Prospect Info: April 2: Alexei Kolosov has joined AHL Phantoms (Goalie, 2021 draft pick); played April 13

[GKJ]

Probably opens the door to find a good fit with a KHL team who may need the help if they do that. He’s not going to stick with the Flyers, and they don’t want to play in the AHL

 

[deadhead]

It'll be interesting to see what happens:

a) he's really that good, and the Flyers find a way to accommodate him

b) he gets a wake up call and realizes if he wants to play in the NHL he needs to stay

c) he ignores his wake up call and insists on NHL or bust, Flyers decide he's their 5th best goalie and let him return to Minsk and play out his ELC then let him walk if he doesn't drastically improve

 

[usahockey22flyers]

If anyone wants to meet up in Voorhees this upcoming week - I'd be down to catch practice

 

[deadhead]

Probably opens the door to find a good fit with a KHL team who may need the help if they do that. He’s not going to stick with the Flyers, and they don’t want to play in the AHL

That raises an interesting question, if he can't play for Minsk, would he really prefer a KHL team over Lehigh? Sochi is a nice place to play (on the Black Sea, tourist spot) but there are lots of KHL teams in places you won't want to spend six months.

 

[GKJ]

That raises an interesting question, if he can't play for Minsk, would he really prefer a KHL team over Lehigh? Sochi is a nice place to play (on the Black Sea, tourist spot) but there are lots of KHL teams in places you won't want to spend six months.

Yes.

 

[blackjackmulligan]

It'll be interesting to see what happens:

a) he's really that good, and the Flyers find a way to accommodate him

b) he gets a wake up call and realizes if he wants to play in the NHL he needs to stay

c) he ignores his wake up call and insists on NHL or bust, Flyers decide he's their 5th best goalie and let him return to Minsk and play out his ELC then let him walk if he doesn't drastically improve

Flyers would be dumb to pay him another 900k to play in Russia.

I think it's less about saving face than getting a first hand look and being able to evaluate his progress. Looking at KHL video is not the same as seeing and working with him first hand.

Bjarnason's clock starts next season when he goes to the AHL, Zavragin probably comes over in 2027-28 (3 year KHL deal). Ersson and Fedotov are in the NHL.

If you play out Kolosov's deal in Minsk, you won't be able to have him work with your goalie coaches (a strength of the organization) and have to make a decision in 2026-27 when he's a RFA with less information than you'd like.

We lost Stolarz b/c a knee injury meant he wasn't ready for NHL when they had to make a decision.

It's not just about Kolosov, it's also about the decision to extend Ersson and/or Fedotov.

According to who? How is the goalie coach a strength?

 

[Cody Webster]

I think it's less about saving face than getting a first hand look and being able to evaluate his progress. Looking at KHL video is not the same as seeing and working with him first hand.

Bjarnason's clock starts next season when he goes to the AHL, Zavragin probably comes over in 2027-28 (3 year KHL deal). Ersson and Fedotov are in the NHL.

If you play out Kolosov's deal in Minsk, you won't be able to have him work with your goalie coaches (a strength of the organization) and have to make a decision in 2026-27 when he's a RFA with less information than you'd like.

We lost Stolarz b/c a knee injury meant he wasn't ready for NHL when they had to make a decision.

It's not just about Kolosov, it's also about the decision to extend Ersson and/or Fedotov.

Again, they had their chance to get a first hand look at him at the end of last season. They chose to play a career scrub over him. This is all about saving face, but of course, you can't go against this wonderful organization that has brought us all so much joy over the last 15 years

 

[Random Forest]

Very hard to see how this works out. It seems more like Kolosov reluctantly realized the Flyers weren’t just going to roll over and let him play overseas. But there’s no way to guarantee NHL time before giving Ersson and/or Fedotov time to play themselves out of their spots which itself is no guarantee.

 

[Curufinwe]

Flyers would be dumb to pay him another 900k to play in Russia.


According to who? How is the goalie coach a strength?

If he plays in Russia the Russian team would be paying him

 

[SolidSnakeUS]

Good. I f***ing hope he fights for the starter position.

 

[thedjpd]

Good. I f***ing hope he fights for the starter position.

lol. He lost his spot now. What a dumb decision this was the whole time.

