Speculation: Another year of this Bluc **** (The 2024-25 season thread)

[Ollie Weeks]

Have to think Blake is sniffing around Kreider, yeah?

Big, good net presence, PP scoring galore. Pretty no-frills game so unlikely to get benched by this staff for creativity/risk taking. Would def like someone more creative and righty but...

He could be cheaper than expected. That owner is a dumb reactionary wild card, he could see the extra cap space free’d up by a deal and send Kreider out for a song. There’s a world where it’s a disaster to bring him in, could also be shrewd business.

 

[chris kontos]

Somebody was saying blake was sniffing around krieder. I watch the rangers alot because of quick and sam rosen. The guy i think drury is dying to move is zibanejad. In the conference finals last yr mika stopped backchecking and pretty much playing any defense at all. Then he had a kid and his prioritys changed. Now. The guy doesnt want to play hockey anymore and basically mails it in every game. This dude is poison and he's cooked. Maybe not to dj but he appearently is through with nhl level hockey.
Krieder is somewhat better but not very damn much. A healthy scratch over the weekend. He likes to tip the puck for goals but not much else. He sure cashes some big checks however.
Hands off both these cats.

 

[Surf Nutz]

That’s the expertise of the HFboards GM in full force. Can you imagine how many cups we would have if these guys ran the team?

How many cups?

We would be like the Sabres and never ever make the playoffs.

 

[Surf Nutz]

Greetings from the Leafs' board. Toronto would certainly entertain the idea of acquiring Danault, although there would have to be some cap going back in the most likely form of Kämpf.

What would a potential deal with the Leafs look like?

Nylander and Kampf

for Danault and Doughty, if he consents.

If not

Danault, Moore, and Gavrikov, if he consents.

if not

Danault , Moore, Englund and Kaliyev

You guys want em back, you know it!

 

[bland]

He could be cheaper than expected. That owner is a dumb reactionary wild card, he could see the extra cap space free’d up by a deal and send Kreider out for a song. There’s a world where it’s a disaster to bring him in, could also be shrewd business.

They are trying to set themselves up for McDavid should he hit free agency. Won't be surprised to see them moving Kreider for player(s) with comparable cap hits that expire in the summer of 2026.

 

[Axl Rhoadz]

How many cups?

We would be like the Sabres and never ever make the playoffs.

It’s Xmas, was trying to pump the tires.

 

[Sol]

Iafallo!!!

Massive f***ing props to him to go against Domi.
Legit.

Seasons beatings

 

[Surf Nutz]

It’s Xm

as, was trying to pump the tires.

Steel tread and bald spots ,wobbly old tires that loudly leak air need to be replaced by new tires.

That's us!

Merry Christmas Even to the Grinch Brigade!

 

[Schrute farms]

That’s the expertise of the HFboards GM in full force. Can you imagine how many cups we would have if these guys ran the team?

The last 10 years for the Kings (2015-2024+):

• Zero Stanley Cups
• Zero playoff series wins

I'm not sure any fan could do worse than that, but ok.

 

[Sol]

The last 10 years for the Kings (2015-2024+):

• Zero Stanley Cups
• Zero playoff series wins

I'm not sure any fan could do worse than that, but ok.

Don’t worry about old Scrooge. He was still fantasizing about McLellan when the Kings fired him.

 

[Axl Rhoadz]

Don’t worry about old Scrooge. He was still fantasizing about McLellan when the Kings fired him.

And you were fantasizing that a new coach would get us past EDM....whoops.

 

[Trash Panda]

The last 10 years for the Kings (2015-2024+):

• Zero Stanley Cups
• Zero playoff series wins

I'm not sure any fan could do worse than that, but ok.

At this point, I feel like someone could have at least lucked into a playoff round win.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

The last 10 years for the Kings (2015-2024+):

• Zero Stanley Cups
• Zero playoff series wins

I'm not sure any fan could do worse than that, but ok.

At this point, I feel like someone could have at least lucked into a playoff round win.

Yup.

No matter how much Blake knows about hockey or how qualified he may be for the job

Any poster here could have created a black hole team for a decade out of the 2017 Kings.

 

[FrozenKing18]

Been winning the cup in EA NHL since 06. I’m sure I can take the Kings past the 1st round. Give me a shot

 

[Sol]

And you were fantasizing that a new coach would get us past EDM....whoops.

You can say you were wrong without lying lmao

 

[KINGS17]

They are trying to set themselves up for McDavid should he hit free agency. Won't be surprised to see them moving Kreider for player(s) with comparable cap hits that expire in the summer of 2026.

Not this shit again. Of course it's BLuc and they think the chevy logo era was the best ever for the Kings.

 

[FSL KINGS]

Detroit signed Todd!!!!


Does this mean the King's can now afford a real coach?

 

[bland]

Not this shit again. Of course it's BLuc and they think the chevy logo era was the best ever for the Kings.

I was talking about the Rags there

Yup.

No matter how much Blake knows about hockey or how qualified he may be for the job

Any poster here could have created a black hole team for a decade out of the 2017 Kings.

I know of a few that would have lead to the team folding.

 

[BigKing]

The last 10 years for the Kings (2015-2024+):

• Zero Stanley Cups
• Zero playoff series wins

I'm not sure any fan could do worse than that, but ok.

