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Player Discussion Andrei Kuzmenko

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FLAMESFAN said:
Him & Pelletier will become quick friends I'd guess. Both have that eternal happiness.
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Sharangovich supposedly does that type of thing quite often too. I think these guys are underrated glue guys in the room. Gotta protect that vibe. It keeps the team chill in high pressure situations. :)
 
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The small clips of Hubes, Rango, and Kuzy in their first practice is hilarious. Because all 3 guys, speak English as a second language, so they all joke about what language to speak on the ice. Nice to see these 3 have a little bit of instant chemistry over the first few days together.
 
Florida played a very open game the year they got bounced in the first round, then tightened up and went deep.

When Huberdeau got traded, it was total opposites of Florida in terms of game type, a more structured game is what you need come playoff time, as Florida discovered, but Huberdeau wasn't going to put up those points again.

Kuzmenko, or similar is exactly what was needed to get Huberdeau going, now the flames will score 4-5 a game and likely go deep in the playoffs.
 
Lunatik said:
I hope Lindholm does well for y'all too. Not well enough that you win anything, because you know rivalries and we have your 1st 😂
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Ha ya fair.. funny enough i want to see you guys make the playoffs

I dont have the normal rivalry dislike for the flames.. plus you guys have so many players i like personally

Now the coilers are a different pile
 
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andora said:
Now the coilers are a different pile
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Okay, you can stay.

Personally, the Nucks never seemed like a real rivalry to me, it was what was there when we were still decent and Edmonton was finishing dead last most seasons. It's fun, and there is something there, but it just never hit the same.
 
Khrox said:
Okay, you can stay.

Personally, the Nucks never seemed like a real rivalry to me, it was what was there when we were still decent and Edmonton was finishing dead last most seasons. It's fun, and there is something there, but it just never hit the same.
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Its funny.. dont tell my son in law that haha.. he cant stand the flames.. more than oilers

I mean i guess i can see it.. van cal have had more of a back and forth from i remember, i am 40 so i remember the 90s and the battles i remember more vividly than anything edmonton.. but i have always disliked edmonton more versus never minding the flames

Maybe it is part city too haha i dont like edmonton too much but i like calgary

Flames also dont have an arrogant aura around them either
 
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Volica said:
Huberdeau's been waiting for someone like Kuzy for two years.
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THIS, I said since the trade, florida and calgary were totally opposite hockey teams, Sutter is a structure more old school team, and Florida was very loose at that time. It's not a coincidence since Maurice added some structure they're now in the finals 2 years in a row.

Huberdeau needs high end goal scorers with him, very much the Kuzmenko type.

Perfect pick up, Sharagraovich as well is in that realm.
 

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There's no way Conroy and co. are seriously that dumb. Signing Kuzmenko would lock 3 top six winger spots for the foreseeable future. And that on a team whose top forward prospects are literally all wingers.

This better be a case of them trying to drum up up trade value and nothing else.
 
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There's no way Conroy and co. are seriously that dumb. Signing Kuzmenko would lock 3 top six winger spots for the foreseeable future. And that on a team whose top forward prospects are literally all wingers.

This better be a case of them trying to drum up up trade value and nothing else.
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Moving Rango to C helps to solve that somewhat. We've also had issues acquiring top 6 RW for almost a decade and kept converting LW to address it. Top 6 RW options drops off rapidly from Rango, Kuzmenko and Coronato. But not just that, top 6 RHS players aren't plentiful either.

As much as I'd love to trade Kuzmenko at the TDL first and then sign him as a UFA, I wouldn't be opposed to him straight up extending if it keeps the AAV lower. Calgary had a great reputation for having fantastic value contracts. I'd be happy if this was continued.
 
Figgy44 said:
Moving Rango to C helps to solve that somewhat. We've also had issues acquiring top 6 RW for almost a decade and kept converting LW to address it. Top 6 RW options drops off rapidly from Rango, Kuzmenko and Coronato. But not just that, top 6 RHS players aren't plentiful either.

As much as I'd love to trade Kuzmenko at the TDL first and then sign him as a UFA, I wouldn't be opposed to him straight up extending if it keeps the AAV lower. Calgary had a great reputation for having fantastic value contracts. I'd be happy if this was continued.
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Sharky isn't a great centerman though. Zary's better but either way, locking up all these spots at the beginning of a rebuild is just bizarre management.

Kuzmenko's too similar to Huberdeau and the Flames are already stuck with the latter for basically forever.
 
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Some Other Flame said:
There's no way Conroy and co. are seriously that dumb. Signing Kuzmenko would lock 3 top six winger spots for the foreseeable future. And that on a team whose top forward prospects are literally all wingers.

This better be a case of them trying to drum up up trade value and nothing else.
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A) W have an unreasonable amount of open forward spots after this season. As of now Huberdeau, Rango, Kadri, and Coleman are the only forwards across our entire roster with more than 2 years term, and Coleman would have a year of term. We have insane amounts of room.

B) what’s the point of “opening a spot” if we don’t have a single prospect capable of matching his production down the line? If posters want to be competitive by 2026-27, what prospect do we currently have capable of even fluking a 40 goal or 70 point season like people claim Kuzmenko did? Gridin has an outside shot at the latter if he hits his full ceiling, but that’s a big if.

Going scorched earth turns you in to Buffalo. Never be Buffalo.
 
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A) W have an unreasonable amount of open forward spots after this season. As of now Huberdeau, Rango, Kadri, and Coleman are the only forwards across our entire roster with more than 2 years term, and I’d bet Coleman doesn’t finish his contract a Flame. We have insane amounts of room.

B) what’s the point of “opening a spot” if we don’t have a single prospect capable of matching his production down the line? If posters want to be competitive by 2026-27, what prospect do we currently have capable of even fluking a 40 goal or 70 point season like people claim Kuzmenko did? Gridin has an outside shot at the latter if he hits his full ceiling, but that’s a big if.
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Being properly competitive by 26-27 is wishful fantasy regardless of what management says or the tantrums Murray Edwards throws. Especially for an organization still so morbidly afraid of giving young players the necessary experience to grow into better players.

The Flames are stuck with Huberdeau. Sharangovich is a far better winger than center. They clearly see Zary as a winger even though he's not. Pospisil almost certainly ends up as a winger too. The only way Coleman moves is if he asks for a trade. So that's 4-5 spots already filled.

Meanwhile the Flames have Basha, Honzek, Gridin, Coronato, Pelletier, Suniev, Stromgren, Battaglia, Misa (virtual guarantee that the Flames convert turn him into a winger) plus Bell & Ciona as potential 4th liners in the system.

Kuzmenko is an entirely one dimensional powerplay specialist that will be turning 29 relatively soon. The second any team signs him to a longterm contract at 5M+ is the moment they have an anchor contract on their hands that they'd have to pay to unload.
 
Yepthatsme said:
A) W have an unreasonable amount of open forward spots after this season. As of now Huberdeau, Rango, Kadri, and Coleman are the only forwards across our entire roster with more than 2 years term, and Coleman would have a year of term. We have insane amounts of room.

B) what’s the point of “opening a spot” if we don’t have a single prospect capable of matching his production down the line? If posters want to be competitive by 2026-27, what prospect do we currently have capable of even fluking a 40 goal or 70 point season like people claim Kuzmenko did? Gridin has an outside shot at the latter if he hits his full ceiling, but that’s a big if.

Going scorched earth turns you in to buffalo. Never be Buffalo.
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“Scorched earth”. The Flames look like they’ll have 4 players under 25 on their roster. Wolf, Zary, Bahl and Pospisil. 5 if you count Pelletier.
 
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