Anyone ever been a hockey billet family? Any advice?

[Yukon Joe]

OK, so my family has hosted students (non-hockey) for several years. They've mostly been 16 year-olds, grade 11 from overseas (Spain, Germany, Japan).

I have a meeting shortly about being a billet family for a Junior A hockey player (Don't want to get into league/team just to preserve any future kid's privacy).

Anyone ever done this before? Any advice/suggestions/questions to ask?

My one concern is that although we're not doing it to make money, it's might be a lot of "but you can get free tickets!" in terms of covering costs. Secondly though - having a presumably 18+ hockey player I don't know to what extent we can ensure a certain base level of house rules, compared to a 16 year old European. Things like no obvious drinking/parties/girls.

I'm also slightly worried about even more stinky hockey gear in my basement, but since we already have 3 hockey players in the house (albeit not at that level) I'm sure we can manage.

p.s. I typed this out, forgot to his "post", had the meeting. Sounds promising, but still interested in any feedback.

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[jetsmooseice]

A couple acquaintances of mine were billet hosts for the Winnipeg ICE. They had nothing but good things to say about the experience. The players they hosted really bonded with the families.

Based on what I heard from them, I wanted to do it but I never took that step given that my house is not really set up for it. I have used the basement bedroom as an office since the pandemic, and I do not have a bathroom in the basement (the only full bathrooms in my house are upstairs, next to my/my kids' bedrooms). One of the acquaintances told me not to worry, that most of the players were not living in luxury, but it just seemed like an awkward fit. Had being a billet host crossed my mind when we bought our current house in 2017, I would have definitely looked for a house that was a bit better equipped for it - at the time I didn't want a house with a basement that would be too inviting for my mother in law, haha.

 

[jetsmooseice]

I'm nowhere near Florida, but good luck in finding the billet.

We're actually set to be a billet family here in Edmonton for a Junior A team this winter - looking forward to the experience. I just finished getting the spare room all cleaned up tonight.

It looks like you decided to become a billet host... I'm curious, what ultimately made you pull the trigger and open up your home?

Keep us posted as to how your experience this season goes!

 

[Yukon Joe]

It looks like you decided to become a billet host... I'm curious, what ultimately made you pull the trigger and open up your home?

Keep us posted as to how your experience this season goes!

So the most obvious reason - we've been hosting international students for the past 5 years or so. We have a bedroom and bathroom already set up. We were informed however that the local highschool was too full this coming year so they wouldn't be taking any international students.

So this isn't a huge change for us. We've found the international students to be a welcome addition to our home.

So the only new thing is this person will probably not be in high school, so a little bit older, and of course is a hockey player. We're pretty much a hockey family, so this is not some massive change for us.

Biggest thing is I'm told this person will have a vehicle - which is good so less driving them around, but will be more congested in the driveway with three vehicles.

 

[oldunclehue]

My family has billeted Junior players for the last ten years, its been great the entire time. Since my playing days the billet kids have changed drastically, they are much more family oriented, don't really party or have any bad vices or cause problems. Most who make it to Junior A now come from have families and are focused to try and do something with the sport. We've had nothing but good experiences (except when they get traded kids get emotional) but otherwise its been amazing.

Basically for us, we make sure there is food readily available, they fend for themselves for breakfast and lunch as we are at work, then supper we do as a family unless its a game day.

Your concerns: Partying: set the rules, we don't allow parties at our house. But most players are more focused on their future that they rarely do party.

Stinky gear: Once the team is made, every Junior A team I know has their own dressing room so gear rarely if ever comes home. During camp its August and the hockey gear can air out on the deck.

Vehicle wise: We've had ones with a vehicle and ones without, team usually tells the players they are responsible for getting to the rink, catch a ride with a teammate, walk, bike, but billets are never required to provide transportation or lend out vehicles.

My main advice is to write out the ground rules ahead of time, I have a rule that I will not lie for a curfew check, no partying or random girls over (girlfriends long term are allowed), once the kids are in bed its quiet time in the house and clean up after yourself as we arent their maids.

