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Blueline Bomber said:
Thats your prerogative, but it doesn't make it any less illegal.
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We're talking about ethics, not legality. If we're getting into legality than going 1 mph over the speed limit is technically illegal, I don't think you'd make an argument that, said person would be morally wrong though.
 
Blueline Bomber said:
Thats your prerogative, but it doesn't make it any less illegal.
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So you think beach towns should have cops regularly arrest those riding back from a bar on a bike? Surely all those bikers will start coughing up hundreds a month to Uber instead, right?

After all, like you said, illegal is illegal !

Lou Bloom said:
We're talking about ethics, not legality. If we're getting into legality than going 1 mph over the speed limit is technically illegal, I don't think you'd make an argument that, said person would be morally wrong though.
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The 'illegal is illegal' types always have soemthing to say until it involves them

You know damn well any right-minded person is pissed if they get a ticket for going 32 in a 30 lmfao; but they wont tell you that on a forum-board cause theyd never be caught dead going over the speed-limit
 
WhiskeyYerTheDevils said:
Yeah I'm sure you've never had a drink before if you think being drunk means you don't pick up on that sort of tone. It was unnecessary and unprofessional.

Like I said earlier, there are plenty of people in the service industry that deal terrible customers who are often way more disrespectful than Brunette and they are expected to do so while treating the customer with respect.

For some reason we grant police significantly more authority but hold them to lower standards of behavior.
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People, including me, who've had so many drinks they believe they can tell a cop they weren't in the drivers seat of an open-backed golf cart caught in the cruiser's headlights, that it was actually his long blonde-haired wife still sitting in the passenger seat who did the driving, is shitfaced.

And if you're so shitfaced you're telling such ridiculously blatant lies with his comical "act normal just act normal" face , you aren't going to be picking up on anything you think you are at the time. I'm sure he thought he was being a genius at that point. It's almost as if....it affects one's judgment...including about oneself, what one hears, sees, etc etc.

I reiterate...he was so drunk he actually thought saying his wife driving sounded so believable it came out of his mouth. When it did, compounded by the subsequent feeble attempts deception, his level of inebriation was immediately apparent.

Yeah, no. That's movie-level stupid. Funny as hell stupid. And if he wasn't who he is, you'd be laughing too. All Brunette heard from the cop was an agreeable tone like you did when your parents ooo-ed and aaaaaah-ed over the Christmas card you decorated with macaroni and glitter. The only difference is the fact you were 4 means anyone within earshot didn't take it as sarcasm.

Brunette wasn't treated disrespectfully, not even close, and he was treated with kid gloves for a guy who has a guaranteed trip to the station. Customer Service people aren't charged with arresting anyone or placing them under physical restraint, let alone taking someone somewhere against their will (that would be considered kinapping) For that, they call cops. CS personal put up with loads of BS, but the jobs are entirely different.
 
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Lou Bloom said:
We're talking about ethics, not legality. If we're getting into legality than going 1 mph over the speed limit is technically illegal, I don't think you'd make an argument that, said person would be morally wrong though.
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As someone who has been ticketed for going less than 5 miles over the speed limit, I can absolutely say that "illegal is illegal." Was I pissed at the cop? ABSOLUTELY. Could I argue that I wasn't speeding? No.
 
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NHL Fanatik said:
They were not public streets - its a gated community

If youre going to attempt to attack a mans character, at least try to get simple details down correctly
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What does being in a gated community matter? Is he the only one that is inside the parameters of this gated community?
 
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Blueline Bomber said:
Thats the thing. If there was even the hint of excessive force, I’d be all over the cop as well. But, at least from the video provided, it looks like everything was done by the book.
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Same. I'm super glad that the second officer let him know what's up right away when he tried to walk away. I'd want my partner to do everything possible to assure we both go home safe every night, too. Fighting drunk people shouldn't be expected as 'part of the job'.
 
Blueline Bomber said:
As someone who has been ticketed for going less than 5 miles over the speed limit, I can absolutely say that "illegal is illegal." Was I pissed at the cop? ABSOLUTELY. Could I argue that I wasn't speeding? No.
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Again, that's legality. I'm talking about ethics.
 
Lou Bloom said:
We're talking about ethics, not legality. If we're getting into legality than going 1 mph over the speed limit is technically illegal, I don't think you'd make an argument that, said person would be morally wrong though.
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There's a difference between driving while impaired and going 1 mph over the speed limit.
 
Talking threatening smack to your “perp” who you’ve pulled over because he “didn’t come to a complete stop” is a bad look, especially when the person involved has shown no sign of violent behavior and has been calm throughout…even when he tried to walk away. It’s another thing if he’s all over the road, rude, angry or being threatening in any way. He’s a drunk middle aged dude, they’ve got him under control at all times.

Equally bad look to be that tanked driving a cart around and trying to say your wife drove, then dropping the coach card. You’re under the microscope when you’ve got notoriety like he does, and people are always waiting for you to trip up so he should’ve known better than to take the chance in the first place.

