Speculation: Another year of this Bluc **** (The 2024-25 season thread)

[BaileyFan]

I was thinking that a team making a run that needs a d man will give us a 3rd or 4th round pick to rent and possibly sign him.
Im in the minority probably that id do alot to rid ourselves of fiala- hes better suited for the ice capades than the nhl even to the point that if he doesnt agree to a trade id scratch him till he does (the old lou lamarillo treatment).
Hes actually hurting the team at this point and although im not a numbers guy i think numbers would bear me out

Gavrikov would bring back a 1st at minimum. Solid top 4 D that can now play either side is gold to a contender at the deadline. He fetched a 1st and 3rd two years ago (Blake-tax included but still) and he is currently better than he was back then.

 

[Axl Rhoadz]

Im in the minority probably that id do alot to rid ourselves of fiala- hes better suited for the ice capades than the nhl even to the point that if he doesnt agree to a trade id scratch him till he does (the old lou lamarillo treatment).

Is someone going to tell him?

 

[chris kontos]

If the deal was a sign and trade it would bring back a first etc

 

[FSL KINGS]

Just bring in Carey Price LTIR, then there's plenty of space.

 

[chris kontos]

Just bring in Carey Price LTIR, then there's plenty of space.

He's better than quick ever was you know.
In fact he's the greatest hockey player thats ever played at any level.

 

[FSL KINGS]

He's better than quick ever was you know.
In fact he's the greatest hockey player thats ever played at any level.

*Shesterkin is the best goalie, player ever.

Edit: Other than Lewis, obviously.

 

[tbrown33]

Not going to go through every team but Logan Stankoven, in his D+4 year (this year), is 5th on the Stars in ES TOI among forwards.

More than Laferriere despite being a year younger.

Matthew Knies from the same draft for Toronto has similar time on ice. He's also 5th in ES TOI. In his first full season, he was 6th in ES TOI/GP.

That's just going back a couple years.

But the issue isn't the immediacy of getting top 6/4 ice time. It's the absence of opportunity until there's actual injury or, with someone like Dubois, they play themselves off the team.

For Quinton Byfield, a second overall pick, he has the following rankings of ES TOI among forwards:
12th - 2021/22 (D + 2)
8th - 2022/23 (D + 3)
5th - 2023/24 (D + 4)
6th - 2024/25 (D + 5)

Turcotte's rankings
19th - 2022/23 (D + 4)
15th - 2023/24 (D + 5)
11th - 2024/25 (D + 6)

The Kings top-five picks are, at best, afforded the same opportunity as second and third rounders on some other teams, and they aren't exactly rebuilding teams either.

easy one off the top of my head: Brock Faber (#1 TOI in Wild’s first game in 2023, and they never looked back after that)

 

[Statto]

If the deal was a sign and trade it would bring back a first etc

He wouldn’t need to sign to get a 1st. Most thought Roy unsigned was worth a 1st and Gavrikov is the better player.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

Yeah that shouldn't even be debatable

Gavrikov even unsigned is worth a 1st + easily even to GMs not named Blake

 

[chris kontos]

Grrrrrrrrrrrr wonder why roy didnt fetch a first

 

[GoldenBearHockey]

I was thinking that a team making a run that needs a d man will give us a 3rd or 4th round pick to rent and possibly sign him.
Im in the minority probably that id do alot to rid ourselves of fiala- hes better suited for the ice capades than the nhl even to the point that if he doesnt agree to a trade id scratch him till he does (the old lou lamarillo treatment).
Hes actually hurting the team at this point and although im not a numbers guy i think numbers would bear me out

Numbers DEFINITELY do not bear you out, Jesus Christ that's probably the hottest take of the season so far.

 

[MonkeysUncle]

Grrrrrrrrrrrr wonder why roy didnt fetch a first

Cuz Kings management was in denial about how good they actually were and kept him

 

[FSL KINGS]

There goes my Moore for Kakko dream.

 

[Herby]

There goes my Moore for Kakko dream.

That would have been a terrible trade for the Kings. Moore scored 30 goals last year and has a friendly contract, why would you trade him for a bust?

 

[Axl Rhoadz]

That would have been a terrible trade for the Kings. Moore scored 30 goals last year and has a friendly contract, why would you trade him for a bust?

<thumbs up>

 

[Surf Nutz]

Bro forgot to switch accounts again

You would need two computers, HF only allows one per IP address.

 

[Surf Nutz]

This is really an interesting chart, It has Vancouver's window closing....with Hughes, and Petterson and Demko....it has NYRs window open, but no context to the shitstorm there, it has Winnipeg as time to rebuild with Connor, Vilardi, Morrissey, Hellybuck, and it has Ottawa in no man's land with Stutzle, Sanderson, Tkachuk, Norris, etc,

Not sure what measures it takes to get there, but it's interesting.