I'd say go for it, explain to the billet coordinator that you are hoping for a kid that fits for your family, set the rules off the bat and don't waiver, enjoy the times your kids and family will have,

 

[jetsmooseice]

My family has billeted Junior players for the last ten years, its been great the entire time. Since my playing days the billet kids have changed drastically, they are much more family oriented, don't really party or have any bad vices or cause problems. Most who make it to Junior A now come from have families and are focused to try and do something with the sport. We've had nothing but good experiences (except when they get traded kids get emotional) but otherwise its been amazing.

To add to my earlier post about the ICE billets I talked to, your comment is consistent with that... the billet hosts I spoke with said that their billet players were intensely disciplined and focused, very early-to-bed and early-to-rise, clean living types. No issues whatsoever on that front, which is I guess to be expected when you are dealing with people near the top of the hockey food chain.

I realize that not all players are going to be exactly that way but on the whole it sounds like a far cry from the hard-partying days of the 80s.

In some ways I think I'd be feeling some pressure to up my game on the cooking front to make sure the meals meet the dietary needs of the players. No more chicken fingers and fries in the air fryer on those nights when you don't have the time or inclination to cook

 

[The Crypto Guy]

Don't get the whole appeal of wanting some 18 year old kid in your house and taking away all your privacy. I guess they must pay pretty well...?

 

[Buffdog]

A good friend whose daughter played on my daughter's prep team billeted a player from out of province.

They had to send her home halfway through her second (grade 11) season

Lying about where she was/what she was doing/who she was with, drinking, weed, sneaking boys into the house, etc...

They're one of the nicest families I know and it was a huge stressor for them

 

[oldunclehue]

Don't get the whole appeal of wanting some 18 year old kid in your house and taking away all your privacy. I guess they must pay pretty well...?

We do it as my wife and I were both billeted when we played hockey, I very much appreciated it and had fond memories of the good billets and horrible memories of the bad ones only in it for money.

We lose money on it in the long run but my kids love it and like I said it is kind of a payback because we can

 

[Yukon Joe]

Don't get the whole appeal of wanting some 18 year old kid in your house and taking away all your privacy. I guess they must pay pretty well...?

OK, so my player is 19, they definitely don't pay well - this is not a money making exercise,

(Like really - as I mentioned we've had international students in grade 11 (so 16 years old) the past few years, and the Junior A team pays noticeably less than they did).

So look - I'm a Winnipeg Jets fan, living in Edmonton. Several years ago I took my kid to a Jets v oilers pre-season game (you can get pre-season tix super cheap). We got there early, walked around the concourse, and I saw Jets GM Kevin Cheveldayoff standing there. At first I gave him his privacy, but as my kid walked around again and I saw saw Chevy again I couldn't resist but go up and say "hi". I didn't take up much of his time but he said he was there to visit his former billet family from back in the day.

So as I said we've had former international students. We still keep in touch with most of them. They lived with us for an entire school year, they become almost part of the family. I have my own kids who I love dearly - but I also have this whole other group of "my" kids around the world.

I spoke with our player just the other day. He gets here next week. I want to protect his privacy so I'll try to save any personal details. He seems like a really nice kid over the phone. I'll agree that him being a 19 year old hockey player (and not a 16 year old girl from overseas) is going to be an adjustment for us. We're willing to not just give him a room to stay, but welcome him into our family for the year. If he's willing to accept us on that basis though I think it'll be a great year.

 

[oldunclehue]

OK, so my player is 19, they definitely don't pay well - this is not a money making exercise,

(Like really - as I mentioned we've had international students in grade 11 (so 16 years old) the past few years, and the Junior A team pays noticeably less than they did).

So look - I'm a Winnipeg Jets fan, living in Edmonton. Several years ago I took my kid to a Jets v oilers pre-season game (you can get pre-season tix super cheap). We got there early, walked around the concourse, and I saw Jets GM Kevin Cheveldayoff standing there. At first I gave him his privacy, but as my kid walked around again and I saw saw Chevy again I couldn't resist but go up and say "hi". I didn't take up much of his time but he said he was there to visit his former billet family from back in the day.

So as I said we've had former international students. We still keep in touch with most of them. They lived with us for an entire school year, they become almost part of the family. I have my own kids who I love dearly - but I also have this whole other group of "my" kids around the world.

