Speculation: Another year of this Bluc **** (The 2024-25 season thread)

[Raccoon Jesus]

We made the playoffs and took the Oilers to game 7 before ever trading for Fiala, Vilardi, Gavrikov, etc. That team had heart. We're undeniably in a better position and likely still a playoff team all three years if Blake had done nothing but sign free agents from that '21-'22 season on (even if we don't re-sign both of Roy and Durzi). We'd also have Liam Ohgren and Oliver Bonk in the pipeline. It's maddening to look back on how devastating Blake's trades have been.

This is my beef with all of it

every time they've had some energetic success, it's been on the back of kids...then the vets come back and its fall flat time as they bench the kids and overplay the vets.

That team had Durzi and spence playing up to 28 minutes a game...doughty et. al. come back and they have to overplay drew and the corpses of edler or whoever it was at that point

This team was humming along until literally the moment they got back Lewis and Moore and then Doughty, sitting Helenius, Lee, Thomas, Clarke/Spence, frequently benching Turcotte, and overplaying the vets...only this time with a shortened bench that for all intents and purposes is either 9/5 or 10/5 in the third periods.

Like how many times does this have to happen? All he had to do was stay put. How could you not see the inspiration and energy of new blood and go away from that, trade them off to get older and less hungry and worse? It's the most frustrating thing I've experienced as a hockey fan. Thanks for the great work kid, let me put in someone older and worse, they've earned it.

No one but the Kings think Trevor Lewis should be an everyday player, much less getting shifts on the 1st line on a shortened bench in the third period.

No one but the Kings think Joel Edmundson is a top pairing defenseman and Brandt Clarke bench and trade fodder.

No one but the Kings take a dominant line with an 85%! goals for percentage and splits them up to appease the vets.

I'll double check but I'm pretty sure no one but the Kings is playing a 37 year old + F nearly 20 minutes a game and a 35+ year old D near league leading minutes/game. (edit: nope not even close. Doughty is 4th in the league in TOI/GP. Everyone around him is in their EARLY 20s. Parayko, Toews are close-ish but a few minutes behind and they're 31 yo. Letang and Karlsson are the closest and theyre at 29th and 31st in TOI and don't play 'hard' minutes, and then Pietrangelo at 44th. Kopitar is at 51st in TOI amongst forwards, much better this year! Yet the only ones ahead of him even in their 30s are Kucherov, Stone, Brock Nelson all in their early 30s....)

Gonna stop myself there but jesus christ man...often we go yeah it's easy to manage from the forums but so much stuff we have said for the last 5 years has come to roost and it's not genius high-brain hockey IQ stuff, just common sense.

 

[Schmooley]

This is my beef with all of it

every time they've had some energetic success, it's been on the back of kids...then the vets come back and its fall flat time as they bench the kids and overplay the vets.

That team had Durzi and spence playing up to 28 minutes a game...doughty et. al. come back and they have to overplay drew and the corpses of edler or whoever it was at that point

This team was humming along until literally the moment they got back Lewis and Moore and then Doughty, sitting Helenius, Lee, Thomas, Clarke/Spence, frequently benching Turcotte, and overplaying the vets...only this time with a shortened bench that for all intents and purposes is either 9/5 or 10/5 in the third periods.

Like how many times does this have to happen? All he had to do was stay put. How could you not see the inspiration and energy of new blood and go away from that, trade them off to get older and less hungry and worse? It's the most frustrating thing I've experienced as a hockey fan. Thanks for the great work kid, let me put in someone older and worse, they've earned it.

No one but the Kings think Trevor Lewis should be an everyday player, much less getting shifts on the 1st line on a shortened bench in the third period.

No one but the Kings think Joel Edmundson is a top pairing defenseman and Brandt Clarke bench and trade fodder.

No one but the Kings take a dominant line with an 85%! goals for percentage and splits them up to appease the vets.

I'll double check but I'm pretty sure no one but the Kings is playing a 37 year old + F nearly 20 minutes a game and a 35+ year old D near league leading minutes/game. (edit: nope not even close. Doughty is 4th in the league in TOI/GP. Everyone around him is in their EARLY 20s. Parayko, Toews are close-ish but a few minutes behind and they're 31 yo. Letang and Karlsson are the closest and theyre at 29th and 31st in TOI and don't play 'hard' minutes, and then Pietrangelo at 44th. Kopitar is at 51st in TOI amongst forwards, much better this year! Yet the only ones ahead of him even in their 30s are Kucherov, Stone, Brock Nelson all in their early 30s....)

