Are the Jets for real or are they going to crash and burn?

[johnnyonthspot]

Jets just aren’t built for playoffs. You don’t win with losers like Scheifele.

I have made that argument all year on the Jets board because there is a blue print for beating them. It remains to be seen if Chevy can add a proper playoff piece or two unlike last years Monoghan/Toffoli experiment that seemed great on paper but not on ice.

Scheif is far from a loser. He is a highly skilled NHL player that has matured over the years. he seems more team oriented since Wheeler left. I would not call anyone who makes a career playing professional sport a loser given the hard work, dedication and talent required. Few players win titles look at Dan Marino, Milt Stegall, Josh Allen (thus far), Joe Thorton to name a few. These guys were all high quality , star athletes not losers because they could not win a championship.

 

[FinlandPanther]

14 goals in 17 playoff games in 2018.

Doesn’t play defense.

I have made that argument all year on the Jets board because there is a blue print for beating them. It remains to be seen if Chevy can add a proper playoff piece or two unlike last years Monoghan/Toffoli experiment that seemed great on paper but not on ice.

Scheif is far from a loser. He is a highly skilled NHL player that has matured over the years. he seems more team oriented since Wheeler left. I would not call anyone who makes a career playing professional sport a loser given the hard work, dedication and talent required. Few players win titles look at Dan Marino, Milt Stegall, Josh Allen (thus far), Joe Thorton to name a few. These guys were all high quality , star athletes not losers because they could not win a championship.

Scheifele doesn’t play any D.

 

[Mr Kot]

I think they are forizel

 

[Turin]

Dylan Samberg is awesome and they need to sign him immediately. They need to replace Namestnikov (who is admittedly one of the most underrated players in the league) with a bonafide #2 C who can score, move Names down and they will be a problem in the playoffs. Finally.

 

[Volica]

If you have a world caliber goalie, which they do.
If you have a line that can really score, which they do.
If you have solid depth, which they do.

You have a chance at going deep. It's a good reminder that you don't have to 'blow it up' after a down season, and that sometimes all it takes is a little maneuvering in the locker room and a couple guys finding a new gear.

 

[johnnyonthspot]

Doesn’t play defense.


Scheifele doesn’t play any D.

What does that have to do with your comment about not winning with Scheif? He is paid to score not stop goals. His d-zone play is suspect at time (2 fly bys on Saturday leading to goals) but then he makes up for it with his o-zone play. The key is team defence in playoffs , which he has to commit to for the Jets to meet the Leafs in the cup.

 

[Deno]

Oilers will be back in the final imo. Jets might be good to pass 1st round. They get Calgary right n

Doesn’t play defense.


Scheifele doesn’t play any D.

Thanks for proving you do not watch Jet games.

Doesn’t play defense.


Scheifele doesn’t play any D.

Thanks for proving you do not watch Jet games.

 

[Kevinsane]

Toronto is for real. I think it's their year, finally.

I'm thinking ECF.

Where they go from there will be solely on Matthew's shoulders.

Every year it’s “this year”.

 

[Deno]

Observations:
Jet are 10W in Oct, 9W in Nov, 9W in Dec, and 9W in Jan. I'd say this is elite winning consistency.

Helle's season so far is much better then last season which he won the Vesina

Jets are 19-9-3 against all curent PO teams so far. Again elite consistency.

Jet's PP has come back down to Earth from 50% in Oct to 33.3% today. Almost 5% points ahead of 2nd place Vegas

Jets goal Diff is 64. 11 goals higher then 2nd place Wash.

Now that we are about 2/3 of the season done I would say these are top consistent SC contending numbers. Unless the Jets fall flat on their face for the rest of the season they will go in the PO's as a top 3 seed if not the top seed. Now they will have to prove it in the POs. Anything less then a WCF would be considered another fail season for the Jets even if they win the President's Trophy.

 

[Dust]

The Jets look really, really good. My only concern would be that Hellebuyck is on pace to start 64 games again this year and burn out in the postseason.

 

[MrHeiskanen]

If Hellebuyck can actually stop a puck come playoff time they might get out of the first round for once.

