Confirmed with Link: [ANA/STL] Cam Fowler and 2027 4th round pick for 2027 2nd round and Jeremie Biakabutuka

[70sSanO]

Agreed, was also something talked about long. Score his 1000 game was in question.

So no reason to be upset that he didn’t get it in Anaheim, sounds like it wasn’t something that was very important to him.

Getzlaf is the only Duck with 1000 or more games.

He probably called up Pat and told him he’d go light on Trouba if Cam didn’t make it to 1000.

John

 

[All Mighty]

Yesterday Fowler mainly played with Faulk and their on-ice numbers were pretty awful. Today he's playing with Parayko and they've been very good.

 

[WhatTheDuck]

@Zegs2sendhelp Blues win, the streak is over

 

[Ducks DVM]

@Zegs2sendhelp Blues win, the streak is over

And he led the Blues in ice time, behind only Fox for the entire game

Have to see how that lasts.

 

[WhatTheDuck]

And he led the Blues in ice time, behind only Fox for the entire game

Have to see how that lasts.

The charts were fond of him tonight

 

[Leonardo87]

Fowler looked really good. Rangers also suck now. Lol.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

@Zegs2sendhelp Blues win, the streak is over

Now time for him to start a win streak.

 

[MMC]

Gotta imagine Fowler was mailing it in a bit here this season since he was ready to move on

 

[slippingsloth]

Hey if both cam and ducks go on winstreaks that is the definition of a win win lol

 

[gunnergunther]

The charts were fond of him tonight

led them in ice time as well, lol. Starting to feel we're like the pre-mcdavid oilers. The place where players and prospects go to be ruined.

 

[12ozPapa]

it’ll be the same with Gibson. He’ll throve elsewhere. Him and Fowler have been through shit here in ANA. Hope Fowler ends up on a contender and gets a Cup

 

[Dr Johnny Fever]

I really can't understand, now that Cam is gone, why some people can't just let it go and leave him alone FFS. Nothing he did here cost us a Stanley Cup and I'm pretty sure he didn't run over anybody's dog either.

 

[Hockey Duckie]

Yesterday Fowler mainly played with Faulk and their on-ice numbers were pretty awful. Today he's playing with Parayko and they've been very good.

Fowler and Faulk are two OFD's. That pairing was bound to fail, especially if they're not sheltered via OZ start%. Fowler with a better defensive talented partner was always a good outcome. It worked well for Fowler with Manson, Gudbranson, and Hakanpaa.

 

[Ducks in a row]

You all said that this guy is a scrub and a flower. Yet you are not happy with a 2nd? As if the other team is going to give you a first because of sentimental value

I am not one of those.

Getting a 2nd round pick and a 22 year old prospect that had been playing in the ECHL for Fowler and a 4th round pick isn't anything to be happy about for me. Also I wanted to see him play 1000 games as a Duck.

 

[TopShelfWaterBottle]

His trade request was public not sure why people here expected a good return for a 33yr old dman whose numbers have been garbage

Add all that up and we should be stoked we got a second

 

[LuGBuG]

I really can't understand, now that Cam is gone, why some people can't just let it go and leave him alone FFS. Nothing he did here cost us a Stanley Cup and I'm pretty sure he didn't run over anybody's dog either.

He was a good teammate and professional his entire tenure and a good player for a long time as well. Gets way too much hate. Should be thanked and applauded for his time with the Ducks. He better get a massive applause when he returns.

Gotta imagine Fowler was mailing it in a bit here this season since he was ready to move on

Not sure if he was technically mailing it in but the stress of knowing your moving, at some point, while trying to play well in a role you should not be in is probably pretty mentally draining. At this level the mental game is so important.

 

[Hockey Duckie]

He was a good teammate and professional his entire tenure and a good player for a long time as well. Gets way too much hate. Should be thanked and applauded for his time with the Ducks. He better get a massive applause when he returns.


Not sure if he was technically mailing it in but the stress of knowing your moving, at some point, while trying to play well in a role you should not be in is probably pretty mentally draining. At this level the mental game is so important.

When the GM "asks" you to open up the number of teams to be traded to beyond your NTC limit during the summer, then you already know the org is holding the door open to kick you out. Verbeek has been actively trying to shop Fowler since "asking" Fowler to increase the number of teams to be traded with. Fowler's situation is similar to Trouba's situation with the Rangers, but with less public toxicity. If Trouba's play can be affected, then so too the possibility with Fowler. Although, describing affected play as "mailing it in" is a significant knock on Fowler's character. No one on this board said that Trouba was "mailing it in", but often cited that his play was affected by the public toxicity. Our situation was mostly behind the scenes, but same situation of a GM wanting to get rid of a player.

