Pre-Game Talk: Apparently Skinner is starting Game 2

[McTonyBrar]

He's like Desharnais for the Canucks. A double agent. This is my conspiracy until he proves me otherwise.

Im vomiting. How the hell can you compare garbage to a solid top 9 winger?

 

[K1984]

I don't get the J. Skinner love. He doesn't battle hard or do too much out there. We could probably debate that a 4th line of Brown, Janmark, Skinner might be better than dressing Podkolzin, Perry or an injured Frederic but at this point it's a pretty even debate for all the listed players.

The fact people are bitching this hard about J.Skinner getting scratched for Kane shows they are not in true touch with reality or don't full understand the game.

It is true that Jeff Skinner has gotten the short end of the stick this year, but it's not like he's very good.

People rip on Arvidsson for falling over all the time, but that's Skinner too. He skates with a high centre of gravity so he falls over all the time when there's a quick transition or he gets pushed. Although it should have been a penalty, his falling over this way directly lead to goal 2 against. He also can't take a quick stride without raising his arms, leading to more turnovers.

As you say, I am not against playing him and would probably be fine with him replacing Podkolzin or Frederic (who also both sucked in Game 1). It really just ins't the end of the world or as big a deal as many make it out to be. He's a limited one dimensional player.

 

[1981 Oilers]

If Kane plays, I hope he runs Skinner in the pregame warm ups.

MAYBE WE CAN PUT THE OTHER SKINNER IN NETS?

 

[bone]

Several of Smith's Game 1s were ridiculously bad, leading to the notion the team is terrible in Game 1s, but he tended to be good in Game 2 and 3, with setbacks in Games 4 and 5, then great again in Game 6 and 7 (though minuscule sample size)

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Anyone curious about Skinner, here's his breakdown. Generally poor Game 1s as well, and strangely better in even numbered games than odd numbered games.

 

[McBigYak]

If true and Skinner shits the bed we may well have just put the final nail in our cup aspirations this season all of 2 games into the playoffs. IF he does start, he better be on a choke chain not a f***ing leash.

Selfishly there is a tiny part of me that just wants Skinner to get absolutely ran over this playoffs so they actually go out and acquire a goalie.

The other large majority of me just hopes he goes on one of the insane short-term runs he's been known to go through, and we just deal with the fact management will think he's adequate for the remaining years of Drai/McDavids primes.

Painful that management even puts the first thought in my head.

 

[MessierThanThou]

Several of Smith's Game 1s were ridiculously bad, leading to the notion the team is terrible in Game 1s, but he tended to be good in Game 2 and 3, with setbacks in Games 4 and 5, then great again in Game 6 and 7 (though minuscule sample size)

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Yup, it was more like he would have one really bad game and then mostly get his shit together. Skinner started poorly against Vancouver and eventually had to take a couple games off before he could lose the series almost entirely on his own. That sounds like a "lower low" than anything I can see or remember from Smitty.

Anyone curious about Skinner, here's his breakdown. Generally poor Game 1s as well, and strangely better in even numbered games than odd numbered games.

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That looks ugly for poor Stewie, but I guess his career .891 playoff save percentage has to come from somewhere... I hope we don't have to wait until Game 4 to get a good game out of Stu. Like we did against Florida.

 

[Da McBomb]

If E. Kane plays tonight, I fully expect a league investigation tomorrow.

 

[Zerotonine]

I'd rather have Kane playing. He has playoff experience and, if he comes in fully healed, he is much better than Skinner

I'd rather have skinner then pods or arvidsson. I get it off wing but can't be any worse then those 2 pylons

 

[Zerotonine]

Selfishly there is a tiny part of me that just wants Skinner to get absolutely ran over this playoffs so they actually go out and acquire a goalie.

The other large majority of me just hopes he goes on one of the insane short-term runs he's been known to go through, and we just deal with the fact management will think he's adequate for the remaining years of Drai/McDavids primes.

Painful that management even puts the first thought in my head.

You would have to think first round exit puts MANY peoples jobs on the line

Amd in all serious could really jeopardize and make Conor think twice about re-signing with us and really could anyone blame him

 

[Whoshattenkirkshoes]

People rip on Arvidsson for falling over all the time, but that's Skinner too. He skates with a high centre of gravity so he falls over all the time when there's a quick transition or he gets pushed. Although it should have been a penalty, his falling over this way directly lead to goal 2 against. He also can't take a quick stride without raising his arms, leading to more turnovers.

As you say, I am not against playing him and would probably be fine with him replacing Podkolzin or Frederic (who also both sucked in Game 1). It really just ins't the end of the world or as big a deal as many make it out to be. He's a limited one dimensional player.

