Player Discussion Arber Xhekaj the Sheriff Returns Edition

Yep. In fact, in his first season he was probably our 2nd or 3rd best defender. Its clear hes not confident and MSL hurts his game.
this is the case imo...he has to play on the edge to be effective, and MSL tends to yo-yo him in favour of safer vets like Savard. Arber never got a chance to play with Hutson like every other d has.
He should be back in the lineup tuesday, and if not, definitely vs the Bruins
 
Xhekaj been really for 3/4 of the year, showing glimpse of what he can become. Now, he has a little bad strech while playing with the sac of potstoes Savard, and most here want him gone lol.
Struble’s been shit for 3/4 of the year. And he didn’t look that good when away from hutson today.

MSL is a clown.
 
Who has TBay ever had whose only capability is as a pugilist? Stars? Avs? Canes?

Just as Harris fell down the ad depth cart last season, Xhekaj has been passed by Struble and Laval prospects this season

Struble’s been shit for 3/4 of the year.

Xhekaj been good for 3/4 of the year.

Xhekaj played with Savard all f***ing year. Lets that sink in.
 
Who has TBay ever had whose only capability is as a pugilist? Stars? Avs? Canes?

Just as Harris was passed by last season, Xhekaj has been passed by Struble and Laval prospects this season
I don't think he's only a pugilist.
TB has had many - most recently had Jeannot and Watson...
Avs used Macdermid and recently middleton.

Thing you failed to mention is that none of these teams are as small as the Habs
 
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I actually said that he has the shot and physical attributes of a Chara, not that he's actually going to be the next Chara. I also pointed out that Chara didn't develop to that level overnight. Which implied that X has potential of developing much further. Or not.

I know, reading is hard and limited IQ doesn't help you.

That's not what you said but I couldn't possibly care any less to rehash it. This guy is not Chara in any possible way including the shot, there really isn't a comparison to be made so it's a low IQ comparison.

You see, Chara's shot was an actual weapon that was used to score goals. Xhekaj's shot is used to impress non-hockey minds at a skills competition, other than that it might as well not exist.

How high IQ would I need to be to see that Xhekaj is similar to Chara in some way? Can your professional management experience quantify that for me?
 
Which is why you need guys with some toughness that can play, and pushback throughout your lineup.

We don't have enough of either right now, as the roster is currently constituted. But one tough guy alone can't make enough of a difference to offset a soft roster.

We need a more "collectively-tough" team culture, and to add middle-6 players and top-4 defensemen with gumption to fuel that identity.

Thing is, at this point in his career Xhekaj is a good #6 defenseman and that's it. He helps with depth, and when trying to balance-out teams with a lot of toughness, but Xhekaj currently can't really help our top-end be harder-to-play-against.

If Xhekaj was able to play 20-21 minutes of reliable hockey a night, we wouldn't be having this conversation and he'd be pretty close to an untouchable on our team considering his age, size, toughness, and physicality.

But Xhekaj hasn't shown the level of play required for that role long-term as of yet. Plain and simple.

And then there's the fact that Xhekaj HAS progressed here and there since his rookie year, but that he has yet to show any form of consistency for longer periods of time, which is exactly what you'd want to start seeing in a young D in his 3rd season in the pros.

Quantifiably-speaking, the improvements Xhekaj has shown also haven't been exactly earth-shaking in the last couple of years.

If we look at Xhekaj's usage, well, it's abundantly clear that he also hasn't been trusted on the PK, which I think is warranted considering that Xhekaj has some pretty glaring defensive lapses at times.

Moreover, the "fancy stats" also show that Xhekaj hasn't been a net-positive on puck-possession at 5-on-5 so that, combined with somewhat sheltered deployment 5-on-5 and what we've already talked about, kind of compounds the issue a bit in Xhekaj's case.

The thing Xhekaj has going for him is his toughness, how he IS good at helping break the cycle with his strength on the boards, how he can protect the front-of-the-net, and his overall physical abilities, as well as the flashes of potential on D that he sometimes shows (and frustrates me with at times).

