Value of: Andersson or Weegar

Benstheman

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In 2025 summer, Habs offer :

Habs 2026 1st (top 3 protected)
Columbus 2026 2nd
1 of Newhook/Dach
Logan Mailloux

For

Andersson extended to a 8 X 7,5M$ AAV
Pospisil
 

crackdown44

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In 2025 summer, Habs offer :

Habs 2026 1st (top 3 protected)
Columbus 2026 2nd
1 of Newhook/Dach
Logan Mailloux

For

Andersson extended to a 8 X 7,5M$ AAV
Pospisil

Only the first is really interesting to me here as a Flames fan. Mailloux isn’t a position of need, Dach/Newhook is meh, and sneaking Pospisil in there from Calgary is dirty work lol
 
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Bounces R Way

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It may be controversial, but I would dangle Power for Weegar and Coleman as the basis of a deal.

I don't know what to make of Power. What is his deal?
The athletic tools scream future upper echelon #1D, but holy shit does he look lost out there a lot. Toolbox issue? Like is the game too fast for him? Often that gets ironed out with experience but sometimes it doesn't. Huska might be a great coach for him, lot of young dmen have thrived under his coaching.
 
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biturbo19

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I don't know what to make of Power. What is his deal?
The athletic tools scream future upper echelon #1D, but holy shit does he look lost out there a lot. Toolbox issue? Like is the game too fast for him? Often that gets ironed out with experience but sometimes it doesn't. Huska might be a great coach for him, lot of young dmen have thrived under his coaching.

I'd say a lot of Power's issues are just in that he just generally lacks intensity and urgency. Not necessarily that the toolbox isn't there or he can't keep up with the game...more just that, he doesn't seem to want to. Plays in a lot of sort of soft, loopy ways. It feels like his superlative tools have let him play so long that way, he just hasn't learned to play a more direct game. Defensively in particular, he just takes some kind of sloppy paths and keeps some kind of lazy gaps, details are kind of lax, probably because he's always had the tools to make up for it. And still sort of does, even at the NHL level to some extent.


Some guys manage to improve that with time and coaching. I'd say Hanifin had some similar struggles earlier in his career and improved a lot in that. Other guys though, just don't have that pace and mentality in them. Which one Power is...he's still a good player either way, but he definitely has such enormous headroom and all the tools to be an absolute stud if he grasps that concept better.
 

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I'd say a lot of Power's issues are just in that he just generally lacks intensity and urgency. Not necessarily that the toolbox isn't there or he can't keep up with the game...more just that, he doesn't seem to want to. Plays in a lot of sort of soft, loopy ways. It feels like his superlative tools have let him play so long that way, he just hasn't learned to play a more direct game. Defensively in particular, he just takes some kind of sloppy paths and keeps some kind of lazy gaps, details are kind of lax, probably because he's always had the tools to make up for it. And still sort of does, even at the NHL level to some extent.


Some guys manage to improve that with time and coaching. I'd say Hanifin had some similar struggles earlier in his career and improved a lot in that. Other guys though, just don't have that pace and mentality in them. Which one Power is...he's still a good player either way, but he definitely has such enormous headroom and all the tools to be an absolute stud if he grasps that concept better.

Based on that review, it would have to be Power++ for Pettersson. 😉

Is Byram simply outperforming Power?
 

Some Other Flame

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What Power and pretty much all of the Sabres high picks need is actual mentorship from high end players aged 27+. Guys who have seen most of what the league has to offer, actually won something at that level; someone they can actually learn from by even just watching how they prepare during the season.

Trading Power for Weegar+Coleman would ironically just perpetuate the problem.
 

Fjordy

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Based on that review, it would have to be Power++ for Pettersson. 😉

Is Byram simply outperforming Power?
Not exactly. Power is better offensively, moves the puck better, has size that he uses sometimes. Byram is a more complete and experienced player and it is not surprising considering the organization he came from. Power is not very good at defense yet, but no one taught him that, he often plays in pairs with marginal players, he did not have a mentor, they just threw him in the ocean to flounder. I think Power has more potential than Byram and I rate his value higher than Byram. Byram played mainly in pairs with our best defenseman Dahlin and his numbers improved because of it.
What Power and pretty much all of the Sabres high picks need is actual mentorship from high end players aged 27+. Guys who have seen most of what the league has to offer, actually won something at that level; someone they can actually learn from by even just watching how they prepare during the season.

Trading Power for Weegar+Coleman would ironically just perpetuate the problem.
We need vets on the team, proven and good players. Weegar seems like the perfect guy for that. Idk about Coleman, I liked this player in previous seasons, now I can't say much about him.
 

Ledge And Dairy

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I think if he wants the full 8 year extension his number starts with a 7 tbh. In fact if he extends in October of next year, like Weegar did when he had a year left on his deal, 7 flat would be the exact same % of the cap (if it’s 92.4 as projected for next season)

I could see Ras maybe getting 7.5 but I don’t think it starts with an 8 unless he’s taking less term
The cap will be 100M+ when his next deal kicks in, he's absolutely getting a deal with an 8
 

HuGort

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It may be controversial, but I would dangle Power for Weegar and Coleman as the basis of a deal.
Giving up a lot of years aren't Sabres? Power 21 and Weegar 31.

I doubt they trade Weegar if it signals rebuild for Flames. Because no way Andersson will re-sign there if rebuilding.
 

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