Speculation: Armchair GM 2023-24 Season. If we can't say "Rebuild" what do we call it?

[MakeCgyGreatAgain]

Zegras probably costs us Andersson.

 

[Bond]

Zegras probably costs us Andersson.

I'd do that. Would really help the Flames get into bottom three territory

 

[User1996]

I'd do that. Would really help the Flames get into bottom three territory

Had me in the first half, not going to lie.

 

[Potty John]

Wonder if the acquisition of Bahl means that Shilly might be walking to FA

 

[Lunatik]

Wonder if the acquisition of Bahl means that Shilly might be walking to FA

they are VERY different defensemen, and might actually look good paired together

 

[Backlund]

Wonder if the acquisition of Bahl means that Shilly might be walking to FA

Might not have anything to do with eachother. We still need defenseman even if Kylington does stay.

Edit: typo

 

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they are VERY different defensemen, and might actually look good paired together

Kylington move to RD?

 

[Lunatik]

Kylington move to RD?

Yeah, he had never played LD before joining Stockton.

 

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Might not have anything to do with eachover. We still need defenseman even if Kylington does stay.

Yeah, if we go with what we did after TDL last season and rotate those guys playing above their heads... we are still just on par. IIRC we lost that Okotoker dude because he went back to Russia.

I don't think we have any LD that are ready for more than a cup of coffee in that pool of committee based play for positions 4-6 defense. Other guys like Miromanov, Pachal, Hanley etc. perhaps deserve maybe the 20-40 game allotment but as far as I am expecting, I wouldn't give guys like Kuzy/Poirier etc. more than 9.

 

[rt]

Do yall expect Andersson to get moved?

 

[Ace Rimmer]

Do yall expect Andersson to get moved?

No*


*I've been wrong before.

 

[herashak]

Do yall expect Andersson to get moved?

If he has a better season and is looking for a Hronek type of deal I think he stays.

Side not if conroy signed pesce/skjei/Tanev this d core is legit for playoffs (bad idea but still)

 

[Mobiandi]

Hoping for a Kadri trade this summer

 

[DomBarr]

If he has a better season and is looking for a Hronek type of deal I think he stays.

Side not if conroy signed pesce/skjei/Tanev this d core is legit for playoffs (bad idea but still)

they aint signing in Calgary if they don't get extended by the Canes/Stars they are not going to burn the next 3 yrs waiting for the flames to turn it around.

Do yall expect Andersson to get moved?

I am wondering if he hasn't said the same thing Markstrom did. (IE I am not gonna make waves BUT if someone asks I wouldn't say no to a trade to a contender). Its not like he was expressing his commitment to Calgary at locker clean out day.

 

[BRobMint]

Out:
Markstrom
Hanifin
Lindholm
Tanev
Toffoli
Zadorov

In:
2024 1st Round Pick (VAN - 28)
2025 1st Round Pick (Top 10 Protected - NJD)
2026 1st Round Pick (Unprotected - VGK)
2024 2nd Round Pick (DAL - 62)
2023 3rd Round Pick (NJD - 80 - Suniev)
2024 3rd Round Pick (VGK - 84)
2026 3rd Round Pick (VAN)
2024 4th Round Pick (NJD - 107)
2024 5th Round Pick (CHI - 131)
Sharangovich
Kuzmenko
Miromanov
Bahl
Brzustewicz
Grushnikov
Jurmo

This is definitely a rebuild no matter how the Flames organization tries to spin it. "Re-tool" my ass

 

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Out:
Markstrom
Hanifin
Lindholm
Tanev
Toffoli
Zadorov

In:
2024 1st Round Pick (VAN - 28)
2025 1st Round Pick (Top 10 Protected - NJD)
2026 1st Round Pick (Unprotected - VGK)
2024 2nd Round Pick (DAL - 62)
2023 3rd Round Pick (NJD - 80 - Suniev)
2024 3rd Round Pick (VGK - 84)
2026 3rd Round Pick (VAN)
2024 4th Round Pick (NJD - 107)
2024 5th Round Pick (CHI - 131)
Sharangovich
Kuzmenko
Miromanov
Bahl
Brzustewicz
Grushnikov
Jurmo

This is definitely a rebuild no matter how the Flames organization tries to spin it. "Re-tool" my ass

It's a strip down of the roster and I assume the strip down continues to add more youth and futures... But if they trade those futures vs drafting with them to have a home grown pipeline instead, then I think it's valid to say it's a retool vs rebuild.

