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Prospect Info: Anton Silayev (LD - #10 Overall - Round 1 - 2024 Draft)

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torpedo had a near meltdown but solid stuff from silayev again (i missed about half the 2nd and a chunk of the 3rd as a disclaimer)
  • daily reminder of how good he is at engulfing forecheckers and taking away space
  • hes still not perfect on the puck, but we're over a month in now and im not seeing him blind fire pass attempts into danger like he did in his draft year (issue really only appears on pressured clears). love it. more thinking/surveying/control on the puck now
  • not nearly as active offensively today, but did jump up on some rushes/trail. torpedo went up by a lot early (and by the time it got close they were already in panic mode lol) so not really needed anyway
  • if i have one complaint about his defensive game, it still feels like pass attempts get through him more easily than id like. i dont know if its a timing thing, a stick positioning thing, or just a coordination issue at his size, but for as impressive as his active stick can be, it rarely feels like hes a threat to intercept (or even tip) pucks in the lanes hes covering
 
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evnted said:
torpedo had a near meltdown but solid stuff from silayev again (i missed about half the 2nd and a chunk of the 3rd as a disclaimer)
  • daily reminder of how good he is at engulfing forecheckers and taking away space
  • hes still not perfect on the puck, but we're over a month in now and im not seeing him blind fire pass attempts into danger like he did in his draft year (issue really only appears on pressured clears). love it. more thinking/surveying/control on the puck now
  • not nearly as active offensively today, but did jump up on some rushes/trail. torpedo went up by a lot early (and by the time it got close they were already in panic mode lol) so not really needed anyway
  • if i have one complaint about his defensive game, it still feels like pass attempts get through him more easily than id like. i dont know if its a timing thing, a stick positioning thing, or just a coordination issue at his size, but for as impressive as his active stick can be, it rarely feels like hes a threat to intercept (or even tip) pucks in the lanes hes covering
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I'm guessing that at his height and propped up on skates he can barely see the puck so far below which makes it hard to block or deflect passes.
 
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evnted said:
torpedo had a near meltdown but solid stuff from silayev again (i missed about half the 2nd and a chunk of the 3rd as a disclaimer)
  • daily reminder of how good he is at engulfing forecheckers and taking away space
  • hes still not perfect on the puck, but we're over a month in now and im not seeing him blind fire pass attempts into danger like he did in his draft year (issue really only appears on pressured clears). love it. more thinking/surveying/control on the puck now
  • not nearly as active offensively today, but did jump up on some rushes/trail. torpedo went up by a lot early (and by the time it got close they were already in panic mode lol) so not really needed anyway
  • if i have one complaint about his defensive game, it still feels like pass attempts get through him more easily than id like. i dont know if its a timing thing, a stick positioning thing, or just a coordination issue at his size, but for as impressive as his active stick can be, it rarely feels like hes a threat to intercept (or even tip) pucks in the lanes hes covering
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I only caught the first. He had a really dumb icing. He was between the blue line and red line. He didn’t have a play but instead of like putting it off the glass more lightly, he fired it off the boards and it went down easy for an icing.

I think pucks are probably always going to go through him a bit easier just because of how big he is. He’s already pretty damn coordinated for a guy that big that young. It’s one of the disadvantages for big guys. There’s a lot more room for pucks to go through their feet or under their sticks
 
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I only caught the first. He had a really dumb icing. He was between the blue line and red line. He didn’t have a play but instead of like putting it off the glass more lightly, he fired it off the boards and it went down easy for an icing.
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i agree i would like to see improvement w these types of plays (honestly, he probably has 1 or 2 a game like that). the reason i havent really been calling them out is because i think its him figuring things out and id rather wait and see if it improves over time before calling it bad per se

he loved passing into open ice last year (part of which i think was necessary out of being on his weak side) so i can excuse some of these awkward clears/stretch pass attempts since it feels like him trying to problem solve/do something different. for me, so early into his d+1 season, a good idea with the wrong touch is better than a bad idea with the right touch. maybe not on that specific play, but i also feel like hes working through his timing/ability to anticipate teammate movement as well, and some of these are just miscues in that regard

ill likely get harder on him later in the year if hes still botching things/having these weird icing plays
 
