Speculation: Another year of this Bluc **** (The 2024-25 season thread)

[BaileyFan]

Fair - sometimes sarcasm is hard to pick up. Especially when I'm fairly dense to other people's humor.

I took it as more serious/sincere when there was a reference to the playoffs being a coin flip away

I thought saying we were a coin flip from the Cup would make it fairly obvious. But we were right there and all.

 

[King'sPawn]

I thought saying we were a coin flip from the Cup would make it fairly obvious. But we were right there and all.

Sorry, I suck at detecting other people's jokes

 

[tigermask48]

Seeing how Laffy is playing makes me kinda forget about Vilardi.

Maybe Kings are eyeing Timothy Liljegren.

The way Laf is playing makes me miss Vilardi even more. Can you imagine Laf and Vilardi together on the same line?

 

[Statto]

I thought saying we were a coin flip from the Cup would make it fairly obvious. But we were right there and all.

Yeah, it’s only to be taken seriously when it is uttered by Luc.

 

[AbsentMojo]

The way Laf is playing makes me miss Vilardi even more. Can you imagine Laf and Vilardi together on the same line?

And another thing to consider is there would be an extra approx 4 mil cap space to work with if they hadnt blundered into the PLD fiasco and just signed him to a bridge.

 

[KingsFan7824]

Going with 11 & 8 was fine in principle if they used them properly. If they used them as experienced vets to provide solid ‘scaffolding’ for young prospects it’s a sound strategy. It just needed patience. They (Luc IMO) then jumped the gun, for whatever reason. Sure it may have been another couple of years missing the play-offs but now there would be a much more solid foundation in place with an established new core. There should then have been a chance for 11/8 to get a run in the last year or two of their careers. More importantly there would be ea new core, raised by the vets, that would then allow the Kings to compete at the top end for a sustained period. Sure there is a lot that can go wrong with any strategy but with competent drafting and development it pretty much guarantees a competitive team, if not a cup.

The approach was fine but the execution, hampered by exiting the rebuild 2 seasons early, has been a clumsy mess.

I’m hardly posting as it’s just replying to rehashed, repeated posts bitching about the same stuff, mostly the same 2 or 3 trades and couple of questionable development decisions which is utterly boring to me (even if the posts are correct). However your thousand years comment made me bite (not saying that’s a bad thing)… it doesn’t take an additional thousand years… they just needed an extra 2.

I'm not saying they need 1,000 years to rebuild, I'm saying there's never an end for the opportunity to rebuild. If not this year, there's next year to do it, or in 5 years. There's always another 18 year old to draft.

There was never an intention to rebuild. When DL was fired, they were not hired to rebuild. They weren't winning the Cup, but they weren't hired to rebuild. If they didn't completely suck that one year, there's never a Byfield, Turcotte, or Clarke.

Which team that's locked into big contracts, trying to win, plays their 30-ish year olds less? If you're keeping Kopitar and Doughty between the ages of 30 and 35, which is what they chose to do, that's not a mentorship period. If that's your choice, you have to get something for the money. If it's just a couple playoff home dates, unless something crazy happens, that's the road they picked.

 

[DoktorJeep]

I'm not saying they need 1,000 years to rebuild, I'm saying there's never an end for the opportunity to rebuild. If not this year, there's next year to do it, or in 5 years. There's always another 18 year old to draft.

There was never an intention to rebuild. When DL was fired, they were not hired to rebuild. They weren't winning the Cup, but they weren't hired to rebuild. If they didn't completely suck that one year, there's never a Byfield, Turcotte, or Clarke.

Which team that's locked into big contracts, trying to win, plays their 30-ish year olds less? If you're keeping Kopitar and Doughty between the ages of 30 and 35, which is what they chose to do, that's not a mentorship period. If that's your choice, you have to get something for the money. If it's just a couple playoff home dates, unless something crazy happens, that's the road they picked.

So, you’re saying mistakes were made as far as major decisions go then?

 

[FSL KINGS]

Hoping that Blake isn't discouraged & has another crazy trade up his sleeve. E. Karlsson, Risto, or even a S. Jones!

Something absolutely insane.

 

[Surf Nutz]

Wouldn't it be goalie the Kings are looking for among other positions?

Have fun monday morning the Kings moves for infinity.

I built up an immunity to those comments!

thanks guys!

Also how do you put yourself on ignore?

 

[Bandit]

Hoping that Blake isn't discouraged & has another crazy trade up his sleeve. E. Karlsson, Risto, or even a S. Jones!

Something absolutely insane.

Eva der Kane for Turcotte and a first.

 

[tigermask48]

There was never an intention to rebuild. When DL was fired, they were not hired to rebuild. They weren't winning the Cup, but they weren't hired to rebuild. If they didn't completely suck that one year, there's never a Byfield, Turcotte, or Clarke.

This is completely false. It's well documented that the firing of Stevens was the start of the Kings rebuilding. The media said it, the team said it, everyone knew it.
That became even more clear after Wiilie D fell flat on his face and the Kings fell into the 5th overall.

