Confirmed with Link: [ANA/SEA] Brian Dumoulin for 2026 4th round pick

[ZegrassyKnoll]

I like this move. LaCombe or Fowler must be on the way out.

Fowler isn't getting moved and I don't see LaCombe getting moved right now either. It would be selling low.

 

[AngelDuck]

Fowler
Mintyukov
Zellweger
LaCombe
Vaakanainen

The writing is definitely on the wall for at least one LHD

 

[JAHV]

I like this pickup. Good PKer. Solid bottom 4 guy (preferably bottom 2). But there's a huge logjam on the left side now unless Zellweger and LaCombe/Vaakanainen all move over to the right.

 

[WhatTheDuck]

I remember liking him in the past and have called for us to acquire him when he seemed to fall out of favor in Pittsburgh, so I don't hate this at all. A pretty darn proven veteran D who barely cost more than a Ben Meyers

I like this pickup. Good PKer. Solid bottom 4 guy (preferably bottom 2). But there's a huge logjam on the left side now unless Zellweger and LaCombe/Vaakanainen all move over to the right.

When Verbeek made his comment about playing guys on their proper side, I swear he just forgot to name Zell as an exception. Had the kid playing his off side on the top pairing with barely any NHL experience. I have no problem considering Zell a RD moving forward, he looks completely comfortable and possibly more dangerous over there.

 

[ZegrassyKnoll]

I remember liking him in the past and have called for us to acquire him when he seemed to fall out of favor in Pittsburgh, so I don't hate this at all. A pretty darn proven veteran D who barely cost more than a Ben Meyers

Yeah I can't tell if the price is good or concerning.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

Of course, because he has to play half a game as other D man cannot withstand such minutes throughout the whole season. Of course we have seen him play

This is just what fowler sympathizers say…. But ignore the fact that fowler can’t do it either

 

[ZegrassyKnoll]

This is just what fowler sympathizers say…. But ignore the fact that fowler can’t do it either

Fowler can't do it but if you place any other player on our roster in the same spot it would become
"[That Player] can't do it" and we would just be burning them out too.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

Fowler can't do it but if you place any other player on our roster in the same spot it would become
"[That Player] can't do it" and we would just be burning them out too.

the argument of comparing 1st year players to 14 year vets isn’t really a great one.

People around love to give fowler any sort of credit but none of the blame, making up excuses for him 24/7

 

[JAHV]

I remember liking him in the past and have called for us to acquire him when he seemed to fall out of favor in Pittsburgh, so I don't hate this at all. A pretty darn proven veteran D who barely cost more than a Ben Meyers



When Verbeek made his comment about playing guys on their proper side, I swear he just forgot to name Zell as an exception. Had the kid playing his off side on the top pairing with barely any NHL experience. I have no problem considering Zell a RD moving forward, he looks completely comfortable and possibly more dangerous over there.

Yeah, Zellweger looked fine over there. I've got no problem with that. And maybe Luneau is the other RD, but they'll have Vaakanainen/LaCombe over there until Luneau is ready.

Fowler - Zell
Mintyukov - Gudas
Dumoulin - LaCombe/Vaak (Luneau eventually)

 

[ZegrassyKnoll]

the argument of comparing 1st year players to 14 year vets isn’t really a great one.

People around love to give fowler any sort of credit but none of the blame, making up excuses for him 24/7

Who else would Fowler be replaced with? And if you think he would be replaced by whoever he is traded for, why on earth would we receive a better player in return for him if he is as bad as you suggest?

 

[Vaakou]

Credit to Fowler for what he has done, but he is at best a 4th/5th D-man now.

 

[WhatTheDuck]

Yeah, Zellweger looked fine over there. I've got no problem with that. And maybe Luneau is the other RD, but they'll have Vaakanainen/LaCombe over there until Luneau is ready.

Fowler - Zell
Mintyukov - Gudas
Dumoulin - LaCombe/Vaak (Luneau eventually)

Judging by the timeline they've kept most of our top prospects on, and the way they talk about the kid, I think Solberg is firmly in the conversation by 2025/26

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

Who else would Fowler be replaced with? And if you think he would be replaced by whoever he is traded for, why on earth would we receive a better player in return for him if he is as bad as you suggest?

I’ve never suggested we’d get a better player for him… chances are we’d get a pick prospect and cap dump

Team won’t turn the corner till we rid ourselves of cam fowler

Plenty of people to replace him with, but a rhd would be a start

 

[TheStuntman]

While I like the move, I don't understand. Verbeek re-signed Vaak and now has a logjam at LD with this trade. There's gotta be another move in the works.

