Speculation: Another year of this Bluc **** (The 2024-25 season thread)

BaileyFan

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I was thinking that a team making a run that needs a d man will give us a 3rd or 4th round pick to rent and possibly sign him.
Im in the minority probably that id do alot to rid ourselves of fiala- hes better suited for the ice capades than the nhl even to the point that if he doesnt agree to a trade id scratch him till he does (the old lou lamarillo treatment).
Hes actually hurting the team at this point and although im not a numbers guy i think numbers would bear me out
Gavrikov would bring back a 1st at minimum. Solid top 4 D that can now play either side is gold to a contender at the deadline. He fetched a 1st and 3rd two years ago (Blake-tax included but still) and he is currently better than he was back then.
 

Axl Rhoadz

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Im in the minority probably that id do alot to rid ourselves of fiala- hes better suited for the ice capades than the nhl even to the point that if he doesnt agree to a trade id scratch him till he does (the old lou lamarillo treatment).
Is someone going to tell him?
 

tbrown33

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Not going to go through every team but Logan Stankoven, in his D+4 year (this year), is 5th on the Stars in ES TOI among forwards.

More than Laferriere despite being a year younger.

Matthew Knies from the same draft for Toronto has similar time on ice. He's also 5th in ES TOI. In his first full season, he was 6th in ES TOI/GP.

That's just going back a couple years.

But the issue isn't the immediacy of getting top 6/4 ice time. It's the absence of opportunity until there's actual injury or, with someone like Dubois, they play themselves off the team.

For Quinton Byfield, a second overall pick, he has the following rankings of ES TOI among forwards:
12th - 2021/22 (D + 2)
8th - 2022/23 (D + 3)
5th - 2023/24 (D + 4)
6th - 2024/25 (D + 5)

Turcotte's rankings
19th - 2022/23 (D + 4)
15th - 2023/24 (D + 5)
11th - 2024/25 (D + 6)

The Kings top-five picks are, at best, afforded the same opportunity as second and third rounders on some other teams, and they aren't exactly rebuilding teams either.
easy one off the top of my head: Brock Faber (#1 TOI in Wild’s first game in 2023, and they never looked back after that)
 

GoldenBearHockey

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I was thinking that a team making a run that needs a d man will give us a 3rd or 4th round pick to rent and possibly sign him.
Im in the minority probably that id do alot to rid ourselves of fiala- hes better suited for the ice capades than the nhl even to the point that if he doesnt agree to a trade id scratch him till he does (the old lou lamarillo treatment).
Hes actually hurting the team at this point and although im not a numbers guy i think numbers would bear me out

Numbers DEFINITELY do not bear you out, Jesus Christ that's probably the hottest take of the season so far.
 

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