Cronin made some slight changes to the system to where the d-men can pinch more often because we have an offensive problem. Fowler was injured during that change in the system. When Fowler returned, he scored 2 pts (0g, 2a) in five games. The previous 12 games, he scored 2 pts (0g, 2a).

Anaheim was about three minutes from losing the game in regulation against a like-minded team with Columbus. Difference between the Toronto and Columbus ending was that a forward did cough up the puck in the Toronto game to reduce our chances of winning. Many Duck fans love to blame Fowler for all the team's problems when the team has been worse this year than last year, but points are better due to amazing goaltending. The same many Duck fans that want Gibson traded for the past few years.

 

[Deuce22]

When the GM "asks" you to open up the number of teams to be traded to beyond your NTC limit during the summer, then you already know the org is holding the door open to kick you out. Verbeek has been actively trying to shop Fowler since "asking" Fowler to increase the number of teams to be traded with. Fowler's situation is similar to Trouba's situation with the Rangers, but with less public toxicity. If Trouba's play can be affected, then so too the possibility with Fowler. Although, describing affected play as "mailing it in" is a significant knock on Fowler's character. No one on this board said that Trouba was "mailing it in", but often cited that his play was affected by the public toxicity. Our situation was mostly behind the scenes, but same situation of a GM wanting to get rid of a player.

Cronin made some slight changes to the system to where the d-men can pinch more often because we have an offensive problem. Fowler was injured during that change in the system. When Fowler returned, he scored 2 pts (0g, 2a) in five games. The previous 12 games, he scored 2 pts (0g, 2a).

Anaheim was about three minutes from losing the game in regulation against a like-minded team with Columbus. Difference between the Toronto and Columbus ending was that a forward did cough up the puck in the Toronto game to reduce our chances of winning. Many Duck fans love to blame Fowler for all the team's problems when the team has been worse this year than last year, but points are better due to amazing goaltending. The same many Duck fans that want Gibson traded for the past few years.

Fowler isn't a victim here. His play was uninspired, he was open about wanting a trade. Verbeek has made moves that are open to criticism, but this isn't one of them.

 

[70sSanO]

The only thing that separates Fowler from any number of other vets was the length of time he spent with one team.

While Stamkos wasn’t traded he was essentially shown the door with a, “Thanks for the cups. Good luck.”

Their truth of professional sports is older players decline and teams either move them or sign them to stupid contracts that only reflect what they once did that will not happen again.

Fowler was never a #1. Which is the reality that despite their “great” drafting, the Ducks haven’t really hit on a true #1. Lindholm was perhaps the closest, but he lacked an offensive mindset.

Fowler didn’t bring us a cup nor lose a cup. He had a good run with good contracts. Moving hm was good for everyone involved.

John

 

[Smirnov2Chistov]

So.. is the ‘prospect’ in this trade just a basically no name throw-in? No disrespect of course

 

[MMC]

Although, describing affected play as "mailing it in" is a significant knock on Fowler's character. No one on this board said that Trouba was "mailing it in", but often cited that his play was affected by the public toxicity. Our situation was mostly behind the scenes, but same situation of a GM wanting to get rid of a player.

I mean I didn't say it outright but sure, I think that could fairly be applied to Trouba in NY this season as well

 

[Firequacker]

So.. is the ‘prospect’ in this trade just a basically no name throw-in? No disrespect of course

Biakabutuka is a fantastic name, no idea what you're talking about.

(But yeah that's what it seems like, just contract balancing.)

 

[Gliff]

So.. is the ‘prospect’ in this trade just a basically no name throw-in? No disrespect of course

Just to balance out contracts.

 

[robbieboy3686]

I mean I didn't say it outright but sure, I think that could fairly be applied to Trouba in NY this season as well

Trouba is a few years younger than cam, a former captain, Big and right handed. All of that said… Trouba >>> Fowler moving forward

 

[Ducks DVM]

Fowler isn't a victim here. His play was uninspired, he was open about wanting a trade. Verbeek has made moves that are open to criticism, but this isn't one of them.

Not trolling, where was he open about wanting a trade? All I’ve seen is him being open to one, after Verbeek brought it up, and it seems like it was made clear he wasn’t wanted.

All I’ve seen were insiders saying they’d heard he wanted to play for a contender, I never heard a word about him wanting out from anyone Ducks or Ducks adjacent.

I think the issue with Verbeek is that he is always the one throwing in the sweetener, whilst never receiving one.