Speculation: Another year of this Bluc **** (The 2024-25 season thread)

[All The Kings Men]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1837236474309398873

If the 1-2-2 has more players in the defensive position by player count, how are the forwards to be more aggressive? Is it a thing where all players are closer to the opponent’s net than their own which makes it more uptempo?

Neutral Zone Forecheck 1-2-2

Neutral zone play can often determine the outcome of the game and being able to forecheck properly in the neutral zone will create turnovers which will lead to more time in your offensive zone and less time in the defensive zone. This 1-2-2 forecheck video goes over step by step where your...

www.icehockeysystems.com

 

[johnjm22]

asdf

Moore has the sense / savvy to avoid contact on his smallish frame.. Turcotte on the other hand never seems aware of danger - head down a lot.. it will be a miracle if he makes it to 50 games this season.. In the vid, you see him glance at the guy heading his way, yet he does nothing to avoid it.. similar to his concussion hits.

Not getting injured is a skill. He needs to figure it out while still being an effective hockey player.

 

[GoldenBearHockey]

If the 1-2-2 has more players in the defensive position by player count, how are the forwards to be more aggressive? Is it a thing where all players are closer to the opponent’s net than their own which makes it more uptempo?

All depends on how aggressive, you are, passive means 1 guy hashmarks, 2 blue line, 2 redline you are waiting.....if you want it to be ultra aggressive, which is what I like, you have 1 guy hounding in the corners, 1 guy on the wall, 1 guy in the slot, and the 2 guys are on the blueline or just out, and then if the puck moves to the other corner, the guy in the slot becomes the hound, guy on the wall busts ass to the other wall and guy in the corner becomes slot.....it's extremely aggressive......you can also teach it as a rotation, where the D comes down and pinches on the wall. the other D slides over, the wall guy comes to D and the corner guy goes to slot.....that's more of a 5 man unit working together, than your typical 3F-2D setup because you will have D out of position utilizing that.

 

[DoktorJeep]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1837236474309398873

Neutral Zone Forecheck 1-2-2

Neutral zone play can often determine the outcome of the game and being able to forecheck properly in the neutral zone will create turnovers which will lead to more time in your offensive zone and less time in the defensive zone. This 1-2-2 forecheck video goes over step by step where your...

www.icehockeysystems.com

Thanks, but I’ve got subscription fatigue, especially when it comes to the LA Kings.

 

[CarlSneep]

Just watch old Terry Murray games and you’ll get the gist

 

[All The Kings Men]

Thanks, but I’ve got subscription fatigue, especially when it comes to the LA Kings.

Sorry about that... I was expecting you to see the free 2:54 video that explains it perfectly and simply at the top of the page.

 

[AbsentMojo]

If the 1-2-2 has more players in the defensive position by player count, how are the forwards to be more aggressive? Is it a thing where all players are closer to the opponent’s net than their own which makes it more uptempo?

1-2-2 is what most teams run.. Only Koala saw fit to run a 1-3-1.. the good news is that though it seems on the whiteboard like you have same single player puck pressure, in practice 1-2-2 is run more aggressively e.g. CAR OZ Forecheck vs TBL

 

[DoktorJeep]

Sorry about that... I was expecting you to see the free 2:54 video that explains it perfectly and simply at the top of the page.

My bad, Safari blocks spam content by default. I tried watching, but it was a chore listening to Denis Savard. So, I asked google to explain the difference.

Turns out the top result is an HFBoards thread. Looks like it’s a tweak on playing the trap. I guess that’s the best the brain trust could come up with after finally getting some time to think it over. Better work because we know that is absolutely impossible to change anything mid season where a first round exit is a must have requirement.

 

[tny760]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1837236474309398873

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

If the 1-2-2 has more players in the defensive position by player count, how are the forwards to be more aggressive? Is it a thing where all players are closer to the opponent’s net than their own which makes it more uptempo?

that's what we were playing during the playoffs when the team looked notably more aggressive, it allows for smaller gaps and better offensive positioning to take advantage of turnovers, which is why kempe and fiala loved it and why our waterbug roster should take full advantage of it

I think we misunderstood the "Kaliyev has a contract chatter"

It was ON him, not FOR him

Rob Blake finding new and creative ways to keep the kids out of the lineup

One year contract on kaliyev, congrats on the bonus Burroughs

 

[kingsholygrail]

Rob Blake hip checked him into the corner. He didn't survive.

 

[Sol]

Look man, I’d love to get into an actual nuanced conversation about your opinions versus mine, but speaking in hyperbole isn’t gonna keep my interest very long.

Hyperbole or not doesn’t change the fact that it’s based in truth.

