Value of: Arber Xhekaj value in a trade

[HabsAddict]

Someone somewhere else suggested that we need forward talent more then toughness. i disagree. i wouldn't trade him unless it's a massive overpayment...but that's just me.

I don't need to talk about his obvious physicality and fighting abilities and as of right now, he is good enough for the Habs top 6, but not good enough on an top contender. Will he improve? Sure he will. He was working for COSTCO a few years ago and he's in the NHL now. That's verticle progress. He needs faster footwork and better vision. One is trainable and the other, in time. I'm expecting that he will be legitimate top 4 in a 3-4 years. I'm also expecting a much more defensive system oriented team and coaching, which is a huge benefit for players like X.

Obviously if he was already a top 1 or 2, unless it was superstar potential young forward, hang up the phone.

Soo...what value would you put on him in a draft trade?

We need better forwards more then more defenseman so what would be your offer one for one in a young forward?

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[pth2]

I think he's the kind of guy who ends up being a secondary piece in a deal to upgrade elsewhere, and not someone who will fetch a high pick/prospect on his own.

 

[FlappyGiraffe]

A 3rd is probably the ceiling of what I'd give up

 

[Qwijibo]

A 3rd is probably the ceiling of what I'd give up

Cool story.you could just say you're not actually interested

 

[Crazy8oooo]

Cool story.you could just say you're not actually interested

Looks like he’d be interested for a mid range pick, so why would he say otherwise?

 

[pth2]

Looks like he’d be interested for a mid range pick, so why would he say otherwise?

Look at the OP. The intent isn't to pawn him off for whatever, it's looking for a useful return.

 

[Qwijibo]

Looks like he’d be interested for a mid range pick, so why would he say otherwise?

Because there's not a chance in hell that Montreal would move him for that.

 

[Crazy8oooo]

Because there's not a chance in hell that Montreal would move him for that.

So you could’ve just said that to him. Instead you’re telling him to say he isn’t interested when he actually would be for a mid range pick.

Look at the OP. The intent isn't to pawn him off for whatever, it's looking for a useful return.

lol I’m not going to argue whether it’s a useful return or not because I really don’t care. The poster whom I responded to was telling him to say he wasn’t interested, which wasn’t really the case. He would be interested for a mid range pick, as he posted.

 

[Qwijibo]

So you could’ve just said that to him. Instead you’re telling him to say he isn’t interested when he actually would be for a mid range pick.

Saying you'd be interested at a price that isnt remotely reasonable is akin to saying you're not really interested.

 

[Crazy8oooo]

Saying you'd be interested at a price that isnt remotely reasonable is akin to saying you're not really interested.

Or it means exactly what he said. A mid range pick would suffice for him.

 

[FlappyGiraffe]

Saying you'd be interested at a price that isnt remotely reasonable is akin to saying you're not really interested.

I think a 3rd is pretty reasonable, that's what my team paid for DeMelo who is a much better player and a right hand shot.

 

[HabsAddict]

Looks like he’d be interested for a mid range pick, so why would he say otherwise?

NEVER said that.

Often a way to establish a players relative worth is through draft choice. Thus "what value would you put on him". In no world is X worth a 3rd unless the intent was to bait.

In reality, Habs are not interested in draft choices, our cupboard is loaded with prospects. What we need is more offense with better young forwards. Thus the last paragraph.

Better to say that you are not interested in a trade with your favorite team and move on.

 

[Crazy8oooo]

Thanks for your input. You'll excuse me if I disregard it.

By all means. Won’t hurt my feelings.

 

[Larry Hanson]

What a ridiculous thread, just say what you want for him. If it's nothing short of a "superstar potential young forward" that's just bonkers.

 

[pth2]

So you could’ve just said that to him. Instead you’re telling him to say he isn’t interested when he actually would be for a mid range pick.


lol I’m not going to argue whether it’s a useful return or not because I really don’t care. The poster whom I responded to was telling him to say he wasn’t interested, which wasn’t really the case. He would be interested for a mid range pick, as he posted.

So if you are selling your car, even if it's a fairly new model and you told me it's to get a down payment for a house, you'll think 50$ is a reasonable offer ?

 

[Qwijibo]

I think a 3rd is pretty reasonable, that's what my team paid for DeMelo who is a much better player and a right hand shot.

