Speculation: Another year of this Bluc **** (The 2024-25 season thread)

Peter James Bond III

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Today's NHL, success and wins come from teams that can shut down the opponent's top players...bottle up the neutral zone, stand up at blue line...keep teams from getting high quality chances....and the more physical, still the better. And the less penalties they take, still better yet

This is how it will be, from this point. Teams that play tighter defensively, versus teams that have top offenses, will be victors. Sure, there are the odd, 7-5 shootout pond hockey games, with more giveaways and loosely played, but that's not the norm and rare in the playoffs.

From a fans perspective...wanting to see the best talent in the world, be able to FULLY practice their craft and a more exciting brand of hockey to be on display...I think it would be awesome (I am not actually saying I want this to happen, so don't respond that I do prescribe this) is to have period 3 be 4 on 4 play. The final 20 minutes....4 on 4. The result would be, room for the elite talent and top skaters to practice their craft fully. For the scrubs who make 1 million living, being defensive scrubs that are paid to stop the McDavids and MacKinnon's of the world, would not even play in the 3rd period. If your team is down, 4-2, you have a chance...play 3 forwards and 1 defenseman...if you're up 4-2, you play 2 forwards, 2 defensemen. Periods 1 and 2, you may not play your top skaters and talent 15 mins, if you're down 4-2 and save them to play 7-8 minutes of period 3. You'd see comeback wins.
You'd see highlight reel goals. Tick Tac Toe goals and the pure beauty of the game, would rule again.

Yes, this would never happen and it would mess with career goals, points and records, as offense may be skewed to the upside. GAA would go up. Save % down. I am merely saying you'd see more hockey as it was meant to be....and not a defense, trap, muck up the zones and impede the best players from being able to play more freely. From a spectator view, this would be more exciting. Coaches who managed the third period the best, would also factor in, as something to take in. Maybe you're down, 5-2 and want to turn the game off...but, you'll hang in for period 3, to see some great hockey...and maybe a stunning comeback.

Maybe skilled, 'softer' players in Europe and more 5'9" guys and offensive defensemen would get jobs, and less 775K talent-less scrubs be in the AHL, where many of them play at that skill level. Every game I watch, I want to see what talent on the opponent can do...and see their skill....as in, last game vs Rangers, I wanted to see Panarin do amazing things...and when saw the Wild, wanted to see Kaprizov go nutts...neither did much. They were non factors, shut down by defenses. As a spectator, I want to see the Bedards, MacKinnon's, Kaprizovs do their thing, not Cal Clutterbuck or a Stenlund shine, in spending 3 hours taking a game in.

Flame away.
 

Visnovsky

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Kings need to move Danault and Moore asap. Still early and Blake can fool contenders into thinking Danault is the shutdown c he once was. Move him now before he becomes immovable
Greetings from the Leafs' board. Toronto would certainly entertain the idea of acquiring Danault, although there would have to be some cap going back in the most likely form of Kämpf.

What would a potential deal with the Leafs look like?
 

FSL KINGS

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Greetings from the Leafs' board. Toronto would certainly entertain the idea of acquiring Danault, although there would have to be some cap going back in the most likely form of Kämpf.

What would a potential deal with the Leafs look like?
Our GM is in win now mode.

Not joking. :laugh:

Don't see Danault getting moved due to a lack of replacement at center. Laferriere just got his first game at center tonight because Danault was banged up.
 
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unicornpig

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Greetings from the Leafs' board. Toronto would certainly entertain the idea of acquiring Danault, although there would have to be some cap going back in the most likely form of Kämpf.

What would a potential deal with the Leafs look like?
Don't think toronto is good trading partners, really not a player on the leafs I would think would want except for knies and I doubt he's available
 
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bland

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Today's NHL, success and wins come from teams that can shut down the opponent's top players...bottle up the neutral zone, stand up at blue line...keep teams from getting high quality chances....and the more physical, still the better. And the less penalties they take, still better yet

This is how it will be, from this point. Teams that play tighter defensively, versus teams that have top offenses, will be victors. Sure, there are the odd, 7-5 shootout pond hockey games, with more giveaways and loosely played, but that's not the norm and rare in the playoffs.

From a fans perspective...wanting to see the best talent in the world, be able to FULLY practice their craft and a more exciting brand of hockey to be on display...I think it would be awesome (I am not actually saying I want this to happen, so don't respond that I do prescribe this) is to have period 3 be 4 on 4 play. The final 20 minutes....4 on 4. The result would be, room for the elite talent and top skaters to practice their craft fully. For the scrubs who make 1 million living, being defensive scrubs that are paid to stop the McDavids and MacKinnon's of the world, would not even play in the 3rd period. If your team is down, 4-2, you have a chance...play 3 forwards and 1 defenseman...if you're up 4-2, you play 2 forwards, 2 defensemen. Periods 1 and 2, you may not play your top skaters and talent 15 mins, if you're down 4-2 and save them to play 7-8 minutes of period 3. You'd see comeback wins.
You'd see highlight reel goals. Tick Tac Toe goals and the pure beauty of the game, would rule again.