But Xhekaj still needs a lot of development defensively, and some maturing-up to do on how to be a consistent pro before he becomes a legit top-4 defenseman and more than a complementary piece for us.

Unfortunately, at this point it isn't immediately evident if Xhekaj will in fact ever manage to reach that playing level. Some players simply don't progress much past certain thresholds. It just is what it is.

So yeah, I'd personally keep Xhekaj, continue giving him playing time and trying to see if he might not finally be able to take the next step for the Canadiens.

I'd also look at adding some guys with toughness and playing ability to shore the middle-6 and second defensive pairing. But that might be hard to do/gauge given the volatility of the UFA market and that EVERY team is looking to get tougher/better.

Incidentally, in the unlikely scenario of a deal for a higher-end piece on D with some toughness necessitating Xhekaj to be included, our management should be ready to trade him (plus more obviously) if it is what it takes.
The issue I have with X is that he can play a simple game, but like I said previously, he's young and makes questionable decisions. To you or me, coming all the way across the ice makes no sense, but to him, literally that ONE second he made that decision, it seemed like a good idea that can make a difference.

He can physically bully anyone with impunity on the ice and now does it without getting a penalty. He has yet to learn he doesn't have the lateral dexterity or timing to catch people in devastating checks.

It's frustrating to see him make mistakes, minor or major, but he's also the exceptional physical presence that can threaten Sens Tkachuk and that team takes notice. We haven't had anyone like that since Furgeson.

He needs more time and effort. Maybe a few more years before we see the 95% product. Trading him now would be a gross error that can't be easily fixed. Strubles type replacement can be had but not at X level.
 
Prepare to be disappointed, Struble is already a much better player. Xhekaj is going to need to really develop in a massive way to stay in this lineup.

Engstrom is gonna take that spot long term imo, no question.

If Struble is "much better" then maybe Hughes can extract trade value.

Engstrom isn't close and can play on both sides anyway.
 
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this is the case imo...he has to play on the edge to be effective, and MSL tends to yo-yo him in favour of safer vets like Savard. Arber never got a chance to play with Hutson like every other d has.
He should be back in the lineup tuesday, and if not, definitely vs the Bruins
He did play a game with Hutson...and I had to hide under a pillow. Hutson is a high risk, high reward player that needs someone that can skate well as well as try to compensate for his mistakes. That's why Math made sense and now Guhle.

X and a 5 year younger Savard would work better but right now, that combo is purely defensive with very limited puck movement. X is by no means an effective puck carrier and Savard is a step quicker then a boat anchor.

Given our current selection of players, it's a bit of mix and match with decent but no great matches. The Math-Carrier works but obviously error prone. Guhle-Hutson can work because Guhle is exceptional defensively. X with? Struble is a better match then Savard but the later is far more defensive.

It's going to take a bit more maturity of the entire lot...
 
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Who has TBay ever had whose only capability is as a pugilist? Stars? Avs? Canes?

Just as Harris fell down the ad depth cart last season, Xhekaj has been passed by Struble and Laval prospects this season
Which AHL prospect?

Engstrom is the best developed of the current lot. He's at Harris level but we need to see him for a ten game NHL to better determine that.

Rein has obviously a ton of potential but his knees are still an issue and we need to see him at NHL level speed to.

Maillioux is a mess. He's Math level offense and high risk defensively. Given how Marty is selective about who he rewards and punishes, M is a coin toss. M with Guhle may be nuclear, but then Guhle is already going down the wedding isle with Hutson.

NONE of them can displace X. Closest one is Rein, but yet to be proven.
 
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Prepare to be disappointed, Struble is already a much better player. Xhekaj is going to need to really develop in a massive way to stay in this lineup.

Engstrom is gonna take that spot long term imo, no question.
Easier to find Strubles out there. Look at Carrier, came out of nowhere.

When was the last time we had a Xhekaj? He's a fan-favorite for a reason. His fights bring energy to this team. You can't deny that.
 
