Anyone else miss the Papa John's promotion?

[SnowblindNYR]

I know it's stupid but every time we'd score 3 goals I'd look forward to the Papa John's 3rd goal replays. They made us scoring a decent amount of goals that much better.

On a related note, anyone knows why they stopped them? Was it the controversy with the CEO? If so, why? They got rid of him after that.

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[I Eat Crow]

Something about the CEO being a human piece of garbage I think.

Only Sam Rosen misses the promotion.

 

[haohmaru]

Anyone living in NY eating Papa John's should be immediately flogged with a wet noodle.

 

[Machinehead]

 

[SnowblindNYR]

Something about the CEO being a human piece of garbage I think.

Only Sam Rosen misses the promotion.

Didn't he step down?

Also, why can't I change the title?

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

Do they not do the promotion anymore?

I was under the impression they still did...

 

[nyr2k2]

Anyone living in NY eating Papa John's should be immediately flogged with a wet noodle.

You know, I learned this when I spent months campaigning in Illinois and eating "Chicago-style" pizza: if you accept what you're eating isn't real pizza, but is an entirely different dish that goes by the same name, it can actually be quite good. Papa John's, if you try some of their novelty stuff, buffalo chicken whatever, cheeseburger whatever, all the f***ing meats whatever, they're not bad! Again, you have to get past the fact that it's not really pizza, and then some of it becomes enjoyable.

There's also the fact that what you'd get back in Italy can be substantially different than the kind of pie you'd be accustomed to getting from the joint on the corner. It's more like what you'd get from some "artisanal" joint up in New Haven. So I grew up with Mario's and Ralph's in Bayville, on the Island, but that's not even "real" if you go back in pizza history.

Spending 20 years out of NY kinda opened my eyes. Some of the Chicago stuff, New Haven, Buffalo, Neopolitan style, it's all really good when done right. It's not "real" to me, to varying degrees, but it's good. I've even found some joints in DC/MD/VA ("The DMV") that I really enjoy and even my still-snob Brooklyn-born father approves of. None of it is Papa John's or Domino's, but it's the same kinda principle.

However, do not eat "Detroit-style" pizza, or "Cleveland-style." And NEVER even CONSIDER eating St. Louis style, which is worse than a pie from pizza hut that fell on the floor at a barber shop.

 

[nyr2k2]

Didn't he step down?

Also, why can't I change the title?

He stepped down from one position and then was forcibly removed from another. Like I think he resigned as president and was removed as CEO, but I'm not certain. I believe it was on a phone call with his leadership team talking about stepping down where he said more awful things that became public and he was forced out. And he's fighting it now, last I read. Lots of impending litigation.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

He stepped down from one position and then was forcibly removed from another. Like I think he resigned as president and was removed as CEO, but I'm not certain. I believe it was on a phone call with his leadership team talking about stepping down where he said more awful things that became public and he was forced out. And he's fighting it now, last I read. Lots of impending litigation.

So why would the Rangers end their partnership with them then? He's not there anymore. Maybe it was done on Papa John's end?

 

[Filthy Dangles]

 

[I Eat Crow]

You know, I learned this when I spent months campaigning in Illinois and eating "Chicago-style" pizza: if you accept what you're eating isn't real pizza, but is an entirely different dish that goes by the same name, it can actually be quite good. Papa John's, if you try some of their novelty stuff, buffalo chicken whatever, cheeseburger whatever, all the ****ing meats whatever, they're not bad! Again, you have to get past the fact that it's not really pizza, and then some of it becomes enjoyable.

There's also the fact that what you'd get back in Italy can be substantially different than the kind of pie you'd be accustomed to getting from the joint on the corner. It's more like what you'd get from some "artisanal" joint up in New Haven. So I grew up with Mario's and Ralph's in Bayville, on the Island, but that's not even "real" if you go back in pizza history.

Spending 20 years out of NY kinda opened my eyes. Some of the Chicago stuff, New Haven, Buffalo, Neopolitan style, it's all really good when done right. It's not "real" to me, to varying degrees, but it's good. I've even found some joints in DC/MD/VA ("The DMV") that I really enjoy and even my still-snob Brooklyn-born father approves of. None of it is Papa John's or Domino's, but it's the same kinda principle.

However, do not eat "Detroit-style" pizza, or "Cleveland-style." And NEVER even CONSIDER eating St. Louis style, which is worse than a pie from pizza hut that fell on the floor at a barber shop.

New Haven apizza is my favorite type of pizza.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

Anyone living in NY eating Papa John's should be immediately flogged with a wet noodle.

I lived in Philly for a year. It's close to NY, has a lot of Italians living there, outside of (oddly) my job's cafeteria I've had good pizza maybe once or twice. It was so awful. As far as Papa John's, I spent 2 years eating that shit in grad school, it's awful.

 

[haohmaru]

I lived in Philly for a year. It's close to NY, has a lot of Italians living there, outside of (oddly) my job's cafeteria I've had good pizza maybe once or twice. It was so awful. As far as Papa John's, I spent 2 years eating that **** in grad school, it's awful.

