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Marc Savard as a rookie had 45 points playing with the cocaine ruined corpse of Kevin Stevens, Niklas "logo assassin" Sundstrom, and like 7 games of Todd Harvey.

Kid crushed it. What is this. lol

Whoever mentioned St. Manny, he never had puck skills or shooting ability to be a top 6 guy. He got drafted because it was a VERY weak draft up top and iirc because he shut down Joe Thornton pretty hard in juniors or something and he could really skate.
 
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Let’s break this down EA style for us millennials (I’m 33 and still considered one lol).

Chytil has like 90-91 potential. First line elite, but not generational.
So far he’s sitting at roughly the upper 70’s OA, very normal and expected for a 19 year old, and is trending up this year, especially based on recent play.

Even according to video game rules (my go-to sports bible) he’s on the right path, so not sure what some people want from this. He may or may not make 90 OA, but is 87-88 a bust and ‘ruined’?

A polished player he definitely won’t become by playing 25 a night in the AHL. Cutting teeth in the NHL is the only way to go unless he takes a giant step back.

Malhotra never should have been projected as he was, it was a time of little hope and he was worshipped as the savior. He will forever be remembered as the guy who never panned out due to mismanagement, true or not.
 
Manny was a big and strong kid who could really skate. He was also very smart and hard working. And occasionally he showed some decent puck handling skills in tight and a pretty heavy shot. But he wasn't a playmaker. And the overall ability to make players better that centers, or top 6 centers anyway, usually have was pretty much nonexistent.

Even looking back with the benefit of hindsight Manny was a weird case. What offensive talent he had seemed perfect to transition to the wing, at the time it wasn't hard to imagine him learning from Graves how to be a nightmare in front of and around the net, and that move would have made sense considering the Rangers short term center situation. But he looked great defensively so he was also an obvious choice to try and keep at center long term, if he could develop at least some of the offensive talent Smith was convinced he had, but that would have meant sending him back to juniors which Smith refused to do.

Even 20 years late I don't get what anyone was thinking.
 
QJL said:
Can we change this thread name to “Are the Kids Ruining the Tank?”
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Filip Chytil

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McRanger said:
Manny was a big and strong kid who could really skate. He was also very smart and hard working. And occasionally he showed some decent puck handling skills in tight and a pretty heavy shot. But he wasn't a playmaker. And the overall ability to make players better that centers, or top 6 centers anyway, usually have was pretty much nonexistent.

Even looking back with the benefit of hindsight Manny was a weird case. What offensive talent he had seemed perfect to transition to the wing, at the time it wasn't hard to imagine him learning from Graves how to be a nightmare in front of and around the net, and that move would have made sense considering the Rangers short term center situation. But he looked great defensively so he was also an obvious choice to try and keep at center long term, if he could develop at least some of the offensive talent Smith was convinced he had, but that would have meant sending him back to juniors which Smith refused to do.

Even 20 years late I don't get what anyone was thinking.
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Quinn would have liked Manny.
 
WeRa said:
IMO Skjei played well and have no healthy problems... so is some possible trade the main reason?
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Quinn is - smartly - establishing in the players minds that no one is gifted playing time. It’s exactly what he should be doing. It’s like they say about taking a swing at the toughest-looking guy first day in prison.
 
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ReggieDunlop68 said:
In the past, the Rangers burned out prospects and ended up trading them or burying them by NOT playing them in the NHL. The Rangers had so much old and over paid **** on the roster that there wasn't even spots to take for what they did draft when they weren't flipping their 1st OA for some other aging star.

Unless it leads to injury, I do not see how playing the team's top prospects in a lower pressure year hurt. How can NHL experience hurt? And Quinn has been easing them in, yet people ***** about that too.
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I remember when Crosby and Ovechkin were rookies. Guy who sits next to me at games was talking about he wishes the Rangers were bad enough to get Ovechkin in the 04 draft and then lucky enough to get Crosby. Guy next to him said, "Why? If we did, Crosby would still be in juniors 'developing' and Ovechkin would be in Hartford so he can 'get used to the NA style and rink..." Sad but true back then. Yes, I am sure it is an exaggeration, but that definitely seemed to be the attitude of the organization back then.
 
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