I am curious of the culture of the area in terms of how people drive their carts around, and how much AB was actually pushing his luck here. Still, you’re a celeb on some level. Don’t put yourself in a spot where someone can come at you, even if it’s a bit of an eye roll. I don’t know the area. If he’s driving down broadway in the middle of the road with cars around him vs a quiet neighborhood where everyone gets around by cart and 90% of them have booze on board because that’s the way it is there. If it’s considered ok as long as you aren’t dumb while keeping to yourself does make a difference about how bad I think this is.

Still…..first world problems. Both sides acting entitled.
 
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Blueline Bomber said:
As someone who has been ticketed for going less than 5 miles over the speed limit, I can absolutely say that "illegal is illegal." Was I pissed at the cop? ABSOLUTELY. Could I argue that I wasn't speeding? No.
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No no, take it as far as you wanna go

So you do realize youd be unemployed because of driving over the speed limit right? Cause if you were pulled every time you did it, youd have had your license revoked. And by definition any time the MPH drops, youre over it before you slow down.

So your argument is every driver in the world drives illegally and should be charged as such each and every time? Gee, lot of unproductive people if we take every license away!
 
Blueline Bomber said:
As someone who has been ticketed for going less than 5 miles over the speed limit, I can absolutely say that "illegal is illegal." Was I pissed at the cop? ABSOLUTELY. Could I argue that I wasn't speeding? No.
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Why would you be pissed at the cop? You were the one endangering people lives by speeding.
This is inexcusable behavior by yourself and yourself only, and I hope you've learned a valuable lesson.
We're just lucky to have amazing police officers like the one that caught you around to keep your dangerous driving in check.

BTW before you blow a gasket, I'm just joking.

I can see both sides of this argument, it's a little power trippy for the cop to pull him over for "slowing down real good, but not coming to a complete stop" but Brunette is also stupid for driving while under the influence, (assuming of course he was in fact drunk) even if it's driving a golf cart on empty streets.
 
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For everyone complaining about the snarky remarks the cop said; it pales in comparison to the amount of snark found on this forum.
 
In most states a 14yo can drive a golf cart

Someone point to me the states you can drive a car or truck at 14? Been a while since I looked yaknow, cant be too certain
 
Lou Bloom said:
He's driving a golf cart, stop with this holier than thou attitude. He's probably being more responsible than majority of people who go to bars late at night by not operating a vehicle that can actually do real damage.
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"Relative responsible-ness". And this sort ironclad logic is why so many continue to get arrested, injured, with the occasional melon fatally cracked out on the roads.

Here's a thought. Instead of that false either/or choice, how about an Uber? Taxi? Have his wife stay sober to drive?
 
NHL Fanatik said:
As soon as you say you wanna start charging any and all skateboarders and bikers who are drunk
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If a biker hits and kills/seriously injures a pedestrian going full speed while drunk, then I'm not gonna have a lot of sympathy for them.

I dunno why you feel so strongly about the rights of the drunk peeps to operate vehicles, DON'T. DO. IT.
 
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Louie the Blue said:
It's still operating a motor vehicle that could cause injury or death if someone's being stupid. Probably not as common as a regular car. See below.

www.wbtv.com

Man pleads guilty in 2022 Gaston County golf cart death

When first responders arrived, 18-year-old Gabby Carrigan was found unconscious and not breathing.
www.wbtv.com www.wbtv.com
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You're more likely to die or get seriously injured walking home drunk than you are driving a golf cart drunk. How you can't see the difference between someone impaired in vehicles capable of going 100+ mph and weighing on average 4,100 pounds vs a vehicle capable of going 15+ mph and weighing on average 900 pounds is beyond me.

The risk is minimal of someone getting injured operating a golf cart even impaired, no matter what anecdotes you bring up. Just compare golf cart related injuries to any outdoor activity (biking, sports, outdoor jobs) and you'll see how little risk there is compared to most activities in life.
 
WarriorofTime said:
If a biker hits and kills a pedestrian going full speed while drunk, then I'm not gonna have a lot of sympathy for them.

I dunno why you feel so strongly about the rights of the drunk peeps to operate vehicles, DON'T. DO. IT.
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In addition to bikers or skateboarders being possible risks to traffic related accidents more-so than they currently are while sober.
 
Louie the Blue said:
Given that both could cause accidents and injure people, I don't see that as a problem.

You're defending someone for drunk driving.
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Okay Im glad I finally got you to say it

So now realize what youve done here; youve said no biking and no skateboarding drunk. So what? You think people will magically stop getting drunk? Or will they now fly home?

By you charging folks for drunk biking and skateboarding, youre now forcing them to get behind the wheel of a car. Or do you seriously thonk someone who bikes to the bar will now start shelling out hundreds to Uber? Lmfao

Thats the funniest part about the 'illegal is illegal' crowd; yall have zero concept of how the world actually operates. Good luck instilling zero tolerance for every law in the book, Im sure your work force wont stall and everyones liceneses wont be revoked

I wish I could believe we lived in a crystal palace like you think we do. It seems blissful, at least
 
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