Any interest in Buff?

[VictoriaJetsFan]

Jets fan coming in peace....

We are having a lively discussion over on the jets board about Dustin Byfuglien....

Some of our fan base thinks the jackets are a potential trade partner and your in a win soon mode..

Are we imagining things or is that true..Would you have any interest?

Thank You

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[WannabeFinn]

I think we'd have interest. Big bodied, physical, right handed, can put up the points. It's like taking the best traits of Prout and Wisniewski and combining them.

 

[Theo Von]

We certainly have a need for a top pairing defenseman. You will see a change to the Jackets blueline before next season gets rolling, Jarmo has stated it himself recently. The price would be very steep to acquire Dustin. Keep in mind the Jackets have a plethora of 2nd round picks in the upcoming draft. The first round pick would be off the table. Maybe a 2016 1st, but not this year's first. Plus with Jarmo being a draft specialist, I can barely see him ever giving up a 1st round pick.

Curious what your base starting point would be. What would you want in return?

 

[blahblah]

Meh he's 29 with one year left on his deal. I wouldn't give up a ton. I doubt there is any discussion between our franchises for this player.

 

[CBJx614]

Looking at the Jets board, Murray is the nonstarter, and im pretty sure so is the 2015 1st. So with that being said i dont think theres a deal to made, even if it would help the franchise. The players and pieces WPG would want we wouldn't be willing to give up.

 

[CBJWerenski8]

Nope

 

[Jackets16]

Jets fan coming in peace....

We are having a lively discussion over on the jets board about Dustin Byfuglien....

Some of our fan base thinks the jackets are a potential trade partner and your in a win soon mode..

Are we imagining things or is that true..Would you have any interest?

Thank You

None

 

[pete goegan]

Interest? Yes. The willingness to give up what would be necessary? I don't think so.

 

[blahblah]

Looking at the Jets board, Murray is the nonstarter, and im pretty sure so is the 2015 1st. So with that being said i dont think theres a deal to made, even if it would help the franchise. The players and pieces WPG would want we wouldn't be willing to give up.

You do realize that the Jets board would have absolutely no input on a potential deal so mentioning what they think is beyond meaningless right?

 

[CBJx614]

You do realize that the Jets board would have absolutely no input on a potential deal so mentioning what they think is beyond meaningless right?

As is what we say. .

But given that we are conversating with someone from the Jets board it's not meaningless. These whole boards must be meaningless since none of the NHL management use the boards for their decisions then huh?

He asked what our thoughts were, i checked to see what they were thinking and responded with my opinion. I don't expect my opinion to be used as the basis for an actual NHL deal. . .

 

[JacketFanInFL]

No..

 

[major major]

Yes. A lot of interest. I just stated this in the summer thread, but acquiring Buff could be alot like when the Bruins signed Chara. We certainly have the need and the pieces. I'm not so much concerned about the package we give up in the trade (although Murray and the 2015 1st are off the table), as I'm tracking whether we sign Buff long term. I'm guessing it'll be like the Chara deal in $ and term, and hopefully in results.

1. It has to be a sign-and-trade.
2. For less than $8m a year, or perhaps a tad over if the term is around 5 years. Maybe.
3. No Murray or 2015 first.

And for those Jacket fans saying they're not interested, I have to ask, you do know that Buff has gotten alot better at defense over the years? For the month of January I don't think it's a stretch to say he was the best D-man in the league. And you do know that our best right side defender is David Savard, not a real top pair guy? And that typically there isn't a single top pair RHD that hits UFA in a given year? And there isn't even one sure-bet RHD in this whole draft.

 

[blahblah]

As is what we say. .

But given that we are conversating with someone from the Jets board it's not meaningless. These whole boards must be meaningless since none of the NHL management use the boards for their decisions then huh?

What I'm saying is; don't phrase what fans say as something of any meaning. You stated that you don't think there is a deal there based on what some random fans said.

If you want to play make believe on a player that we don't even know if even available (at least I haven't heard anything), feel free.

I don't think there is a deal to be had because there is no evidence that we have an interest in him and I haven't seen any evidence that they front office wants to move him. The latter could be a mistake on my part, but I haven't seen anything. I haven't even seen anything to suggest that we're even looking at a top 4 (or top pairing) d-man.

When the Jets are actively shopping him and there is a reliable source saying we are looking at him, let's speculate. Until then... Totally pointless other than some mild entertainment. Doesn't mean any of us have to fall into the delusion that another teams fan base has any clue. We are guilty of over/under valuing our own players, I'm sure they are just as guilty - probably more. If they said our 2015 1st rounder, let along Murray, they are already delusional. Would they really think any team would move a potential top 5 pick for a player that is 29 with one year left on his deal?