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evnted said:
i agree i would like to see improvement w these types of plays (honestly, he probably has 1 or 2 a game like that). the reason i havent really been calling them out is because i think its him figuring things out and id rather wait and see if it improves over time before calling it bad per se

he loved passing into open ice last year (part of which i think was necessary out of being on his weak side) so i can excuse some of these awkward clears/stretch pass attempts since it feels like him trying to problem solve/do something different. for me, so early into his d+1 season, a good idea with the wrong touch is better than a bad idea with the right touch. maybe not on that specific play, but i also feel like hes working through his timing/ability to anticipate teammate movement as well, and some of these are just miscues in that regard

ill likely get harder on him later in the year if hes still botching things/having these weird icing plays
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It can take some time. Shakir wasn't perfect in this aspect of the game. And year after year we are tracking different players, I saw many big players who has this kind of problems, we can saw it in NHL regularly. Its a mechanical thing and smart big player will learn how to position himself in different situation and not creating problems for himself and for his partners.
Its a growing process and may be he should learn to not just catch the puck but taking the right spot from the right angle and tracking space around him.
 
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evnted said:
i agree i would like to see improvement w these types of plays (honestly, he probably has 1 or 2 a game like that). the reason i havent really been calling them out is because i think its him figuring things out and id rather wait and see if it improves over time before calling it bad per se

he loved passing into open ice last year (part of which i think was necessary out of being on his weak side) so i can excuse some of these awkward clears/stretch pass attempts since it feels like him trying to problem solve/do something different. for me, so early into his d+1 season, a good idea with the wrong touch is better than a bad idea with the right touch. maybe not on that specific play, but i also feel like hes working through his timing/ability to anticipate teammate movement as well, and some of these are just miscues in that regard

ill likely get harder on him later in the year if hes still botching things/having these weird icing plays
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This play in particular is one I don't think you can really excuse like that. I don't think there was anything to "figure out". He just put wayyy too much on it.
 
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good intent today but execution was mixed
  • nice read/pressure challenging NKH zone exit prior to 2nd TOR goal. dont think he got a touch on it but forced the attacker to make a hurried pass that was intercepted
  • usually isnt an issue for him but i think he accidentally screened his goalie on 1st NKH goal while crouching down for a block. in fairness to Big C here, the 3 other TOR pkers got jumbled on the right side of the ice so he kinda had to stay tight to the net/not challenge the shooter as much, but he should still be more aware (think he had his pk deployment cut over this as well, didnt see him out there as much)
  • thought he misfired on breakout pass attempts a bit more than normal. i liked his ideas to buy space (cutting back under pressure, moving laterally/not collapsing on his net, staying in motion/trying to open lanes himself), but the passes were a little hot/off the mark
  • solid off puck movement in the off zone, wasnt just a presence at the point. active, slippery, kept himself an option, but i think he really only got 1 look from his linemates
would like to see silayev get more of a chance to defend these late leads w the other team starting to surge. b2b viewings now where hes seen reduced minutes as his fellow blue liners fail to get the job done. lets see what he can do
 
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good intent today but execution was mixed
  • nice read/pressure challenging NKH zone exit prior to 2nd TOR goal. dont think he got a touch on it but forced the attacker to make a hurried pass that was intercepted
  • usually isnt an issue for him but i think he accidentally screened his goalie on 1st NKH goal while crouching down for a block. in fairness to Big C here, the 3 other TOR pkers got jumbled on the right side of the ice so he kinda had to stay tight to the net/not challenge the shooter as much, but he should still be more aware (think he had his pk deployment cut over this as well, didnt see him out there as much)
  • thought he misfired on breakout pass attempts a bit more than normal. i liked his ideas to buy space (cutting back under pressure, moving laterally/not collapsing on his net, staying in motion/trying to open lanes himself), but the passes were a little hot/off the mark
  • solid off puck movement in the off zone, wasnt just a presence at the point. active, slippery, kept himself an option, but i think he really only got 1 look from his linemates
would like to see silayev get more of a chance to defend these late leads w the other team starting to surge. b2b viewings now where hes seen reduced minutes as his fellow blue liners fail to get the job done. lets see what he can do
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Big C?
 
