American Thanksgiving standings - 11/28/24

Fenway

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American Thanksgiving is the traditional benchmark to see who is in an NHL playoff spot as the season is a quarter of the way done. So here we are................

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1989

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Even accounting for games in hand/pts %, it's weird to see Edmonton out of the playoffs as of the unofficial predictory cutoff date. I forget if they were also out during Canadian Thanksgiving last month.

Even more damning is the goal differential for Boston (-18?!) and Colorado (-8), and where Calgary (-1) and Edmonton (-5) could be expected to swap places.

I'm interested in seeing how this picture ages by the trade deadline.
 

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Even accounting for games in hand/pts %, it's weird to see Edmonton out of the playoffs as of the unofficial predictory cutoff date. I forget if they were also out during Canadian Thanksgiving last month.

I'm interested in seeing how this picture ages by the trade deadline.
Nashville is the :huh:
 
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Nashville is the :huh:
They were Trotz'd. I mean the gripes for "ice time going to Stamkos etc" is funny to me, I mean what did they expect? You can't sign Marchessault and Stamkos and play them less than they were with their previous teams with the cap hits they are. Stamkos is playing around the same ice time he was in Tampa and Marchessault is the same for his ice time with VGK and Nashville, so naturally that means 2 new players eating up ice time they are used to and your GM gets them and you kind of have to work with it, it means the rebuild gets crapped on because the GM got super excited at the previous season's surprise showing.
 
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Luigi Lemieux

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I see the standings mostly holding up except for one of Detroit/Buffalo/Ottawa overtaking Boston and Edmonton moving into a playoff spot over one of Calgary/LA.
 

1989

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Nashville is the :huh:
Maybe if you only woke up from a coma in July until now. I think Nashville is a surprise at dead last, but are you saying you definitively envisioned them as a playoff contender in the West? The wildcard gatekeepers in that conference as of the last few seasons are all decently built, IMO.

I'm always suspicious of teams that make big splashes in FA no matter the time of year as they seem to underperform; teams that make less noise seem to find more success through systematic buy-in of strategy and culture.
 
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I see the standings mostly holding up except for one of Detroit/Buffalo/Ottawa overtaking Boston and Edmonton moving into a playoff spot over one of Calgary/LA.

Boston is looking better with Sacco after four games. In their home loss to Vancouver, they faced a hot goalie. It seems obvious now Montgomery wanted to get fired because he knew the Blues would hire him.

IF Detroit makes the rumored coaching change :popcorn:
 

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Wouldn't surprise me at all if the final standings in the East end up looking like this. In the West, I assume the Oilers will take a playoff spot at the expense of the Flames or the Kings. The Avs will probably move into a top-3 spot in the central
 

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American Thanksgiving is the traditional benchmark to see who is in an NHL playoff spot as the season is a quarter of the way done. So here we are................

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Eastern Conference:

In the bottom half - not a single surprising thins in the East. Yeah I personally would have liked to see Pitt do a bit better, and people maybe expect NYI to contend for playoffs (they're still close), but all the expected teams are there

At the top - only true surprise is Washington. Will their strong start be enough to make playoffs in the end? It could be, but I don't think people expected them to do this well, so I could also see them drop with struggles throughout the season.


Western Conference:

In the bottom half - Nashville stands out big time. Huge off season moves, expectation was they'd fight for divisional lead, not last place in NHL. Still time to turn their season around. I'm 50/50 on them still making a run at playoffs, I think they do, but I'm not convinced anymore.
Oilers may be on the outside looking in - but doesn't really matter. They'll qualify. They did the same thing last year, nothing too alarming.

Top half - Winnipeg obviously has had an all-time great start. I actually thought they'd be a bubble team this year and barely miss playoffs. At this point - I'm thinking they definitely make the playoffs, but I suspect they still slow down a lot. Wild is the only other big surprise. I also had them as more of a bubble team, so will be interesting to see how they do.
 

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Even accounting for games in hand/pts %, it's weird to see Edmonton out of the playoffs as of the unofficial predictory cutoff date. I forget if they were also out during Canadian Thanksgiving last month.

Even more damning is the goal differential for Boston (-18?!) and Colorado (-8), and where Calgary (-1) and Edmonton (-5) could be expected to swap places.

I'm interested in seeing how this picture ages by the trade deadline.
last year the Oilers were 5-12-1 at American Thanksgiving and 10 points back of a playoff spot...luckily they won't need to go 24-3 to get back into the race

in 2022-23 they were 10-10 and a point back of the playoffs at Thanksgiving

slow starts are synonymous with this group
 

mphmiles

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Even accounting for games in hand/pts %, it's weird to see Edmonton out of the playoffs as of the unofficial predictory cutoff date. I forget if they were also out during Canadian Thanksgiving last month.

Even more damning is the goal differential for Boston (-18?!) and Colorado (-8), and where Calgary (-1) and Edmonton (-5) could be expected to swap places.

I'm interested in seeing how this picture ages by the trade deadline.
Colorado has the worst all situations goaltending in the league by almost 2 percentage points (.857!!) and they're still 3 games over .500, which is crazy.

If, over the course of the rest of the season, they get to a point where they're only getting bad goaltending, instead of catastrophic goaltending- they should make the playoffs easily.
 

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Nashville is the :huh:
IMO they aren't.

I know a lot of people jumped on their bandwagon after the summer they all thought Trotz had...

But the reality is he added a lot of really old players, there was a reason Tampa was willing to let its captain and face of the franchise walk, and a reason Vegas was willing to part with another original misfit.


I think the reality for Nashville is they're just a really old team now and father time continues to prove he is undefeated.
 

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