Value of: Andreas Athanasiou
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Maurice of Orange
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I'd only trade AA for a top 5 pick, even then I'd have to think about it really hard. AA is a beast. Perfect player for today's NHL which emphasizes speed and skill.
Maurice of Orange
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I'd like some Detroit fans opinions, Who's the faster skater, Athanasiou or Larkin
If I had to pick I'd go with Athanasiou
Athanasiou has to be one of the fastest skaters in the NHL, atleast in the top 10 for sure.
If I had to pick I'd go with Athanasiou
Athanasiou has to be one of the fastest skaters in the NHL, atleast in the top 10 for sure.
id say larkin comes in 3rd behind aa and helm. would be nice if the coaches would take advantage of that speed this year.............
Most are in agreement that AA is faster. Probably both top 5 fastest skaters in the league.
Maurice of Orange
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I could imagine a line of Athanasiou-Helm-Larkin coming up the ice faster then all hell blowing by the opposing defence moving mach 6.
Problem though with a AA-Helm-Larkin line would be that all 3 players are left handed shots and they are all centres.
It would also put Detroit's 3 fastest forwards on one line, putting the other 3 lines at a skating disadvantage against Detroit's opponents.
Dbrownss
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What if you turned Fowler into Shattenkirk? Would everyone be happy then?
That's a totally unrealistic asking price. Essentially, what you're saying is he's untouchable, so just say it.
HisNoodliness
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I think now is a bad time for a AA trade thread. As wings fans we've been watching him for years and most of us think he's going to be at worst a third liner that pots 15-20 goals a year which is quite good from the third line. He has all of the tools and talent in the world. He may or may not learn how to play with the best of them in the top 6 as a complete player that uses his teammates effectively and thinks the game like a star.
Because he's uncertain and has very little NHL exposure and time, other GMs and fan bases will undersell him and feel he's worth a late first at most (I would too if I hadn't been watching him for so long), but the guy's potential is sky high and I'd hate to trade him for anything. I'd definitely do a top 10 pick, begrudgingly accept top 15 and reject anything worse than that. He's essentially untouchable for many wings fans and I don't think any of us would move him for less than a top 15 pick. I don't think the wings would move him for anything short of a young D with #1 potential and I doubt any of you are clamoring to offer that.
Because he's uncertain and has very little NHL exposure and time, other GMs and fan bases will undersell him and feel he's worth a late first at most (I would too if I hadn't been watching him for so long), but the guy's potential is sky high and I'd hate to trade him for anything. I'd definitely do a top 10 pick, begrudgingly accept top 15 and reject anything worse than that. He's essentially untouchable for many wings fans and I don't think any of us would move him for less than a top 15 pick. I don't think the wings would move him for anything short of a young D with #1 potential and I doubt any of you are clamoring to offer that.
HisNoodliness
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For me Mantha over Nyquist easily. Sure Mantha could still bust but I doubt it. The kid is just a beast. He knows how to score and has some crazy tools. I honestly think he has the potential to be one of the best players in the world, but there's no guarantees he makes it at all.
Nyquist is a known- commodity, and that works in his favor but he's essentially a very good second- line winger. He's excellent at taking advantage of opportunities and space but he can't create them for himself. That's what separates him from a star. Mantha could be a star.
Plus Nyquist is significantly older and the wings need to build for the distant future. By the time we contend (if it happens) Nyquist will be past his prime. Mantha might still be in his. So because the wings need to rebuild I prefer the younger guy with more potential. For a contender Nyquist is the easy choice.
The Zetterberg Era
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It might be deferring to the veteran, but both guys have said Helm is the fastest guy on the team...
The Wings have three of the 10 fastest skaters in the world. Not sure what it will mean, but with the direction of the league it doesn't seem like a bad idea. AA is probably a little faster than Larkin in terms of the initial question in my opinion.
Wouldn’t deal AA now, probably not in the near future either. I think he could have a 20-20-40 (If he plays regularly and with line mates) and his value would be a lot higher after that.
Anyone who sees him as a slightly better Helm is nuts. Just watch this video. You could take Helm's career highlights and try to put together a video with half as many nice plays as that and probably not be able to do it. AA has a great shot and unreal hands. Helm has made an nhl career out of being fast and a hard worker, that's it.
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I'd happily move the Sharks 1st for AA. He's an absolute stud. He's worth probably a mid 1st.
I have him very high in my books.
Couldn't believe he was a 4th rounder.
That skating ability and teams passed over on the guy like crazy.
Put him with Larkin and their speed makes them a top 6 line that drives other teams crazy.
I'll throw a big name player in a deal for AA.
Couldn't believe he was a 4th rounder.
That skating ability and teams passed over on the guy like crazy.
Put him with Larkin and their speed makes them a top 6 line that drives other teams crazy.
I'll throw a big name player in a deal for AA.
I tend to agree that both AA and Helm are slightly faster than Larkin in a straight goal line to goal line dash, but where Larkin leaves them(and everyone else) in his wake is in his "cornering" speed. Whereas most players would naturally accelerate coming out from behind the net, I swear it seems to me that Larkin actually speeds up as he goes behind the net, usually leaving the defender(s) grasping for straws as he does his wrap around.
I think that these 3 would make a great line. Larkin in the middle, AA on the left with Helm playing right wing. Their sped would dominate-Helm provides net front presence while Larkin and AA provide the finish.
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It would take a lot more than Edler to get either AA or Mantha as part of a package.
Halla
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wow. take off the rose colored shades. AA is a good prospect, bu he was pretty mediocre in the AHL before his decent 10g/5a in 42 game stint in the NHL.
he is nowhere near a top 5 pick. mid 1st rd in the teens? possibly
Number1RedWingsFan52
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Would definitely consider it for a signed Shattenkirk, Shatty is definitely what we need more so then Fowler Shattenkirk or Trouba should be the ones we should target at any cost.