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Stream wasn't up during the 1st so I missed that and my attention was split between him and Lenni for the 2nd/3rd, from what I did see I really liked his game today. Puck play was clean and he was a rock defensively. Seems Larionov agreed. He was out quite a bit late game and in OT. I thought the Thursday game was a nice bounce back after last Saturday and he was then better today.
 
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good baseline game with some bad moments today
  • not too great on the 1st DYN goal. lost his balance coming up from a shot block attempt on the pk. is that directly why the puck went in? no, but his coverage was loose afterwards. weak stick lift attempt, and really no body play in front. i recognize im complaining about a deflected shot going in off a guy's chest (perhaps it was gonna be a goal regardless), but he still couldve played it better
  • didnt like a decision he made in the 2nd either. hustled back with DYN attacker after trying to deny a zone entry, and rather than staying hard on his man, he kinda...hopped to the inside briefly. i get what he was doing, he was trying to put himself between the net and the attacker, but that split second he let up gave the guy enough of a lane to send the puck toward the net for a second chance attempt that was under an inch away from going in
  • there was even a 3rd play that spooked me, although by this point, i think Big C was starting to get that he needed to play these guys harder. good contact on a back door attempt that was essentially gonna be a freebie. positioning still wasnt perfect (and honestly the pass couldve been better too) but we're grading off intent here
  • the shame of it is, i thought both his passing game and man on man play stood out as extra good today
  • lots of great play in the neutral zone and some really well-timed challenges on puck carriers. hes very good at picking his spots to step up
  • hes had a couple games now of stronger, more controlled passes on the backhand coming out of his own zone (rather than lobbing low percentage clear attempts). nowhere near the same turnover frequency
  • like the other day, tried to be an active participant off the rush even if it didnt yield anything again. less so in terms of off zone movement, but i still like that interest
  • saw two very brief shifts in ot (which is fun, didnt expect that) and made plays on both. first, a nice stop right at his own blue line. second, a chip and chase around defenders while his forwards changed. pleasantly surprised here, maybe he becomes a more consistent ot option later in the season
silayev has to be meaner out front, attackers should be afraid to challenge him for space. glad we're at least seeing continued improvement with his puck management, though, thats big
 
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evnted said:
  • there was even a 3rd play that spooked me, although by this point, i think Big C was starting to get that he needed to play these guys harder. good contact on a back door attempt that was essentially gonna be a freebie. positioning still wasnt perfect (and honestly the pass couldve been better too) but we're grading off intent here
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Either we're thinking of different plays here or I think that one was in the 2nd. I think the guy was trying to take a shot at the empty net there rather than pass. Either way Silayev stopped the guy back door from being able to convert on it.
 
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Either we're thinking of different plays here or I think that one was in the 2nd. I think the guy was trying to take a shot at the empty net there rather than pass. Either way Silayev stopped the guy back door from being able to convert on it.
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yes it was in the 2nd. 3rd play as in the 3rd one i was calling out, not the period. for sure, much better stop than the other two, but with that much space available, i was looking for a bit more of a tie up than he went for, felt closer than it had to be. still, i liked the response to play harder
 
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yes it was in the 2nd. 3rd play as in the 3rd one i was calling out, not the period. for sure, much better stop than the other two, but with that much space available, i was looking for a bit more of a tie up than he went for, felt closer than it had to be. still, i liked the response to play harder
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Ahhh. Yeah at least he did something nudge him. Would’ve been flashbacks to the winner from last week where the guy got the backdoor tap in right in front of him
 
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