It wasn't until the rebuild was trending faster than expected, and Doughty telling the press he was tired of losing that suddenly it's a retool not a rebuild and Blake starts bringing in veterans.

 

[All The Kings Men]

This is completely false. It's well documented that the firing of Stevens was the start of the Kings rebuilding. The media said it, the team said it, everyone knew it.
That became even more clear after Wiilie D fell flat on his face and the Kings fell into the 5th overall.

It wasn't until the rebuild was trending faster than expected, and Doughty telling the press he was tired of losing that suddenly it's a retool not a rebuild and Blake starts bringing in veterans.

for what it's worth and I don't think it's much...

My recollection was that the preferred vocab at the time was that it was a retool or a reimagining and that nobody ever officially called it a rebuild.

Personally I don't think PR decisions like that matter to anyone but the PR departments but if we're saying that it was only called a retool after the summer of 2021 I'm not sure that's accurate.

 

[Omni Owl]

Someone explain to me how we had a plethora of right handed D-men to being extremely thin in that area. Was keeping Spence really worth losing Faber, Durzi, or Roy? A lot is riding on Clarke panning out.

 

[tigermask48]

for what it's worth and I don't think it's much...

My recollection was that the preferred vocab at the time was that it was a retool or a reimagining and that nobody ever officially called it a rebuild.

Personally I don't think PR decisions like that matter to anyone but the PR departments but if we're saying that it was only called a retool after the summer of 2021 I'm not sure that's accurate.

Granted, it's one source only and not linked directly to the team:
Willie Desjardins is no lock to be Kings coach during rebuild

 

[MonkeysUncle]

Someone explain to me how we had a plethora of right handed D-men to being extremely thin in that area. Was keeping Spence really worth losing Faber, Durzi, or Roy? A lot is riding on Clarke panning out.

Very easy to explain, Kings management..

 

[King'sPawn]

This is completely false. It's well documented that the firing of Stevens was the start of the Kings rebuilding. The media said it, the team said it, everyone knew it.
That became even more clear after Wiilie D fell flat on his face and the Kings fell into the 5th overall.

It wasn't until the rebuild was trending faster than expected, and Doughty telling the press he was tired of losing that suddenly it's a retool not a rebuild and Blake starts bringing in veterans.

From what I recall, the Kings officially didn't decide to rebuild until December of 2018, when they were pretty far back. That's why they did the Muzzin deal.

They traded Pearson for Hagelin in November.

 

[Peter James Bond III]

And another thing to consider is there would be an extra approx 4 mil cap space to work with if they hadnt blundered into the PLD fiasco and just signed him to a bridge.

They also would have been able to not be ‘forced’ Kuemper to get rid of PLD and had opportunities to acquire a better goalie. Maybe Ullmark? Could have beat the sens deal.

 

[AbsentMojo]

Someone explain to me how we had a plethora of right handed D-men to being extremely thin in that area. Was keeping Spence really worth losing Faber, Durzi, or Roy? A lot is riding on Clarke panning out.

I think after Durzi 's emergence the nirmrds knew they couldnt afford to sign him after his cheap deal expired after last season, and decide to let Spence take his spot since he'd be cheap.. probably all motivated because they wanted to use that cap space for their love child PLD.

 

[Statto]

I think after Durzi 's emergence the nirmrds knew they couldnt afford to sign him after his cheap deal expired after last season, and decide to let Spence take his spot since he'd be cheap.

Whilst I didn’t think Durzi was the answer (still don’t) that line of thinking is exactly how it should be, it is why there is value in depth and youth on cheaper cost controlled deals. The issue is what they then did with the cap space.

 

[Sol]

That’s why the biggest mistake was holding onto doughty for so long. We never got to see what we really had because that dork was playing half the game

 

[Statto]

That’s why the biggest mistake was holding onto doughty for so long. We never got to see what we really had because that dork was playing half the game

His ice time is down to the coach first and foremost. If the coach can’t control that then yes you trade him and that applies to any player. Less ice time would be beneficial in the long term for both the team and his career longevity. He probably plays at a higher level also. The same applies to Kopi.

I must stop posting…. I get grumpy (not with you Sol, just in general).

 

[FSL KINGS]

His ice time is down to the coach first and foremost. If the coach can’t control that then yes you trade him and that applies to any player. Less ice time would be beneficial in the long term for both the team and his career longevity. He probably plays at a higher level also. The same applies to Kopi.

I must stop posting…. I get grumpy (not with you Sol, just in general).

Being a King's fan causes grouchiness.

I'm grouchy about the Edmundson. Was he paid 3.8M to be a bottom pair D when Englund was fine there & cheap? Was Edmondson brought in to be a second pair D when Gavrikov & Mikey are ahead of him? Makes no sense.

That's 7.2M? On Foegele & Edmundson. Why?

 

[chris kontos]

we're-on-the-fast-track-to-the-top
Z-O-O-M

 

[Little Psycho]

Wait Darcy got injured? I have to laugh

 

[Buddy The Elf]

So whose car is this?