 

[Sol]

Jesse putting a hit out on Kaliyev. Wooow.

 

[Bandit]

He took his lumps as a rookie, was scratched and learned along the way. He got better and earned the coaches trust, which means more icetime. He outplayed the 8.5 mil prima-dona most nights, which I know isn't saying much, but he was always noticeable. The guys going to be a really good middle 6 pro.

You could say the exact thing about JAD, but he was never given the same rope. Laferriere just happens to have a last name that sounds French. There’s no other reason he should be sniffing the top line of an actual NHL team.

 

[lumbergh]

Ugh, Kaliyev just cannot catch a break. I hope he is back on the ice soon.

 

[Steve Zissou]

New Kids On The Block
Hanging' Tough edition

 

[kingsfan28]

So did I and I haven't been moved up the lineup!

yeah, but you can't skate backwards.

 

[Statto]

All depends on how aggressive, you are, passive means 1 guy hashmarks, 2 blue line, 2 redline you are waiting.....if you want it to be ultra aggressive, which is what I like, you have 1 guy hounding in the corners, 1 guy on the wall, 1 guy in the slot, and the 2 guys are on the blueline or just out, and then if the puck moves to the other corner, the guy in the slot becomes the hound, guy on the wall busts ass to the other wall and guy in the corner becomes slot.....it's extremely aggressive......you can also teach it as a rotation, where the D comes down and pinches on the wall. the other D slides over, the wall guy comes to D and the corner guy goes to slot.....that's more of a 5 man unit working together, than your typical 3F-2D setup because you will have D out of position utilizing that.

From what Hiller said it seemed to be aggressive, perhaps leaning towards high aggressive in how they intend to do it. He’s obviously not going to go into great detail at this point as it’d show his hand.

I expect how aggressive it is will depend on how well they execute as a group. It’s also something they can tweak fairly easily depending on opposition.

 

[GoldenBearHockey]

From what Hiller said it seemed to be aggressive, perhaps leaning towards high aggressive in how they intend to do it. He’s obviously not going to go into great detail at this point as it’d show his hand.

I expect how aggressive it is will depend on how well they execute as a group. It’s also something they can tweak fairly easily depending on opposition.

Would love to see them utilize 5 man units rather than focus on forwards have one job, D has another etc, it has it's place, but when you are forechecking if you can work as a 5 man unit, it's so fun to watch and its effective, the only thing I wanna see F1, F2, F3 designated for is on the rush attack, F1 is the puck carrier, F2 drives the middle, F3 drags behind....and then just shoot and crash.....hockey really is that simple at times....all these systems/coaching have overblown it

 

[mysterman2]

Love seeing the clips of Jeannot....I already liked him on others teams so will be great to see him on the Kings this season. Will suck when he becomes a UFA and we cant resign him and watch him sign on with the Ducks/Sharks/Vegas.

 

[King'sPawn]

My bad, Safari blocks spam content by default. I tried watching, but it was a chore listening to Denis Savard. So, I asked google to explain the difference.

Turns out the top result is an HFBoards thread. Looks like it’s a tweak on playing the trap. I guess that’s the best the brain trust could come up with after finally getting some time to think it over. Better work because we know that is absolutely impossible to change anything mid season where a first round exit is a must have requirement.

View attachment 908300

It's a cool 2-minute-ish video if you want to try another browser.

The 1-3-1 is actually more passive as it tries to stop play from crossing center ice. The 1-2-2 has one forechecker that tries to force turnovers due to support of the other two forwards moving up to try to cut off breakout options.

 

[GoldenBearHockey]

It's a cool 2-minute-ish video if you want to try another browser.

The 1-3-1 is actually more passive as it tries to stop play from crossing center ice. The 1-2-2 has one forechecker that tries to force turnovers due to support of the other two forwards moving up to try to cut off breakout options.

You can actually make the 1-3-1 aggressive, extremely so, but that involves a lot of rotation, a lot of communication and if it does break down, you expose a lot of out numbered opportunities....1-3-1 in the neutral zone, works if you are up 3....and are short benched, etc, but play the 1-3-1 in the offensive zone as a forecheck, and it's beautiful to watch when executed properly

 

[Telos]

Hiller is really likable in his interviews. Very forthright, honest, direct, and seems to think things through well. I can see him being a very popular coach. Hoping for the best for him and this season with what they've cooked up and how it all applies on the ice.

 

[Surf Nutz]

Kings need an ultra physical camp causing a few injuries so they don't lose guys on waivers.

Kaliyev was the first target waiting to see who has secret bullseye #2.

 

[Little Psycho]

According to Berstein he’s gonna miss months and will require surgery. That’s f***ing sucks.