I spoke with our player just the other day. He gets here next week. I want to protect his privacy so I'll try to save any personal details. He seems like a really nice kid over the phone. I'll agree that him being a 19 year old hockey player (and not a 16 year old girl from overseas) is going to be an adjustment for us. We're willing to not just give him a room to stay, but welcome him into our family for the year. If he's willing to accept us on that basis though I think it'll be a great year.

Great attitude to have, like I said we’ve billeted hockey players for nearly 10 years. Haven’t had any bad experiences, kids have changed a lot since I played in the late 90’s. We used to drink a lot, gamble, skip curfew and rarely did much with the kids….i regret that but it was kind of the times….at 18 I was much more independent then the kids are now.

Now kids are so focused on making something of hockey that they eat healthy, rarely drink, some use weed but we have a rule of no smoking in the house. Most are very family oriented and love hanging out with the family.

It’s not for everyone….but it’s a little thing we can do to give back to the sport as we went through it as well.

Good luck and keep us updated on how it’s going!

 

[oldunclehue]

OK, so my player is 19, they definitely don't pay well - this is not a money making exercise,

(Like really - as I mentioned we've had international students in grade 11 (so 16 years old) the past few years, and the Junior A team pays noticeably less than they did).

So look - I'm a Winnipeg Jets fan, living in Edmonton. Several years ago I took my kid to a Jets v oilers pre-season game (you can get pre-season tix super cheap). We got there early, walked around the concourse, and I saw Jets GM Kevin Cheveldayoff standing there. At first I gave him his privacy, but as my kid walked around again and I saw saw Chevy again I couldn't resist but go up and say "hi". I didn't take up much of his time but he said he was there to visit his former billet family from back in the day.

So as I said we've had former international students. We still keep in touch with most of them. They lived with us for an entire school year, they become almost part of the family. I have my own kids who I love dearly - but I also have this whole other group of "my" kids around the world.

I spoke with our player just the other day. He gets here next week. I want to protect his privacy so I'll try to save any personal details. He seems like a really nice kid over the phone. I'll agree that him being a 19 year old hockey player (and not a 16 year old girl from overseas) is going to be an adjustment for us. We're willing to not just give him a room to stay, but welcome him into our family for the year. If he's willing to accept us on that basis though I think it'll be a great year.

Hows the billeting going so far?

 

[Yukon Joe]

Hows the billeting going so far?

Not much to say. He's a super nice, super polite kid. Well I hesitate to say "kid", as he's 19, has his own car, he's pretty much a man.

I want to be very careful because he's not my "kid", I don't want to break his privacy.

This kid eats A LOT. Very healthy eater, but the amount of protein he can put away is almost impressive. And a probably related observation - this kid is pretty jacked! He's not tall, but pretty built.

He's super respectful. He came to one of my kid's tryouts. I went to one of his games - like I know Junior A is a high level hockey, but he's really good even at that level. I was super impressed at his ability.

Hockey gear has actually been an issue, eve after the team assured me it wouldn't be. There's an issue with the team facilities, so he's had to bring his gear home (not his fault!). So he is great about airing it out all the time, but it has been an extra set of hockey gear lying around the basement. At least (unlike my own kids) I don't have to remind him to air it out. But still - at times it can be four sets of hockey gear fighting for room to air out.

My one and only "negative" - he's 19 years old. He's not going to make the NHL. His ambition is next year to make it to a college or university, either US or Canada. Great plan. But while his hockey career is pretty intensive, if I was his dad I would have encouraged him to be taking an online course or two to just keep his study habits sharp.

 

[jetsmooseice]

This kid eats A LOT. Very healthy eater, but the amount of protein he can put away is almost impressive. And a probably related observation - this kid is pretty jacked! He's not tall, but pretty built.

Curious about the food issue here...

-Does he eat family meals, or does he look after his own food?
-If it's the former, have you changed the kind of food you eat to help meet the nutritional needs of an athlete?
-Is there a stipend to assist with food costs? Having a big-eating 19 year old could certainly leave a mark on the household food budget.

