Annual LTIR discussion: Bill Zito-Tkachuk regular season over, hopes he'll be back for the playoffs

[Monsieur Miz]

Seth Jones mentioned the lifestyle not the taxes... You can maybe fix the taxes but nothing you can do about the main selling point for NBA, NFL, and NHL players...the unbelievable weather and entertainment options.

Nobody wanted to play in Florida before they got competent management. Seth Jones was sick of playing for a dogshit team, it's not that complicated.

 

[IceManCat]

Nobody wanted to play in Florida before they got competent management. Seth Jones was sick of playing for a dogshit team, it's not that complicated.

We weren’t comparing competitive vs not competitive teams. We were comparing desirable destinations and why they might choose Florida over say Toronto. It’s not that complicated.

 

[Summer Rose]

Nobody wanted to play in Florida before they got competent management. Seth Jones was sick of playing for a dogshit team, it's not that complicated.

It’s probably a combination of factors. If all the other factors are equal, Florida (in the form of both the Panthers and the Bolts) have an advantage that some markets simply lack completely. I agree with your point to an extent, however. Denying it as a factor is foolish, but it’s probably just overstated. It’s not like free agents flock towards the state of Florida in droves, and having that slight leg up can be rendered a moot point if the organization is incompetent.

 

[Ratsreign]

Nobody wanted to play in Florida before they got competent management. Seth Jones was sick of playing for a dogshit team, it's not that complicated.

That’s still not about taxes, though.
No one wanted to come to jokeFL org for the tax advantage

 

[PaulD]

I'm not a fan of this rule but I never hated teams using it, my opinion won't change because it's Florida. Obviously he's legitimately hurt, and if his season's over this thread is moot but my assumption is he'll be back. Now Florida has a ton of space and imo far and away the best GM (unequivocally top 3) to add to a team that's won the President's Trophy and went to back to back Finals the past 3 years. If Florida joins Chicago, Tampa, and Vegas and wins it all again, does this finally bring any changes?

Hope not. Great rule in a cap league. Top players demand and are worth big chunk of the allowed cap space. If one goes down to injury it's just tough luck?
No , player x absence due to injury frees up cap space. Period.
Spend it wisely.

 

[Chips]

I do not and will not ever have a problem with this so long as the league evaluates the LTIR usages (as in check with actual doctors), which they do. Players aren’t “suddenly healthy”. They’re more than likely still hurt but that’s the gray area hockey culture created.


Every team is allowed to do it. Not every team is capable. Every team has injured players, not every team is good enough to lose a star or has actual trade currency.

Props to the teams who can do it lol


Let the yearly whining commence!

 

[Laus723]

Panthers won the Cup last year without needing LTIR even though other teams still utilizing LTIR.

Tkachuk played in the Finals with a broken sternum, and scored, he didn’t play in the final game at 4 nations, he’s legit hurt. Think he’s been hurting since Kucherov knee on kneed him. Could be wrong though.

All that said, I hate the loophole and am glad we won without it, but there’s no way we repeat without filling in that cap space with a capable player until he comes back.

 

[Roo]

Can’t see Carolina trading Rantanen to FLA

But they’ll do something to exploit the loophole. Why not?

 

[Chet Manley]

Seth Jones mentioned the lifestyle not the taxes... You can maybe fix the taxes but nothing you can do about the main selling point for NBA, NFL, and NHL players...the unbelievable weather and entertainment options.

Really!? Players choosing lifestyle has kind of been the kiss of death for places like TO and NYR. Will be interesting to see what happens.