This crazy MSL affection to vets scares me a bit. Why would you bench Xhekaj, if Savard is clearly your worst D whole season. He may have just 9 games left in his career, but we care some much while Xhekaj might be our shut-down guy when we contend and nobody gives a sheet. Savard should have been 7th D a long time ago and Xhekaj/Struble should be having his PK role. Same with Matheson playing almost 25 minutes per game, then he is overloaded and makes stupid mistakes.
 
This crazy MSL affection to vets scares me a bit. Why would you bench Xhekaj, if Savard is clearly your worst D whole season. He may have just 9 games left in his career, but we care some much while Xhekaj might be our shut-down guy when we contend and nobody gives a sheet. Savard should have been 7th D a long time ago and Xhekaj/Struble should be having his PK role. Same with Matheson playing almost 25 minutes per game, then he is overloaded and makes stupid mistakes.
Hate to repeat myself but I think there is a perspective many commentators are not considering

Xhekaj didn't just make a mistake or bad read -- in other words, he didn't get beat -- he made a bad decision, he beat himself. With seven d-men available and Savard being a wily veteran who does NOT make those decisions, there is no way a coach fighting for a playoff spot would rely on the guy who is a risk of major errors in judgement versus the guy who is slow and on his last legs but still reads the play and makes decisions better than Xhekaj.

I don't like seeing Savard out there either but if I was in that lockerroom I wouldn't like seeing Xhekaj make decisions that directly lead to goals against. Devastating for morale.

My question is why has Xhekaj not managed to re-gain confidence in his ability? He's been stuck in a gear all season. Either MSL and him do not mesh or he's suffering from some sort of malaise of confidence. The struggle for a playoff spot is not the right time to give breaks to players. He has had all season to find his form -- look at Struble, in the dog house all season but he's not lost his form and he's jumped over Xhekaj in the pecking order.
 
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The Habs need a physical presence in order to be successful.

Do you remember when Boston had Lucic, Thornton, etc, the Habs had Kostpoulos and White and the fan motto/cope was "we'll make them pay on the power play"?

That Boston team won a Cup.
Then we get Julien as head coach a 2nd time, and he gets Bergevin to get him friggin' Ott, Martinsen and King and go nowhere. :DD
 
This crazy MSL affection to vets scares me a bit. Why would you bench Xhekaj, if Savard is clearly your worst D whole season. He may have just 9 games left in his career, but we care some much while Xhekaj might be our shut-down guy when we contend and nobody gives a sheet. Savard should have been 7th D a long time ago and Xhekaj/Struble should be having his PK role. Same with Matheson playing almost 25 minutes per game, then he is overloaded and makes stupid mistakes.
I think predictability goes a long way in this case.

If I'm MSL and my team is constantly having to come back from behind to win, i take a Savard if only to use him in D missions when someone that blocks well is a boon. You come to expect Savard's shortcomings because he is consistently slowing down. Xhekaj's mistakes are more.. unpredictable.

I think Struble has higher upside than Xhekaj, though Xhekaj is definitely a unicorn. Neither is untouchable.

Also, am i the only one that found the latest commercial featuring the Sherriff at La Belle et La Boeuf cringeworthy? He gets angry because someone took a bite out of his burger, until he figures out that a cartoon cow did it, at which point he laughs. Like... that burger is so good that cows will become cannibals? yikes.
 
Struble is basically franky bouillon 2.0 except Bouillon was tougher.

I much prefer Xhekaj on our third pair than him. Struble is gonna be a fine player, no disrespect, but bye bye this summer
 
This crazy MSL affection to vets scares me a bit. Why would you bench Xhekaj, if Savard is clearly your worst D whole season. He may have just 9 games left in his career, but we care some much while Xhekaj might be our shut-down guy when we contend and nobody gives a sheet. Savard should have been 7th D a long time ago and Xhekaj/Struble should be having his PK role. Same with Matheson playing almost 25 minutes per game, then he is overloaded and makes stupid mistakes.
msl will prolong the rebuild if not destroy it,such a waste.three years and we still have no identity
 
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