I feel like if I ever was a billet host I'd have to up my game nutritionally. There are some nights where we're in a rush so the Mrs. and I eat leftovers and the kids just get chicken nugs and Superfries out of the air fryer. I'm guessing that won't fly when you have someone with specific food requirements under your roof, haha

 

[Yukon Joe]

Curious about the food issue here...

-Does he eat family meals, or does he look after his own food?
-If it's the former, have you changed the kind of food you eat to help meet the nutritional needs of an athlete?
-Is there a stipend to assist with food costs? Having a big-eating 19 year old could certainly leave a mark on the household food budget.

I feel like if I ever was a billet host I'd have to up my game nutritionally. There are some nights where we're in a rush so the Mrs. and I eat leftovers and the kids just get chicken nugs and Superfries out of the air fryer. I'm guessing that won't fly when you have someone with specific food requirements under your roof, haha

So he's on his own for breakfast / lunch from what's in the house. We eat family meals for dinner. I think we eat reasonably healthy to begin with (pretty uncommon to maybe order pizza, never order fast food for the family). He likes chicken and pasta on game days so we've tried to do that - except he can put down a lot of chicken so we've had to adjust the amount we cook.

That being said if we do have enough leftovers there's nothing wrong with leftovers for supper. And yes, when my kids were younger (and much pickier eaters) making them chicken nuggets and fries was pretty regular. To be honest they'd still probably be very happy with chicken nuggets and fries, but because they also east a lot more it would no longer be a very cheap meal.

We get $500 / month as a stipend for room and board. Honestly I don't think it fully covers the cost but it does help. It is nice that he's self-sufficient so we don't have to worry about driving him around and he pays for his own gas.

 

[SEALBound]

I was never a billet family, but I know plenty of guys who were players in a billet family.

There are plenty of really great experiences that I know of, but there are also occasional bad ones. Some of the things I remember from the bad ones were more focused on the billet family believing it was their job to be the "strict parents" and not a billet family if that makes sense. I remember one guy having to move out because the billet family parents kept trying to "ground him" for various things that were...odd...when it came to housing an 18yo hockey player - home "late" after games, not liking a girl he was seeing, and once for not mowing the lawn on a weekend where there was a road game. The coach even called and tried to explain that it's not their "job" to tell the guy he can't go to practice because he's grounded. It got pretty weird pretty quickly.

Minor help around the house is fine but they are not "free labor" like your kids may be. The other bad one was when the billet family owned a plumbing business and viewed the kid as a free employee. He graciously helped a few times without being paid until he ranted about it one time to the group and we were all like "Oh yeah no, that's not the way this is supposed to go". After he moved out, several months later, he got a call from a lady who was mad because something was leaking. Apparently, the father had given the lady his cell phone as an "on-call" backup.

So yeah, avoid those types of ideas and you'll probably be fine. Remember, it's a teenager that's focused on hockey.

 

[Golden_Jet]

Neighbor did it, always had 2 billets, and got some money for food, but they ate more than the food allowance they got, but they didn’t mind.

Would go to the ODR and play some shinny with them.

 

[McGarnagle]

Well, I've seen Youngblood and you could learn some things from Miss McGill.

 

[Yukon Joe]

So, my billet was traded out of town. It's the harsh reality of junior hockey I guess. He thought it might happen (team is not doing well), but figured it might happen after Christmas. But 24 hours after getting the call - he's gone. It's not his first trade so he pretty business-like about it. We're sorry to see him go.

But then another 24 hours later I get another call - would we host a new kid? Can he come today?

We had to say "err, how about tomorrow" because we still haven't completely cleaned the room (it's tidy, but new guy deserves a proper clean room).

So I guess we're going through this all over again.

 

[Yukon Joe]

My 2010 kid's team is doing a parents/coaches versus kids hockey game tonight.

It's a fairly standard sort of thing for kid's hockey. When the kids were younger of course parents could just out-smart the kids by being effective passers. But as these kids are now much bigger that no longer works. At a similar game last year the kids just treated the parents as pylons and were show-boating last night.

So this year - I'm bringing in our billet player.

Both our billet, and my kid, seem excited at the idea. At this point my kid could care less about playing against me - but he does want to see how he stacks up against an 18 year old Junior A player.