You make lots of good points, Arvy has been a lot better lately though.

 

[Whoshattenkirkshoes]

You would have to think first round exit puts MANY peoples jobs on the line

Amd in all serious could really jeopardize and make Conor think twice about re-signing with us and really couldnanyone blame him

Connor aint leaving, but in reality JJ and bowman could. What a bad offseason. (worse than Holland who was not good)

 

[russ99]

Ugh, this team never learns. So yay, we'll be down 0-2 when we should have pulled Stu in the second period of game 1.

 

[Whoshattenkirkshoes]

I'd rather have skinner then pods or arvidsson. I get it off wing but can't be any worse then those 2 pylons

Jeff SKinner is not better than Arvy. I don't really know how this narrative has started

We clearly need Arvy to be better, but he has shown promise.

 

[Zerotonine]

Ugh, this team never learns. So yay, we'll be down 0-2 when we should have pulled Stu in the second period of game 1.

Crazy part is ee seem to really flip the switch when Pickard comes in when Skinner is pulled

 

[Heavy Dee]

 

[russ99]

You would have to think first round exit puts MANY peoples jobs on the line

Amd in all serious could really jeopardize and make Conor think twice about re-signing with us and really could anyone blame him

I'd be willing to bet Bowman starts looking for another coach when Connor signs.

Don't rock the boat till then.

 

[russ99]

Walman - Klingberg?

Good luck Stu, you're gonna need it.

 

[Zerotonine]

Jeff SKinner is not better than Arvy. I don't really know how this narrative has started

We clearly need Arvy to be better, but he has shown promise.

The general eye test amd statistically he is better. When you account in linemates as well as TOI between the 2 and the gap widens for skinner

 

[Whoshattenkirkshoes]

Will Mcdavid and Leon be playing together to start the game?

I do not get how you could not do this after how they looked last game?

Pros:
-LA kings cant zero in on one of them
- They don't have to work as hard/ get less attention
- Maybe we can get a lead and split them so we don't have to play from behind.
- Less chance they get hurt or beat up playing together

We literally don't have the Wingers to split them.

If we don't play them together after last game then I don't really know anymore

 

[Drivesaitl]

I don't get the J. Skinner love. He doesn't battle hard or do too much out there. We could probably debate that a 4th line of Brown, Janmark, Skinner might be better than dressing Podkolzin, Perry or an injured Frederic but at this point it's a pretty even debate for all the listed players.

The fact people are bitching this hard about J.Skinner getting scratched for Kane shows they are not in true touch with reality or don't full understand the game.

It is true that Jeff Skinner has gotten the short end of the stick this year, but it's not like he's very good.

I don't get it either. Like I said on ice for 3GA in the first game in his first 7mins of play. Thats loathsome. he was even elevated with McD for half of his minutes and not a sniff. Oilers didn't get clicking until they punched McDrai and Perry has been MUCH more effective with those two even at age 40. If theres ever an indictment on J Skinner its that Perry is cleaning up well.

 

[MessierThanThou]

Crazy part is ee seem to really flip the switch when Pickard comes in when Skinner is pulled

Pickard is definitely the steadier hand. Skinner might have "higher highs" but those have become more and more rare...

 

[Drivesaitl]

Will Mcdavid and Leon be playing together to start the game?

I do not get how you could not do this after how they looked last game?

Pros:
-LA kings cant zero in on one of them
- They don't have to work as hard/ get less attention
- Maybe we can get a lead and split them so we don't have to play from behind.
- Less chance they get hurt or beat up playing together

We literally don't have the Wingers to split them.

If we don't play them together after last game then I don't really know anymore

KK doesn't get much credit but pushing McD button late in 2nd period was a possible gold strike. The furied Kings had spent the first two periods desperately trying to stop everything and expending so much energy. So that in effect we paired a relatively rested McDrai at the point where the Kings were tiring. It was some 4D, great timing actually.

Its quite clear the Kings can't contain McDrai paired and that no lead is safe for them. I think its a mistake to start with them. Save it for mid game if nothing else is working.

 

[Louis Cypher]

Kane and

Kane and Savoie maybe?

No chance they bring Savoie up.

 

[Whoshattenkirkshoes]

The general eye test amd statistically he is better. When you account in linemates as well as TOI between the 2 and the gap widens for skinner

There is a reason Skinner gets scratched and that is because he is not good at hockey. Terrible signing that cost us our young tallent

 

[Drivesaitl]

Jeff SKinner is not better than Arvy. I don't really know how this narrative has started

We clearly need Arvy to be better, but he has shown promise.

Skinner has been better than Arviddson. The rub is that this is no compliment at all.