I live in Florida (now) and there's a few things I miss about NY:

Pizza
Bagels
NYR games @ MSG

And that's about it.

 

[SA16]

We are no longer ready to consume the pizza

 

[Chaels Arms]

You know, I learned this when I spent months campaigning in Illinois and eating "Chicago-style" pizza: if you accept what you're eating isn't real pizza, but is an entirely different dish that goes by the same name, it can actually be quite good. Papa John's, if you try some of their novelty stuff, buffalo chicken whatever, cheeseburger whatever, all the ****ing meats whatever, they're not bad! Again, you have to get past the fact that it's not really pizza, and then some of it becomes enjoyable.

There's also the fact that what you'd get back in Italy can be substantially different than the kind of pie you'd be accustomed to getting from the joint on the corner. It's more like what you'd get from some "artisanal" joint up in New Haven. So I grew up with Mario's and Ralph's in Bayville, on the Island, but that's not even "real" if you go back in pizza history.

Spending 20 years out of NY kinda opened my eyes. Some of the Chicago stuff, New Haven, Buffalo, Neopolitan style, it's all really good when done right. It's not "real" to me, to varying degrees, but it's good. I've even found some joints in DC/MD/VA ("The DMV") that I really enjoy and even my still-snob Brooklyn-born father approves of. None of it is Papa John's or Domino's, but it's the same kinda principle.

However, do not eat "Detroit-style" pizza, or "Cleveland-style." And NEVER even CONSIDER eating St. Louis style, which is worse than a pie from pizza hut that fell on the floor at a barber shop.

It's not about "realness" it's about knowing what you're eating and being able to discern whether or not it's accomplishing what it's supposed to accomplish. I don't care what kind of style pizza I'm eating. I can tell whether or not it's done properly.

Emmy Squared in Brooklyn does Detroit style pizza. It's heavenly. Go there then swing by Paulie Gee's Slice Shop for an awesome NY classic slice. Paulie Gee's Slice Shop is very similar to Joe's on Carmine Street and Patsy's in Harlem. Just a great NY slice.

The pizza you're getting at Lucali is not the same as the pizza you're getting at Patsy's in Harlem or Joe's on Carmine. All three are amazing but they're not the same.

Sallys Apizza is top ten even if you're including NY pizza. It's also much better then Pepe's. I tend to just include the New Haven spots when I'm discussing NY pizza. Yes, the shape and crust are different but it's not as drastic a departure as Detroit or Chicago style.

In truth, most people in NY don't even know what they're talking about when it comes to pizza. People in my neighborhood will swear by the place on the corner not because it's actually good but because it's just the place they've always went to out of convenience. They'll tell you it's the best and then you ask, have you ever had Di Fara? Patsy's in Harlem? Lucali? Johnny's in Mount Vernon? Joe's on Carmine? John's on Bleecker? and they'll stare at you like you have five heads.

The problem with eating Papa John's in NYC isn't that you're eating trashy pizza. The problem is that you're eating the second best version of trashy pizza after Dominos. Dominos is better then Papa John's in every single way so if you're in the mood for that (or stoned) you're better off with Dominos every single time. Papa John's is just terrible. Plus, when it comes to delivery efficiency I never cease to be amazed at how good Dominos is. Always here fast, the order is always exactly correct and they keep you updated through every step of the process. Pretty nice delivery people too in my experience here.

/rant

 

[Calad]

We are ready to consume the pizza!!

 

[eco's bones]

It's not about "realness" it's about knowing what you're eating and being able to discern whether or not it's accomplishing what it's supposed to accomplish. I don't care what kind of style pizza I'm eating. I can tell whether or not it's done properly.

Emmy Squared in Brooklyn does Detroit style pizza. It's heavenly. Go there then swing by Paulie Gee's Slice Shop for an awesome NY classic slice. Paulie Gee's Slice Shop is very similar to Joe's on Carmine Street and Patsy's in Harlem. Just a great NY slice.

The pizza you're getting at Lucali is not the same as the pizza you're getting at Patsy's in Harlem or Joe's on Carmine. All three are amazing but they're not the same.

Sallys Apizza is top ten even if you're including NY pizza. It's also much better then Pepe's. I tend to just include the New Haven spots when I'm discussing NY pizza. Yes, the shape and crust are different but it's not as drastic a departure as Detroit or Chicago style.

In truth, most people in NY don't even know what they're talking about when it comes to pizza. People in my neighborhood will swear by the place on the corner not because it's actually good but because it's just the place they've always went to out of convenience. They'll tell you it's the best and then you ask, have you ever had Di Fara? Patsy's in Harlem? Lucali? Johnny's in Mount Vernon? Joe's on Carmine? John's on Bleecker? and they'll stare at you like you have five heads.

The problem with eating Papa John's in NYC isn't that you're eating trashy pizza. The problem is that you're eating the second best version of trashy pizza after Dominos. Dominos is better then Papa John's in every single way so if you're in the mood for that (or stoned) you're better off with Dominos every single time. Papa John's is just terrible. Plus, when it comes to delivery efficiency I never cease to be amazed at how good Dominos is. Always here fast, the order is always exactly correct and they keep you updated through every step of the process. Pretty nice delivery people too in my experience here.