That also being said, our current pipeline looks pretty solid. Still a few gaps and there's an obvious gap for blue chips... but if a quantity for quality trade that's similar to Lindholm/Hanifin can be swung by Conroy, I think we could be optimistic in being right back in the thick of things next season or the season after that.

If you look at the roster next season without adding anyone, it's actually kinda interesting. Add a 2nd pairing dman and a good older platoon goalie for cheap to mentor Wolf who has a chance of getting hot (ie: Talbot/Fleury calibre guy)... we could squeak into the playoffs next season similar to what we did in 2014-2015.

My only complaint is that I have no clue who could be a lock to still be around in 3 years as a key young core piece. Even a dude like Coronato... you think about moving him if a young 1C potential type piece comes onto the market. I would sorta have my eyes on someone like Shane Wright.

 

[SlovakFlame]

What to do in the next months to stay competitive?

My ideas:
- trade Mangiapanne
- re-sign Sharangovich
- keep Anderson
- re-sign Kuzmenko if he plays well in the first half of the season
- re-sign Kylington

Free agent market:
- I still like the idea of signing Duclair
- sign Roslovic or Wennberg

Zary - Kadri - Pospisil
Huberdeu - Sharangovich - Kuzmenko
Duclair - Backlund - Coleman
Pelletier - Roslovic - Duehr

Weegar - Anderson
Bahl - Kylington
Miromanov - Pachal

Gilbert / Poirier

Wolf / Vladar

 

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I'd be interested in giving a team like Seattle a call to see if we can put together a package to pry Wright out of their system. I wonder what other reasonable targets would be worth looking into that we can get for a reasonable acquisition cost...

Dach maybe?

 

[InfinityIggy]

Out:
Markstrom
Hanifin
Lindholm
Tanev
Toffoli
Zadorov

In:
2024 1st Round Pick (VAN - 28)
2025 1st Round Pick (Top 10 Protected - NJD)
2026 1st Round Pick (Unprotected - VGK)
2024 2nd Round Pick (DAL - 62)
2023 3rd Round Pick (NJD - 80 - Suniev)
2024 3rd Round Pick (VGK - 84)
2026 3rd Round Pick (VAN)
2024 4th Round Pick (NJD - 107)
2024 5th Round Pick (CHI - 131)
Sharangovich
Kuzmenko
Miromanov
Bahl
Brzustewicz
Grushnikov
Jurmo

This is definitely a rebuild no matter how the Flames organization tries to spin it. "Re-tool" my ass

The Nikita Okhotiuk erasure.

 

[Tkachuk Norris]

Let’s get the #7 as well

Rasmus For Korpisalo (25% retained) and 7.

 

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Let’s get the #7 as well

Rasmus For Korpisalo (25% retained) and 7.

I'd want Chychrun as a throw in or 50% retention (instead of 25%).

I don't mind sending back a roster player with value to balance out the cap and value. But the cost to move a bad goalie in Korpisalo I think is rivaled only by Jack Campbell.

I'd want a little bit more value than 7th OA or more retention to make it easier to bury him if we're sending Rasmus the other way.

 

[Ace Rimmer]

This is definitely a rebuild no matter how the Flames organization tries to spin it. "Re-tool" my ass

I wanted to disagree with you, then I looked at the current roster.

Get on the James Hagens hype train I guess. Or whoever the next draft's phenom will be.

 

[Bounces R Way]

At least we didn't trade our starting goalie for PLD

#FlamesPositives

 

[Backlund]

At least we didn't trade our starting goalie for PLD

#FlamesPositives

It makes sense for Washington. Ovechkin needs somebody to play with until he breaks Gretzky's record. PLD is about as good as you can get right now as far as available talent, even if he plays like he doesn't give a f*** half the time.

 

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At least we didn't trade our starting goalie for PLD

#FlamesPositives

Fingers crossed, no more sex scandals. Two was way too many.