 

[ZegrassyKnoll]

I’ve never suggested we’d get a better player for him… chances are we’d get a pick prospect and cap dump

So the plan is to trade Fowler and then force a new, worse player to play those minutes? Or one of the 2nd year players?

 

[LeBrun is a Clown]

While I like the move, I don't understand. Verbeek re-signed Vaak and now has a logjam at LD with this trade. There's gotta be another move in the works.

This,

It simply doesn’t add up

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

So the plan is to trade Fowler and then force a new, worse player to play those minutes? Or one of the 2nd year players?

Where did you get all that from

 

[Lord Flashheart]

the argument of comparing 1st year players to 14 year vets isn’t really a great one.

People around love to give fowler any sort of credit but none of the blame, making up excuses for him 24/7

The argument is pretty simple, Fowler is eating tough minutes so we don't have to throw players who are developing, and on who we are counting on to be more or less important pieces of our future, to the volwes.

 

[Hockey Duckie]

He doesn’t play the right side but he’s an outstanding fit for this roster. This move makes me think that we could see a 3rd pairing of

Dumolin-Luneau

We really need an RHD to play with Mintyukov or Zellweger now

Small sample, but LaCombe looked okay with Minty.

Mintyukov	splits
Game Set	Games	G	A	Pts		+/-	Hits	Blocks	Pair
1 to 63	63​	4​	24​	28​		-20​	85​	65​	.
1 to 20	20​	1​	10​	11​		-1​	30​	24​	Lybush 3rd pair
21 to 40	20​	1​	7​	8​		-10​	26​	19​	Lyubush, 2nd P, injury
41 to 47	7​	1​	3​	4​		-2​	10​	2​	Lyubush
48 to 55	8​	0​	2​	2​		-5​	6​	13​	Gudas, top pair
56 to 62	7​	1​	2​	3​		0​	11​	7​	LaCombe
63	1​	0​	0​	0​		-2​	2​	0​	Lindstrom

Gudas was struggling when his minutes increased.

We have two more seasons with Gudas. Hopefully, someone will emerge between Helleson, Warren, and (hopefully) Moore. Otherwise, we're going to rely on left shooting D to play RD such as Zell, LaCombe, and Hinds. All three have played RD either in the AHL or NHL this season. All three have played RD exclusively in juniors or NCAA.

 

[91Fedorov]

Credit to Fowler for what he has done, but he is at best a 4th/5th D-man now.

Why stop there? He's at best a 3rd string water boy now! He's at best the 4th guy I would want to serve me my fries now.

1st in points, 1st in assists, 2nd in goals, 1st in time on ice, I think you're being a little rough on the Fowler. Our team seems to disagree, a bit.

 

[Vaakou]

Fowler won't be traded. But he/the team would benifit from a lesser role.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

The argument is pretty simple, Fowler is eating tough minutes so we don't have to throw players who are developing, and oh who we are counting on to be more or less important pieces of our future, to the volwes.

Bring in someone that better compliments those guys... fowler doesnt compliment any of our young guys.

If the goal is a high pick, by all means captain cam can lead the way.

 

[ZegrassyKnoll]

Where did you get all that from

Well like you said, we wouldn't be trading Fowler for a better player, we'd be trading him for a cap dump/picks/prospects.

So that means our options are to either playing a worse player in those minutes, throwing one of our 2nd year players into those minutes, or miraculously finding a top pairing LD for this off-season. He will be a great fit with our equally-miraculous RD that we are picking up lol

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

Well like you said, we wouldn't be trading Fowler for a better player, we'd be trading him for a cap dump/picks/prospects.

So that means our options are to either playing a worse player in those minutes, throwing one of our 2nd year players into those minutes, or miraculously finding a top pairing LD for this off-season. He will be a great fit with our equally-miraculous RD that we are picking up lol

Doesnt mean you can go out and get a better dmen with assets... i just dont think fowler would really accomplish that goal based on value alone.

 

[Vaakou]

Why stop there? He's at best a 3rd string water boy now! He's at best the 4th guy I would want to serve me my fries now.

1st in points, 1st in assists, 2nd in goals, 1st in time on ice, I think you're being a little rough on the Fowler. Our team seems to disagree, a bit.

jeez calm down. Now your making stuff up. His stats are inflated because he plays alot of minuts. Maybe someone can link the advanced stats, but it wasnt good.