/rant

I almost always like rants.

 

[ReggieDunlop68]

I almost always like rants.

Do you not like Pizza or do you disagree that the Pizza you're getting at Lucali is not the same as the Pizza you're getting at Patsy's in Harlem or Joe's on Carmine ?

 

[ReggieDunlop68]

You know, I learned this when I spent months campaigning in Illinois and eating "Chicago-style" pizza: if you accept what you're eating isn't real pizza, but is an entirely different dish that goes by the same name, it can actually be quite good. Papa John's, if you try some of their novelty stuff, buffalo chicken whatever, cheeseburger whatever, all the ****ing meats whatever, they're not bad! Again, you have to get past the fact that it's not really pizza, and then some of it becomes enjoyable.

There's also the fact that what you'd get back in Italy can be substantially different than the kind of pie you'd be accustomed to getting from the joint on the corner. It's more like what you'd get from some "artisanal" joint up in New Haven. So I grew up with Mario's and Ralph's in Bayville, on the Island, but that's not even "real" if you go back in pizza history.

Spending 20 years out of NY kinda opened my eyes. Some of the Chicago stuff, New Haven, Buffalo, Neopolitan style, it's all really good when done right. It's not "real" to me, to varying degrees, but it's good. I've even found some joints in DC/MD/VA ("The DMV") that I really enjoy and even my still-snob Brooklyn-born father approves of. None of it is Papa John's or Domino's, but it's the same kinda principle.

However, do not eat "Detroit-style" pizza, or "Cleveland-style." And NEVER even CONSIDER eating St. Louis style, which is worse than a pie from pizza hut that fell on the floor at a barber shop.

What is Cleveland style Pizza?

 

[haohmaru]

What is Cleveland style Pizza?

One of the five worst regional pizzas in the entire country, apparently.

The Five Worst Regional Pizzas In America

I mean, just look at that Ohio-valley "thing" calling itself pizza. Horrendous.

 

[Good Intentions]

Papa Johns isn't pizza. You're better off not consuming that shit, ever.

 

[eco's bones]

Do you not like Pizza or do you disagree that the Pizza you're getting at Lucali is not the same as the Pizza you're getting at Patsy's in Harlem or Joe's on Carmine ?

I like reading about pizza but I haven't lived in the NYC area since the mid 1980's. I'm upstate. Any case I don't like chain pizza joints and especially those run by non-Italian right wingers. But if I had to pick a favorite pizza place anywhere it would be this hole in the wall place in a strip mall called Jimmy's Pizza in Dartmouth Mass. When I was in the Coast Guard I use to go there all the time and whenever we're out in that general area I always hit that place. Though that family isn't Italian--it's Greek. Got to have the right cheese--the sauce has to have a good tang and you got to make it crispy without burning the shit out of it.

 

[ReggieDunlop68]

I like reading about pizza but I haven't lived in the NYC area since the mid 1980's. I'm upstate. Any case I don't like chain pizza joints and especially those run by non-Italian right wingers. But if I had to pick a favorite pizza place anywhere it would be this hole in the wall place in a strip mall called Jimmy's Pizza in Dartmouth Mass. When I was in the Coast Guard I use to go there all the time and whenever we're out in that general area I always hit that place. Though that family isn't Italian--it's Greek. Got to have the right cheese--the sauce has to have a good tang and you got to make it crispy without burning the **** out of it.

So it’s not that you don’t like Pizza. It’s that you are such a well traveled pizza connoisseur that discussing local pizza dives made you chuckle at the plebs.

 

[ReggieDunlop68]

Papa Johns isn't pizza. You're better off not consuming that ****, ever.

This.

I’ve tried to explain to people just because an object consists of matter that matter can be rearranged in space to mimic another object [Pizza] yet not be Pizza and still not violate the laws of conservation of mass or cause be a paradox.

It’s probably best that Sam is no longer ready to consume the pizza.

 

[bobbop]

Probably time for me to offer my two cents here.

I am a native New Yorker (Long Island) and there is nothing like New York pizza. Nothing.

I worked for Papa John's for four years and I was involved in the beginning (not the culmination) of the negotiations to tie Papa John's to the Rangers. Papa John's makes a good commercial pizza that is better suited for the tastes of mid America. Outside of the Northeast and Chicago, pizza is pretty much the same throughout the country. Papa John's uses very good ingredients and has very good operational procedures. It is a different taste and flavor profile than what most of us grew up with. It is also why companies like Papa John's and Pizza Hut (where I worked for 18 years) do poorly in the Northeast. It's not bad pizza, it's just not our kind of pizza.

And as for John, I know him well and he is a great guy. He treated me with respect and was very kind to my family. I never once saw him say or do anything remotely racist or bigoted (and I had plenty of opportunity to observe) I know far too much background about what was said and not said about health care and racist terms to share here but I can tell you with great confidence that what has been written and said about him is badly exaggerated and simply not reflective of the man.