Gonna stop myself there but jesus christ man...often we go yeah it's easy to manage from the forums but so much stuff we have said for the last 5 years has come to roost and it's not genius high-brain hockey IQ stuff, just common sense.

Well said.

 

[tigermask48]

We made the playoffs and took the Oilers to game 7 before ever trading for Fiala, PLD*, Gavrikov, etc. That team had heart. We're undeniably in a better position and likely still a playoff team all three years if Blake had done nothing but sign free agents from that '21-'22 season on (even if we don't re-sign both of Roy and Durzi). We'd also have Liam Ohgren and Oliver Bonk in the pipeline. It's maddening to look back on how devastating Blake's trades have been.

This guy gets it... and he has great taste in jerseys.

 

[FSL KINGS]

This is my beef with all of it

every time they've had some energetic success, it's been on the back of kids...then the vets come back and its fall flat time as they bench the kids and overplay the vets.

That team had Durzi and spence playing up to 28 minutes a game...doughty et. al. come back and they have to overplay drew and the corpses of edler or whoever it was at that point

This team was humming along until literally the moment they got back Lewis and Moore and then Doughty, sitting Helenius, Lee, Thomas, Clarke/Spence, frequently benching Turcotte, and overplaying the vets...only this time with a shortened bench that for all intents and purposes is either 9/5 or 10/5 in the third periods.

Like how many times does this have to happen? All he had to do was stay put. How could you not see the inspiration and energy of new blood and go away from that, trade them off to get older and less hungry and worse? It's the most frustrating thing I've experienced as a hockey fan. Thanks for the great work kid, let me put in someone older and worse, they've earned it.

No one but the Kings think Trevor Lewis should be an everyday player, much less getting shifts on the 1st line on a shortened bench in the third period.

No one but the Kings think Joel Edmundson is a top pairing defenseman and Brandt Clarke bench and trade fodder.

No one but the Kings take a dominant line with an 85%! goals for percentage and splits them up to appease the vets.

I'll double check but I'm pretty sure no one but the Kings is playing a 37 year old + F nearly 20 minutes a game and a 35+ year old D near league leading minutes/game. (edit: nope not even close. Doughty is 4th in the league in TOI/GP. Everyone around him is in their EARLY 20s. Parayko, Toews are close-ish but a few minutes behind and they're 31 yo. Letang and Karlsson are the closest and theyre at 29th and 31st in TOI and don't play 'hard' minutes, and then Pietrangelo at 44th. Kopitar is at 51st in TOI amongst forwards, much better this year! Yet the only ones ahead of him even in their 30s are Kucherov, Stone, Brock Nelson all in their early 30s....)

Gonna stop myself there but jesus christ man...often we go yeah it's easy to manage from the forums but so much stuff we have said for the last 5 years has come to roost and it's not genius high-brain hockey IQ stuff, just common sense.

There's been the 12th forward spot open most the year so it isn't Lewis standing in guys way of getting a forward spot.

Plus, Lewis 1,000 game is going to be the only memorable thing from this season.

The game 7 they made it to had Doughty out injured. Also the PP was good that year. Partly due to Spence & Kaliyev on the second unit.

 

[tigermask48]

How is this real

This feels like one of those "pump up the player through the media" things. From everything I've seen and heard, Carbery is great at communicating with players and keeping them pushing themselves. Never heard a bad thing about the guy and every player that's played for him has nothing but good to say about the guy. He really seems like the perfect coach for a slug like PLD.

 

[AbsentMojo]

This feels like one of those "pump up the player through the media" things. From everything I've seen and heard, Carbery is great at communicating with players and keeping them pushing themselves. Never heard a bad thing about the guy and every player that's played for him has nothing but good to say about the guy. He really seems like the perfect coach for a slug like PLD.

I agree that must be the case. PLD seems to do this passive agressive thing where he tanks when he doesnt like the way he's being handled... getting all the $$ and still doesnt have the pride to play hard even when he's not getting his way. Carbery is a genious to get this guy to keep performing. He's had a great season.