As far as all the boards being meaningless, it's a place to discuss your team or the NHL. There are a lot of things you can talk about (and we do). For example, GTD's. We also discuss our farm system, who we would like to see drafted. We discuss our current roster, coaching staff, etc. Just because I don't buy into random trade talks with nothing to suggest we're interested in the player, isn't to say I find the boards meaningless. It's just another poster jumping to an unfounded conclusion. In other words, SSDD.

 

[DJA]

I'd be interested, but not remotely at the 2015 1st + Murray + Bjorkstrand asking price on the WPG board.

If they're wanting a roster player and a prospect, the best I could do would be Anisimov, Rychel and one of our 2nds.

 

[WannabeFinn]

I'd be interested, but not remotely at the 2015 1st + Murray + Bjorkstrand asking price on the WPG board.

2015 1st + Murray + Bjorkstrand?! my god HF..

 

[major major]

I'd be interested, but not remotely at the 2015 1st + Murray + Bjorkstrand asking price on the WPG board.

If they're wanting a roster player and a prospect, the best I could do would be Anisimov, Rychel and one of our 2nds.

 

[CBJx614]

I'd be interested, but not remotely at the 2015 1st + Murray + Bjorkstrand asking price on the WPG board.

If they're wanting a roster player and a prospect, the best I could do would be Anisimov, Rychel and one of our 2nds.

Just a few posts later it was brought up that it would never happen, and that just Murray alone would be enough, but that it would never happen, and more realistically it would need to involve our 2015 1st, which would also never happen.

If Anisimov, Rychel and our 2nds would get it done i think it would be heavily considered. But top pairing dmen dont come cheap and idk if WPG would do that. Or if Jarmo would even want to that.

I think that Buff would be a good fit here, but i dont think making a deal with WPG would be smart. Now if hes available in FA i think we make a serious move for him

 

[Robert]

No.... Buff is decent and paid his dues but CBJ don't need him...

 

[major major]

Just a few posts later it was brought up that it would never happen, and that just Murray alone would be enough, but that it would never happen, and more realistically it would need to involve our 2015 1st, which would also never happen.

If Anisimov, Rychel and our 2nds would get it done i think it would be heavily considered. But top pairing dmen dont come cheap and idk if WPG would do that. Or if Jarmo would even want to that.

I think that Buff would be a good fit here, but i dont think making a deal with WPG would be smart. Now if hes available in FA i think we make a serious move for him

He probably isn't going to make it to UFA. How often do players of that ilk make UFA?

Winnipeg is very likely to trade him in the summer, just because they already have Myers and Trouba on that same side, and they're a budget team. So WPG would do that (Anisimov, Rychel and 2 2nds), though we could get outbidded.

I think it is smart to make a strong offer, and just accept that you'll probably get outbidded.

 

[RyanOhReally]

Yes, but not for the price it'd take.

 

[VictoriaJetsFan]

thanks for the feedback jackets fans...much appreciated.

We get Murray is not on the table or your 2015 first, but we would have high interest in Calvert and Bjorkstrand.

How does Calvert, Bjorkstrand and Dano sound?

 

[CBJWerenski8]

thanks for the feedback jackets fans...much appreciated.

We get Murray is not on the table or your 2015 first, but we would have high interest in Calvert and Bjorkstrand.

How does Calvert, Bjorkstrand and Dano sound?

That's two top prospects and a valued fan favorite 3rd liner for Buf who could walk in a year. No thank you. Like the player, not the price it would take to get him

 

[punk_o_holic]

That's two top prospects and a valued fan favorite 3rd liner for Buf who could walk in a year. No thank you. Like the player, not the price it would take to get him

Basically this. Also with Dano being one of Jarmo's first round picks, I can't see him trading him.

To Jets fans, I understand, you have to give to get. But not worth it for a potential rent a player. Especially when Columbus doesn't become cup contenders next year by adding Big Buff.

 

[ndd17]

How does Calvert, Bjorkstrand and Dano sound?

Nope. Overmuch. Buff is a good player, but not for this price. In my understanding, AA+Zaar+3rd 15 will be good for us.

 

[major major]

How realistic is a negotiated sign-and-trade? We just can't trade a ton of assets for a guy with one year left on his deal.

If we had Buff signed long term then I think Calvert + Bjorkstrand + Dano makes sense from a value perspective. Though I would NOT trade Dano. Throw in someone else.