Explain to me why Montreal would consider accepting that? He's a bona-fide NHL player who brings a skillset that's incredibly rare in today's NHL. He's young, cheap, abd improving. They dont need cap space. The only reason they would move him is to upgrade an area of weakness. A 3rd round pick isn't likely to even make it to the show. Let alone be impactful. That's like the old Simpson episode where Homer trades in a boat for a mystery box because box could have anything in it, even a boat. It's nonsensical

 

[Crazy8oooo]

NEVER said that.

Often a way to establish a players relative worth is through draft choice. Thus "what value would you put on him". In no world is X worth a 3rd unless the intent was to bait.

In reality, Habs are not interested in draft choices, our cupboard is loaded with prospects. What we need is more offense with better young forwards. Thus the last paragraph.

Better to say that you are not interested in a trade with your favorite team and move on.

He sure did say that. He clearly said he’d be interested for a mid range pick. See the quote below.

A 3rd is probably the ceiling of what I'd give up

So if you are selling your car, even if it's a fairly new model and you told me it's to get a down payment for a house, you'll think 50$ is a reasonable offer ?

Who said anything about a reasonable offer? I was responding to someone who told another poster to say he wasn’t interested when in fact he would be at the right price.

 

[HabsAddict]

What a ridiculous thread, just say what you want for him. If it's nothing short of a "superstar potential young forward" that's just bonbonkers.

Read the ENTIRE sentance.

 

[FlappyGiraffe]

Explain to me why Montreal would consider accepting that? He's a bona-fide NHL player who brings a skillset that's incredibly rare in today's NHL. He's young, cheap, abd improving. They dont need cap space. The only reason they would move him is to upgrade an area of weakness. A 3rd round pick isn't likely to even make it to the show. Let alone be impactful. That's like the old Simpson episode where Homer trades in a boat for a mystery box because box could have anything in it, even a boat. It's nonsensical

From OP:

"Soo...what value would you put on him in a draft trade?"

I'm being accused of baiting for answering OP and valuing a bottom pairing guy at a third?

Zadorov is best case scenario for Xhekaj's upside and he just got moved for a third and a fifth

 

[Qwijibo]

From OP:

"Soo...what value would you put on him in a draft trade?"

I'm being accused of baiting for answering OP and valuing a bottom pairing guy as a third?

Zadorov is best case scenario for Xhekaj's upside and he just got moved for a third and a fifth

Zadorov requested a trade and is a pending UFA. Calgary was looking to move him. Montreal has zero reason to move Xhekaj. So I ask again. Why would Montreal accept a 3rd for a player that's still under team control, hasn't requested a trade, and the team has no need or desire to move him

 

[pth2]

Read the ENTIRE sentance.

Be nice. Reading is hard.

 

[FlappyGiraffe]

Zadorov requested a trade and is a pending UFA. Calgary was looking to move him. Montreal has zero reason to move Xhekaj. So I ask again. Why would Montreal accept a 3rd for a player that's still under team control, hasn't requested a trade, and the team has no need or desire to move him

I don't know brother, a third is roughly market value for the player and the thread is asking about the value of Xhekaj.

Ask habsaddict why Hughes would move him, he's the one who made the thread.

 

[Qwijibo]

I don't know brother, a third is roughly market value for the player and the thread is asking about the value of Xhekaj.

Ask habsaddict why Hughes would move him, he's the one who made the thread.

In other words you can't come up with a reasonable justification for why Montreal would move him for that.

 

[Crazy8oooo]

Zadorov requested a trade and is a pending UFA. Calgary was looking to move him. Montreal has zero reason to move Xhekaj. So I ask again. Why would Montreal accept a 3rd for a player that's still under team control, hasn't requested a trade, and the team has no need or desire to move him

It’s an easy answer. He wasn’t giving you a value that he thinks the Habs would trade him for. He was answering the question he bolded, which was included in the OP.

"Soo...what value would you put on him in a draft trade?"

 

[Crazy8oooo]

In other words you can't come up with a reasonable justification for why Montreal would move him for that.

Really, you should be questioning the OP on why he included "Soo...what value would you put on him in a draft trade?" in his post. You’re getting offended at a poster for simply responding to the OP. Go after the OP since you’re not liking the responses.