Are we the favorites to come out of East ?

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are the Leafs favorites to come out of the East ?


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Damn, should have put some money on the Bruins pre-season.
 
Definitely contenders for the throne, but Boston is having one of the greatest regular seasons of all-time and have stanley cup experience. So its them.
 
Boston is for sure, hard to argue against their record. On paper, I really like the ways in which we have improved over the past 10 or so days. Just need to see it translate to on ice results!
 
Bruins are clearly favored to win it all, considering their current record, pressure is on them.

All the new adds are just roster names at this point, can't wait to see how it all unfolds.

GLG
 
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Bruins are clearly favored to win it all, considering their current record, pressure is on them.

All the new adds are just roster names at this point, can't wait to see how it all unfolds.

GLG

Yeah, one thing giving me a bit of hope if we even make it to the second round to face Boston is that their goaltending is just as inexperienced as ours.
 
Not if Boston still exists. You can make an argument we wouldn't even be favoured over Carolina
 
Not if Boston still exists. You can make an argument we wouldn't even be favoured over Carolina
If the Canes continue to stand pat and not make a big move they'll be #5 for me. Their fundamental issue, lack of scoring, remains and they have done nothing to address it

BOS, TOR, TB, NYR are all above them
 
Anyone of Bruins, Tampa, Rangers, Canes or Leafs can come out of East .. compared to West where it is Avs and maybe Vegas .. completely lopsided way NHL does playoffs .. but we will see Cup quality hockey in round 1 .. too bad a Cup contender goes home in round 1
 
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Not if Boston still exists. You can make an argument we wouldn't even be favoured over Carolina
Only think that give us glimpse of hope is that Ror totally owned perfection line in finals on the way to the Cup.
He does it again and we can have our revenge. :cool:
 
We've obviously improved but it came at gutting our next 3 drafts so the question is , are we now the favorite to come out of East and win the cup ?

The Boston Bruins are chasing NHL history this season, so they are not only going to be the President's trophy winners but also the #1 ranked team entering the playoffs based on their season.

Boston Bruins record tracker: Wins, points, milestones​


Through 59 games, the Bruins have skated to a 46-8-5 record, good for 97 points and an .822 points percentage.

The Bruins are on pace for 64 wins by season's end. The current record for most wins in a season (62) was set in 1995-96 by the Detroit Red Wings (who finished 62-13-7), and tied in 2018-19 by the Tampa Bay Lightning (62-16-4).

Boston is on pace for 135 points this season. This would put them on pace for the current record for points in a season held by the 1976-77 Montreal Canadiens (132), who set that mark in an 80-game season. The Canadiens won the Cup that season -- over the Bruins.

Goal differential: +96


Goal differential is not an easily projectable stat for a number of reasons. But if we took the Bruins' current differential -- which is best in the league by 45 goals -- and extrapolated that out to 82 games, they'd finish at plus-133. That's a number that would blow by anything in the salary cap era.

Team save percentage: .930​

Linus Ullmark and Jeremy Swayman are one of the NHL's best goaltending duos, and along with a 30-of-31 game by Keith Kinkaid, the group has generated the league's best team save percentage, ahead of the New York Islanders at .921.

Goals against per game: 2.09​

All of those saves have resulted in not many goals for Bruins opponents. Their mark of 2.09 goals against per game is well ahead of the second place Carolina Hurricanes (2.55).

 
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The Boston Bruins are chasing NHL history this season, so they are not only going to be the President's trophy winners but also the #1 ranked team entering the playoffs based on their season.

Boston Bruins record tracker: Wins, points, milestones​


Through 59 games, the Bruins have skated to a 46-8-5 record, good for 97 points and an .822 points percentage.

The Bruins are on pace for 64 wins by season's end. The current record for most wins in a season (62) was set in 1995-96 by the Detroit Red Wings (who finished 62-13-7), and tied in 2018-19 by the Tampa Bay Lightning (62-16-4).

Boston is on pace for 135 points this season. This would put them on pace for the current record for points in a season held by the 1976-77 Montreal Canadiens (132), who set that mark in an 80-game season. The Canadiens won the Cup that season -- over the Bruins.

Goal differential: +96

Goal differential is not an easily projectable stat for a number of reasons. But if we took the Bruins' current differential -- which is best in the league by 45 goals -- and extrapolated that out to 82 games, they'd finish at plus-133. That's a number that would blow by anything in the salary cap era.

