathe to copy the Oilers, but let's say there's concerns about contracts from both sides. Would signing our 3 guys to identical 6 x 6 be a good idea/feel fair for everyone? (Wolf, Zary and Coronato).

 

[Figgy44]

Looking at that 2019 draft and how random it was, I can't help but think we hit the best possible hit possible for the picks we had. We hit on Pelletier and Wolf with little other options immediately after those picks that would have been superior IMO. We didn't hit on our 3 mid round picks, but honestly speaking, with who else is succeeding in those rounds, it's pure greed to hope for anything else over the calibre of player we got in Wolf in the 7th. That's a draft that in hindsight you'd trade all those picks you used and more to get a player you hit on.

 

[Volica]

Kakko would be second in PPG only behind Jonathan Huberdeau (literally by a couple percent) since he joined the Kraken. Man, my narrative is out of control.

Still miffed the team missed on that one. I think NY really liked the depth Dman they got.

I don’t think Razzy is the difference between us being bottom 5 or 15th in the league. At this point it’s just Wolf. Like. It’s just Dustin Wolf guys. Without him playing this team is playing at a 69 (nice) point pace which would have us in the bottom 5. Unless wolf regresses or gets injured, this is sort of where we are folks. Team needs to get really creative and find some young forward help. Hence my disappointment with missing out on a ex-lotto pick for scraps.