I mean you can’t really hate a player that was a bust, in some ways “not his fault”
Alright, I'll be the one to ask. Why do we hate PLD and Jeff Carter but Laine gets a pass?
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Screw that Mikko Koivu guy! Put him on the Mount Rushmore of whatever we are going to call it - Foote, Carter, PLD, and Koivu.
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Carter and PLD were almost opposite ends of the spectrum of extremes, with Laine’s situation in the middle.
Carter’s situation was never going to work out due to his attitude. It made sense why he’d be bummed/pissed… but he was still a giant baby. He never wanted it to work in Cbus and/or never tried to make it work.
PLD WAS working out in Cbus. Things were going well. Then, inexplicably, he gave up on it. It’s almost more baffling than Carter, because it never really made sense for PLD to be angry. Still completely bizarre.
With Laine, he tried to make it work, but due to little fault of his own (not no fault of his own, just little), it just wasn’t working, both individually and with the CBJ as an organization. For both club and player, moving on made sense.
That being said, I don’t have an attachment to Laine. He didn’t really accomplish anything while he was here. But I don’t feel animosity toward him like I did PLD or Carter.
Carter’s situation was never going to work out due to his attitude. It made sense why he’d be bummed/pissed… but he was still a giant baby. He never wanted it to work in Cbus and/or never tried to make it work.
PLD WAS working out in Cbus. Things were going well. Then, inexplicably, he gave up on it. It’s almost more baffling than Carter, because it never really made sense for PLD to be angry. Still completely bizarre.
With Laine, he tried to make it work, but due to little fault of his own (not no fault of his own, just little), it just wasn’t working, both individually and with the CBJ as an organization. For both club and player, moving on made sense.
That being said, I don’t have an attachment to Laine. He didn’t really accomplish anything while he was here. But I don’t feel animosity toward him like I did PLD or Carter.
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I don’t give laine a pass at all. I think he phoned it in the past 2 years and I don’t buy his mental health break last season. I just don’t think he wanted to be here and that was proven when he asked for a trade.
I think Dickweed and PLD both deserve more animosity due to their blatant lack of effort. I am more indifferent to Laine because I don't think he had the skill set to move the needle. He wanted to perform, but couldn't. Part of that (IMO) was his unwillingness to accept a proper role within the team structure. He tried to do too much. Which also falls on coaching. The other two would never be accused of trying to do too much.
I never got the sense PLD was ever angry, really. It’s his lack of hockey passion or in a sense emotion that’s his stumbling block EVERYWHERE HE LANDS. Except for the infamous “last shift” I have no animosity toward the player.
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I guess that may have been where I was going with this thread. I firmly believe that mental health is important, but I just couldn't imagine many players just straight up leaving their team.
Psychiatrists and psychologists could tell you different stories... .
Besides, if someone wants to change their whole life, including their number (he would change it even if #29 in Montreal wasn't wearing Dryden), leaving the team is no surprise.
Anyone who knows me understand I'm biased, but even trying to be neutral about it, it seems pretty obvious to me Laine really tried to be part of taking the team to the next level both on and off the ice, but it didn't work out and not only was he constantly injured, those injuries happened early on so that by the time he could've come back, the team was already completely out of it anyway.
It's true he ended up quitting (after a fashion) with the trade request and entering PAP (whichever came first, I forgot) but then again he lost his father not all that long ago and had a concussion which seemed pretty bad, and depression is one well-known side effect... and even without those things my first choice wouldn't be to assume it was just a way to avoid playing for the Jackets anymore, I just don't like to think worst of people unless I have very good reason to.
It's true he ended up quitting (after a fashion) with the trade request and entering PAP (whichever came first, I forgot) but then again he lost his father not all that long ago and had a concussion which seemed pretty bad, and depression is one well-known side effect... and even without those things my first choice wouldn't be to assume it was just a way to avoid playing for the Jackets anymore, I just don't like to think worst of people unless I have very good reason to.