Take a look at the home playoff record during that time. This gem flies under the radar a bit but not for me since I've been at every one of the losses.

Might be two playoff home wins over that time.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

Take a look at the home playoff record during that time. This gem flies under the radar a bit but not for me since I've been at every one of the losses.

Might be two playoff home wins over that time.

nailed it

0-2 at home 2016,
0-2 2018,
1-2 2022,
1-2 2023,
0-2 2024

0 playoff series wins
2 home playoff game wins, 10 losses.

 

[johnjm22]

Part of the reason for the lack of success over the past 10 years is precisely because of the success that preceded it.

Winning cups usually requires selling out. When the cup window closes you often get a long winter.

Pittsburgh hasn't won a series since 2018 and probably won't win one again this decade. Chicago might get one before the 2030's but it ain't looking too good.

It's not here yet, but Winter is coming for Tampa Bay as well.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

Part of the reason for the lack of success over the past 10 years is precisely because of the success that preceded it.

Winning cups usually requires selling out. When the cup window closes you often get a long winter.

Pittsburgh hasn't won a series since 2018 and probably won't win one again this decade. Chicago might get one before the 2030's but it ain't looking too good.

It's not here yet, but Winter is coming for Tampa Bay as well.

Come on.

Bruins won in 2011--back to finals in 2013--have advanced to at least the 2nd round SIX times since.
Hawks went WCF-Cup-playoffs-playoffs-Cup-WCF-Cup before they finally petered out so maybe that applies to them but even THEY won a playoff round after that run
Pens won three Cups and still went ot the 2nd round after
Caps went deep for many years and finally fell apart
Blues won in 2019, have been to 2nd round since
TBL's story is still running, they went deep nearly every year
Colorado won in 2022, have been to 2nd round since

Being successful doesn't preclude completely falling apart for a full decade. There have been more successful teams of longer duration doing better in a shorter period of time. This is just mismanagement. Kings had three awesome seasons--we wouldn't change that for anything--but that's a short run compared to the above followed by a prolonged period of failure compared to the above.

 

[johnjm22]

Come on.

Bruins won in 2011--back to finals in 2013--have advanced to at least the 2nd round SIX times since.
Hawks went WCF-Cup-playoffs-playoffs-Cup-WCF-Cup before they finally petered out so maybe that applies to them but even THEY won a playoff round after that run
Pens won three Cups and still went ot the 2nd round after
Caps went deep for many years and finally fell apart
Blues won in 2019, have been to 2nd round since
TBL's story is still running, they went deep nearly every year
Colorado won in 2022, have been to 2nd round since

Being successful doesn't preclude completely falling apart for a full decade. There have been more successful teams doing better. This is just mismanagement. Kings had three awesome seasons--we wouldn't change that for anything--but that's a short run compared to the above followed by a prolonged period of failure compared to the above.

I said PART.

I also said "When the cup window closes ". You're using teams that are or were still in their window to support your counter argument. Colorado probably still in theirs for example. Pens were still in theirs last time they won a series.

Contending now OFTEN requires a cost. That cost is the future.

High success. High cost.

There are exceptions.

 

[bland]

I said PART.

I also said "When the cup window closes ". You're using teams that are or were still in their window to support your counter argument. Colorado probably still in theirs for example. Pens were still in theirs last time they won a series.

Contending now OFTEN requires a cost. That cost is the future.

High success. High cost.

There are exceptions.

It doesn't have to ruin you for a decade. The biggest mistake made was re-signing Kopitar, there was absolutely zero chance of any immediate success and his presence was going to guarantee that the fall was never going to be far enough to bounce back in a reasonable amount of time.

Every decision made since then was to try and maximize the return on a mistake. Ten years on and the best they can still hope for is prolonged mediocrity.

The cost of a solid, lengthy Cup ran CAN be mitigated, but when you are looking at going from a period of great success into a period of either lengthy, steady decline or an immediate drop off, you aren't going to see many management teams risk their necks to bring a more sudden end to the good will built via success. But it doesn't mean that it can't be done, it just isn't done.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

I said PART.

I also said "When the cup window closes ". You're using teams that are or were still in their window to support your counter argument. Colorado probably still in theirs for example. Pens were still in theirs last time they won a series.

Contending now OFTEN requires a cost. That cost is the future.

High success. High cost.

There are exceptions.

Sure, and you can go back to the previous champions which were...Wings, prolonged success before now; Ducks, prolonged success before now; TBL AGAIN, and then Devils, prolonged success before now. Seeing a pattern? The only other team similar to the Kings dumping out was the only real exception, Carolina. "These teams are still in their window" isn't the counterargument you think it is, frankly that strengthens the idea of what a dumpster fire this has been.

My point was the Kings not only had a tiny window compared to all these other champs--they were dog water on BOTH sides of it. Most of these other franchises burned thru assets keeping a window going for 7+ years, Kings only got three; most got back to the 2nd round if not immediately, within a couple of years. We are going on a decade with two single playoff game wins.

Yes, we all know the 'cost of success', but that's not an excuse for this, and, frankly, THIS FRANCHISE is the exception. It's indefensible.