Yes, this would never happen and it would mess with career goals, points and records, as offense may be skewed to the upside. GAA would go up. Save % down. I am merely saying you'd see more hockey as it was meant to be....and not a defense, trap, muck up the zones and impede the best players from being able to play more freely. From a spectator view, this would be more exciting. Coaches who managed the third period the best, would also factor in, as something to take in. Maybe you're down, 5-2 and want to turn the game off...but, you'll hang in for period 3, to see some great hockey...and maybe a stunning comeback.

Maybe skilled, 'softer' players in Europe and more 5'9" guys and offensive defensemen would get jobs, and less 775K talent-less scrubs be in the AHL, where many of them play at that skill level. Every game I watch, I want to see what talent on the opponent can do...and see their skill....as in, last game vs Rangers, I wanted to see Panarin do amazing things...and when saw the Wild, wanted to see Kaprizov go nutts...neither did much. They were non factors, shut down by defenses. As a spectator, I want to see the Bedards, MacKinnon's, Kaprizovs do their thing, not Cal Clutterbuck or a Stenlund shine, in spending 3 hours taking a game in.

Flame away.
Its been this way from the start up to the early 80s, then from the late 80s up to the present. The openly offensive era of the NHL was really just a brief speck in its history.

There is nothing more boring than watching teams go up and down with little resistance. The perseverance required to succeed in this league, especially in the playoffs, is the real drama of this sport. The players that can fight thru tight checking, that can use their skills and ability to rise above the traps and grind, those are the ones worth honoring not the fancy Dan's that flash their way to highlights before getting neutralized with ease in a series.
 
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Schrute farms

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A hard hitting, board battling, close 2-1 playoff game is MUCH more exciting than a 9-7 all-star type game.

A random game during the middle of the season -- ok, sure an offensive explosion game with not much defense can be fun over yet another defensive game. But when things matter, the tough true hockey game is WAY better than open ice no-defense games.
 

Trash Panda

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The worst thing to happen to Kevin Fiala this summer was PLD getting traded, because now he can't hide behind a worse teammate. This guy's the only player on the team with a minus, and he's a -7 at that! Eight guys on the team are a +10 or higher, and another nine guys are at least a +1.

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What the f*** is going on here? We made a lot of excuses back in the day for Jack Johnson, but as soon as we traded him we won two Stanley Cups in three years. What can we get for Fiala?
The team would be better without Fiala than it is with him.

That NMC is gonna be problematic.
 

KINGS17

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A hard hitting, board battling, close 2-1 playoff game is MUCH more exciting than a 9-7 all-star type game.

A random game during the middle of the season -- ok, sure an offensive explosion game with not much defense can be fun over yet another defensive game. But when things matter, the tough true hockey game is WAY better than open ice no-defense games.
Imagine a time when all-star games had that kind of intensity. It isn't hard if you try...

 

Trash Panda

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They struggle to score more than 2 against teams that just keep 2 D back & you want to get rid of offense?
I don’t want to get rid of offense, that’s why I’m suggesting getting rid of Fiala, who generates very little at ES, and doesn’t contribute particularly well anywhere else besides blue line turnovers
 

YP44

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Greetings from the Leafs' board. Toronto would certainly entertain the idea of acquiring Danault, although there would have to be some cap going back in the most likely form of Kämpf.

What would a potential deal with the Leafs look like?
Don't see a deal that would work for both sides. I really like Cowan but he is pretty much everything when it comes to the leaf prospect pool.
 
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SaltyElkHunter

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Well currently we are playing the oilers in the first round again. Fire up the conveyor belt of I told you so. Final product should be assembled in April!
 
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Raccoon Jesus

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Have to think Blake is sniffing around Kreider, yeah?

Big, good net presence, PP scoring galore. Pretty no-frills game so unlikely to get benched by this staff for creativity/risk taking. Would def like someone more creative and righty but...
 

YP44

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Have to think Blake is sniffing around Kreider, yeah?

Big, good net presence, PP scoring galore. Pretty no-frills game so unlikely to get benched by this staff for creativity/risk taking. Would def like someone more creative and righty but...
Unless he is as cheap as Kakko I would rather keep the assets to target a right hand shot.
 

DoktorJeep

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Have to think Blake is sniffing around Kreider, yeah?

Big, good net presence, PP scoring galore. Pretty no-frills game so unlikely to get benched by this staff for creativity/risk taking. Would def like someone more creative and righty but...
Agree, but feels like a deadline trade for both teams.
 

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