Team save percentage: .930​

Linus Ullmark and Jeremy Swayman are one of the NHL's best goaltending duos, and along with a 30-of-31 game by Keith Kinkaid, the group has generated the league's best team save percentage, ahead of the New York Islanders at .921.

Goals against per game: 2.09​

All of those saves have resulted in not many goals for Bruins opponents. Their mark of 2.09 goals against per game is well ahead of the second place Carolina Hurricanes (2.55).

If the Bruins were to win the Cup this year, will they be considered the Greatest Team of All Time?
 
The Boston Bruins are chasing NHL history this season, so they are not only going to be the President's trophy winners but also the #1 ranked team entering the playoffs based on their season.

Boston Bruins record tracker: Wins, points, milestones​


Through 59 games, the Bruins have skated to a 46-8-5 record, good for 97 points and an .822 points percentage.

The Bruins are on pace for 64 wins by season's end. The current record for most wins in a season (62) was set in 1995-96 by the Detroit Red Wings (who finished 62-13-7), and tied in 2018-19 by the Tampa Bay Lightning (62-16-4).

Boston is on pace for 135 points this season. This would put them on pace for the current record for points in a season held by the 1976-77 Montreal Canadiens (132), who set that mark in an 80-game season. The Canadiens won the Cup that season -- over the Bruins.

Goal differential: +96

Goal differential is not an easily projectable stat for a number of reasons. But if we took the Bruins' current differential -- which is best in the league by 45 goals -- and extrapolated that out to 82 games, they'd finish at plus-133. That's a number that would blow by anything in the salary cap era.

Team save percentage: .930​

Linus Ullmark and Jeremy Swayman are one of the NHL's best goaltending duos, and along with a 30-of-31 game by Keith Kinkaid, the group has generated the league's best team save percentage, ahead of the New York Islanders at .921.

Goals against per game: 2.09​

All of those saves have resulted in not many goals for Bruins opponents. Their mark of 2.09 goals against per game is well ahead of the second place Carolina Hurricanes (2.55).


Regular season means nothing in the playoffs. Isn’t that what everyone always says about us? If we accept that, why should we think it doesn’t work the same the other way?
 
Regular season means nothing in the playoffs. Isn’t that what everyone always says about us? If we accept that, why should we think it doesn’t work the same the other way?
The better discussion is how much better would our record have been had we started the season with our current lineup and how do we stack up against the Bruins and the east currently after the additions by both teams .
 
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Any team that has won at least won one round should get the nod ahead of the Leafs IMO

Factor in this season: Boston, Canes, Rangers, may be even tampa and then other teams can be discussed like Leafs, Devils

East is a blood bath; this year's SCF will be from the East. Who though is anyone's guess
 
If the Bruins were to win the Cup this year, will they be considered the Greatest Team of All Time?
The Detroit (131 pts) and Montreal (132 pts in 80 games) teams that Mess referenced accumulated their wins without regular season OT or Shoot Outs, So presently you need to reduce Boston's points total by 6 to account for the gimmick bonus points in order to compare apples to apples. When adjusted, they would be on a 126 point pace in 82 games.

Assuming that pace continued, the Montreal team would still hold the crown IMO.
 
The better discussion is how much better would our record have been had we started the season with our current lineup and how do stack up against the Bruins currently after the additions by both teams .

Agreed

Boston still looks like the team to beat in the East, even after their 2 new additions Orlov & Hathaway made them better still, but Leafs 4 new additions closed the gap. IMO.
 
The Detroit (131 pts) and Montreal (132 pts in 80 games) teams that Mess referenced accumulated their wins without regular season OT or Shoot Outs, So presently you need to reduce Boston's points total by 6 to account for the gimmick bonus points in order to compare apples to apples. When adjusted, they would be on a 126 point pace in 82 games.

Assuming that pace continued, the Montreal team would still hold the crown IMO.
Yeah, I get that by strictly points they would still be the top record overall.
IMO, what the Bruins are doing in this modern age of the game is much more difficult and I realize not everyone would agree with that.
 
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The better discussion is how much better would our record have been had we started the season with our current lineup and how do we stack up against the Bruins and the east currently after the additions by both teams .

I agree. That is a better discussion. There are a lot of what ifs that can be discussed too. Such as, what if Toronto wasn’t one of the most banged up teams this year. What is that worth in the standings?