 

[BiggE]

I don’t think they’ll have a problem scratching Cal if needed, nor do I think Cal will mind getting paid 5 million to do nothing.

 

[ponder719]

lol. He lost his spot now. What a dumb decision this was the whole time.

What spot did he lose? What spot did he have? We still don't know how this is going to shake out, but I don't get the sense that Kolosov was guaranteed much of anything before this point, and he's still not guaranteed much of anything now. He's going to have to beat out some people to get playing time, same as before.

That said, if he's as good as we think he is, he's very likely going to be the AHL starter (unless there's another move coming we're not yet privy to), and hopefully Makiniemi's going to be his backup; if he's not as good as that, flip those two.

In a perfect world, we trade Petersen, but we don't live in a perfect world.

 

[deadhead]

Peterson is impossible to move, he's a salary dump, pure and simple.
But unlike Johansen, he's smart enough to ride buses for a year for $5M.
There are worse jobs.

 

[SolidSnakeUS]

I don’t think they’ll have a problem scratching Cal if needed, nor do I think Cal will mind getting paid 5 million to do nothing.

Cal sucks. There's no point putting effort into him anymore.

 

[mr figgles]

I don’t think they’ll have a problem scratching Cal if needed, nor do I think Cal will mind getting paid 5 million to do nothing.

Are you sure? They already had problems in that department.

 

[ponder719]

Peterson is impossible to move, he's a salary dump, pure and simple.
But unlike Johansen, he's smart enough to ride buses for a year for $5M.
There are worse jobs.

I don't think there is such a thing as a player impossible to move (barring an NTC/NMC situation), just players you wouldn't be willing to pay enough to justify it, but I do agree with you that Petersen is such a player.

Bright side, his deal expiring means he's Allentown's (and hell, possibly Reading's) problem for one more season, then we're free to misuse that money elsewhere.

 

[Larry44]

Probably opens the door to find a good fit with a KHL team who may need the help if they do that. He’s not going to stick with the Flyers, and they don’t want to play in the AHL

We'll have to see what the agreement was. A real chance to make the Flyers? Accept a role with Phantoms rather than sit out a year? A trade asap? Never a dull moment with Management in Chaos.

 

[trostol]

i think they money they invested in Feds that this will come down to Errson vs this kid for a spot

 

[thedjpd]

What spot did he lose? What spot did he have? We still don't know how this is going to shake out, but I don't get the sense that Kolosov was guaranteed much of anything before this point, and he's still not guaranteed much of anything now. He's going to have to beat out some people to get playing time, same as before.

That said, if he's as good as we think he is, he's very likely going to be the AHL starter (unless there's another move coming we're not yet privy to), and hopefully Makiniemi's going to be his backup; if he's not as good as that, flip those two.

In a perfect world, we trade Petersen, but we don't live in a perfect world.

He was undisputedly going to be the AHL starter, and now he has competition for it. This also had a clear path to the NHL with the unknowns the Flyers have in goal there. No NHL team is going to hand him an NHL starter role, and he just learned that. His option was to sit out and hope a KHL team will fight for him and break the contract terms, or an NHL team will give him an open spot.

No team is going to risk that much for a decent goalie prospect.

 

[freakydallas13]

The Peterson contract really did a number on this team, huh?

 

[deadhead]

The Peterson contract really did a number on this team, huh?

No. It was a salary dump to get a better draft pick.
What a rebuilding team is supposed to do.
Peterson is a non-issue, he's going to take the money and run.

 

[freakydallas13]

No. It was a salary dump to get a better draft pick.
What a rebuilding team is supposed to do.
Peterson is a non-issue, he's going to take the money and run.

You're incorrect, it did in fact do a number on this team.

Rebuilding teams are supposed to trade their 30 year old 4th liners, but the Flyers sure as hell don't do that.

 

[Curufinwe]

Yeah, they actually have three 30-something 4th liners if that's where Laughton ends up.

And they have seven years of combined term!

 

[BackToTheBrierePatch]

You do kind of need three goalies in the AHL. One of them usually gets hurt.

Petersen can ride the pine and collect his cash if necessary. One would hope GMDB would be telling Lappy who to play.

We all know Peterson is going to get a lot of starts in the AHL, younger players be damned. I am sure Lappy believes Peterson gives the Phantoms the best chance to win lol