Mrb1p
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You have to realize youre not getting full value for a guy that hasnt had one healthy season since 2018-2019 and is currently on pace for 55 points.
Love the player, but hes not the player you drafted in 2018.
Value of: Andrei Svechnikov
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Love the player, but hes not the player you drafted in 2018.
Dead Coyote
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I'd easily ship out Beniers and Montour or Dunn and a few other picks for Svech. Doubt that's what Carolina wants but uh...*looks at the Seattle Roster* that's what we got!
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We really, really, really need to fill a RW spot in the top six in Ottawa.
Unfortunately don’t have the assets to acquire Svech but he would fit nicely on the Sens.
Giroux ain’t cutting it.
Unfortunately don’t have the assets to acquire Svech but he would fit nicely on the Sens.
Giroux ain’t cutting it.
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Mrb1p
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Because hes playing 3rd line minutes and not being very succesful and you have a pretty uneven roster, and havent really had success in the last 3-4 years. Maybe you want to shake it up? Use him to bolster another spot?
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Using this logic I guess Guhle is a cap dump. How many draft picks would you package with Guhle to get rid of him since he is never healthy?
spockBokk
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A misguided Canes’ fan.
They’re not going to trade Svechnikov for a managerienof futures. No, he’s likely not pulling a Demidov or similar asset, but the Canes have no reason at all to sell low on him, especially with all the smurfs they have up front.
Mrb1p
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Guhle is amazing when hes on the ice though, hes playing like a true #1.
Pretty unlucky injuries too.
Has Svechnikov been a stud on that level?
I also never suggested Svechnikovs value is this low, its just not Suzuki, Hutson, Demidov. Id entertain something around any other players. Maybe not Guhle.
Mrb1p
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Well thats fine, I think his value is somewhere around what Necas and Cozens, no?
It's always like this here
But then when trades happen the value is like 40% of what the average fan here thinks
Especially wingers
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Filter NHL.com for all RWs who've played more than 20 games this year and Svetchnikov is 25th in points per game despite having a down year.
The narratives that I'm seeing here to try to paint him as a cap dump is just bs. His 7.8m contract might be a wee bit high but not by much, maybe a million too much.
I see him as a 2 firsts value player, likely even higher than that. Anyone saying that Carolina has to sell low on him is either misinformed, naive, or silly.
The narratives that I'm seeing here to try to paint him as a cap dump is just bs. His 7.8m contract might be a wee bit high but not by much, maybe a million too much.
I see him as a 2 firsts value player, likely even higher than that. Anyone saying that Carolina has to sell low on him is either misinformed, naive, or silly.
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The roster has already experienced significant turnover. 9 (!) of the 18 skaters from the 2024 playoff lineup are elsewhere.
A shakeup trade is unwarranted. There won’t be a cap related motivation either; there’s a copious amount of space available.
OP, from what I saw in the Nadeau thread, is penciling in Blake on the top line full-time before seeing how a small line like that performs in the playoffs. The mock 2nd line was Hall - Kotkaniemi - Stankoven. I don’t think so.
Mrb1p
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Who said hes a cap dump? Pretty big disparity between being worth Demidov and being a cap dump.
Younger, big C, similar contract and dimilar production, less injuries. You think Svech is worth a lot more?
Fair if you dont want it, but some do.
Similar production?
38, 68, 48, 40 in 75
Vs
69, 55 in 64, 52 in 59 and 45 in 64
It’s not similar at all
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Height does not matter for forwards in the playoffs. I’d prefer Carolina have 6’3 defenseman though. If a player can forecheck like Blake can it doesn’t matter about size matchup if he can dig the puck out. Svechnikov is an underrated forward 100%, but this is obviously his worse season by all metrics and he is still generating offense at an elite level. He is also the best forechecker on the Canes according to micro stats. I am just saying that the Canes have too many wingers in the system and you either package a player like Nadeau for a center or you trade Svechnikov for one. You’re telling me if Tags Thompson is available you wouldn’t package Svechnikov, prospect, and a first or two for him? Canes are in desperate need of a center and if Canes are just going to get turnovers from Svechnikov he isn’t worth it even with his offense. Svechnikov at the moment can barely pass without it getting intercepted, I have never watched him play this bad before.
I would also like to add on for non canes fans in this thread that Svechnikov has been one of the best offensive creators in some of his last seasons. He has never been able to finish at a high level though. His playmaking is actually better than his shooting.
Big Daddy Cane
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Balance is a fundamental of roster building. Coaches want it; the much maligned 1st line Martinook is a function of that. GMs do too. Carolina itself has pursued size/jam in the Top 6 in addition to Svechnikov over the years. That's the Ferland trade, the unsuccessful signing of Marchment and the successful signing of Bunting. The tries for Tkachuk and Meier were more about skill, but also fit the pattern.
Svechnikov+ for Thompson? Sure. That's a scenario in which the other player's availability motivates a trade. A different scenario than the thread implies.