 

[Hank Chinaski]

If Hellebuyck can actually stop a puck come playoff time they might get out of the first round for once.

Twice. Jets have been past the first round twice, thank you very much.

 

[Bender Duster]

Doesn’t play defense.


Scheifele doesn’t play any D.

I take it you last watched the Jets when Laine was traded.

 

[Jumptheshark]

3 months on from the start of this thread and they are still going strong

 

[Jetcetera]

The only justification people have to not say this is a good team is "they were bad the last two playoffs" it's pretty laughable.

 

[FinlandPanther]

What does that have to do with your comment about not winning with Scheif? He is paid to score not stop goals. His d-zone play is suspect at time (2 fly bys on Saturday leading to goals) but then he makes up for it with his o-zone play. The key is team defence in playoffs , which he has to commit to for the Jets to meet the Leafs in the cup.

You don’t win cups playing 1 way hockey, unless you’re elite at it. And even then it’s still hard.

I take it you last watched the Jets when Laine was traded.

Scheifele is lazy on D. Instead of being offended over the truth, you can embrace it.

Thanks for proving you do not watch Jet games.

Thanks for proving you do not watch Jet games.

I watch them. That’s why I said Scheifele sucks at D

 

[Buffdog]

But they will. The refs always put the whistles away in the playoffs.

I thought that too until I looked it up. I was wrong

Let’s talk about penalties in the NHL playoffs | TSN

To say officiating has been under fire during the Stanley Cup Playoffs would be an understatement. Travis Yost takes a closer look at the numbers behind the calls.

www.tsn.ca

 

[johnnyonthspot]

You don’t win cups playing 1 way hockey, unless you’re elite at it. And even then it’s still hard.


Scheifele is lazy on D. Instead of being offended over the truth, you can embrace it.


I watch them. That’s why I said Scheifele sucks at D

It certainly is not the strongest part of his game but it has improved since wheeler left

 

[castle]

But they will. The refs always put the whistles away in the playoffs.

This has been shown to be false. The number of power plays barely changes from regular season to playoffs. What appears to change is what you can get away with, but apparently there is still a line that the players find and cross.

 

[Jaytee]

You don’t win cups playing 1 way hockey, unless you’re elite at it. And even then it’s still hard.


Scheifele is lazy on D. Instead of being offended over the truth, you can embrace it.


I watch them. That’s why I said Scheifele sucks at D

2021 called. They would like their outdated, no-longer-accurate observations back.

 

[Jaytee]

But they will. The refs always put the whistles away in the playoffs.

The refs have pretty much already put their whistles away for 12 of the last 15 Jets games, and yet they’re 8-2 in their last ten games. They are not a one-dimensional team, not even remotely.

 

[Devonator]

They are impressing me....I wasn't sure about them but they look really good right now....but the West is going to be the usual slug fest.....about 5-6 teams could go to the Cup....I still think likely Edmonton is the team to beat though....but it is very very close.

 

[FinlandPanther]

2021 called. They would like their outdated, no-longer-accurate observations back.

Yeah makes sense why you’ve been so successful after game 82 lately.

 

[Hobble]

They don’t completely depend on Helle to win games anymore. That being said if he performs like he did in last years playoffs, we will get smoked and labeled pretenders. If he performs close to his regular season, this or last year, in the playoffs we should be one of the favourites. The PP is such a ridiculous weapon this year, and as long as the chances don’t significantly drop in the playoffs, they should keep scoring.

Refs as the Jets “randomly” get 0.5 PP per playoff game.

 

[x Tame Impala]

He did not crumble if you look at the 'advanced stats'. The Av's just scored on more of their high danger chances( which shockingly were almost even) than the Jets did and couple Av's had career playoff rounds whereas the Jets stars were all bad. I still fear a playoff meltdown by the jets but I am enjoying this most recent winning streak.

“What do you expect Coach? It was a high danger chance!”

Come on man. I can’t believe you’re seriously making that point. “He wasn’t bad he just let in a lot of goals”. He’s supposed to be one of the best goalies in the league. He’s gotta be excellent in the playoffs too no matter what.