Boston has been much healthier than us. Not that I think it comes close to closing a 15 point gap, but 5 points, maybe? Who knows

Our guys starting the season on time would have helped too. We did the same thing last year, stumbling out of the gate, and never caught Florida as a result despite playing neck and neck with them from like 2-3 weeks into the season to the end
 
I agree. That is a better discussion. There are a lot of what ifs that can be discussed too. Such as, what if Toronto wasn’t one of the most banged up teams this year. What is that worth in the standings?

Boston has been much healthier than us

Or what if the Leafs didn't drop so many points against bad teams.

Personally speaking, none of it matters as this team can go 82-0 and people will still not be satisfied because no one cares about the President's Trophy. They want to win in the playoffs.

It would feel absolutely incredible if the Leafs were to beat the Bruins in the playoffs. We would slam the door shut on their aging core and their so called "Last Dance."

But to get there we'll have to become the first team in nearly 3 years to beat a fully healthy Tampa team (Colorado beat Tampa but Brayden Point was injured and played just 2 games before being out again).

Yeah, I get that by strictly points they would still be the top record overall.
IMO, what the Bruins are doing in this modern age of the game is much more difficult and I realize not everyone would agree with that.

It definitely is much more difficult IMO.

Yes there are loser points but talent is also spread out across 32 teams which is why we don't see teams having seasons like the one Boston is having right now too often.

When I look at their roster, I don't think they are the most talented but they definitely play more cohesively than any other team. Each of their lines typically outplays their counterpart on any given night.
 
Or what if the Leafs didn't drop so many points against bad teams.

Personally speaking, none of it matters as this team can go 82-0 and people will still not be satisfied because no one cares about the President's Trophy. They want to win in the playoffs.

It would feel absolutely incredible if the Leafs were to beat the Bruins in the playoffs. We would slam the door shut on their aging core and their so called "Last Dance."

But to get there we'll have to become the first team in nearly 3 years to beat a fully healthy Tampa team (Colorado beat Tampa but Brayden Point was injured and played just 2 games before being out again).

I agree. I somewhat touched on that idea with my post edits! The reality is playing down to our opponent, pre deadline anyway, still appeared to have been part of our dna. We will see from here.

One thing I will say is that the playoffs are all about matchups. And I think people really underestimate what losing Palat and McDonaugh (their best defensive defenseman) does to their matchup game. I don’t think they’ll be an easy out, by any means, but those are big big losses they did not replace.
 
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Boston is the Beasts of the East on a record setting pace, and Tampa Bay has won 2 Cups and been to the finals that last 3 years.

Leafs are going to have their hands full running this gauntlet, but their new additions have increased their chances and significantly improved their team.

Leafs biggest question mark that separates them will be netminding. Netminding has been Leafs "Achilles Heel" going from Freddy Andersen to Campbell/Mrazek, now to Sammy & (Murray who knows?).

You're only as strong as your weakest link !!!

Goaltending might be the #1 critical deciding point on who comes out of the Atlantic now that strong teams have all added and strengthened themselves going forward.
 
It definitely is much more difficult IMO.

Yes there are loser points but talent is also spread out across 32 teams which is why we don't see teams having seasons like the one Boston is having right now too often.

When I look at their roster, I don't think they are the most talented but they definitely play more cohesively than any other team. Each of their lines typically outplays their counterpart on any given night.
Yep, plus the cap.

Bruins play playoff style hockey most nights, biggest reason for their success.
Can they keep up the pace of that style of play, we'll find out. Here's to hoping they can't.
 
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I agree. I somewhat touched on that idea with my post edits! The reality is playing down to our opponent, pre deadline anyway, still appeared to have been part of our dna. We will see from here.

We play down to our opponent in the regular season, play well in the regular season and playoffs against good teams. We consistently get series leads but can't close the deal.

It's absolutely weird but also very Leafy.

Despite all these moves and the stacked roster, I have no expectations. If it's going to happen, it will happen. No point in worrying.
 
We've obviously improved but it came at gutting our next 3 drafts so the question is , are we now the favorite to come out of East and win the cup ?

I don’t think our next 3 drafts are gutted at all, if we need to recoup picks we have players/prospects and RFA’s we can move to recoup those picks. I think Dubas said it best, they are comfortable with the prospects they have. The leafs draft better in the later rounds anyways.

If two of Knies, Holmberg, Voit, Niemela, Hirovinen, Steeves, SDA, Robertson, Hollowell for example hit, that’s a huge win
 

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