trust no one
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ALPS Hockey League 2024/2025.
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trust no one
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Italy : Cortina, Gherdenia, Meran/Merano, Sterzing/Wipiteno, Unterland, Ritten/Renon
Austria : Bregenzwald, Zell am See, Kitzbuheler, Red Bull Juniors, Steel Wings Linz
Slovenia : Jesenice, Celje
Croatia : Sisak
Another note - Sisak will play all three games against Bregenzwald at their place. If they meet each other in playoffs Sisak will play "home" games in Slovenia. This only will be the case in first season.
dinamo1967
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Ah, the Alps Hockey League. I was in Zell am See in March 2020 on a skiing trip with my girlfriend (now wife), and I found out that they had a hockey team. We happened to see the last game of the season at the local arena there, against I think a Hungarian team? Anyway, the score was something crazy, like 12-6 (with no goalies pulled). And at the end of the game, both teams exchanged a few cases of their local beers (Stiegl from Zell am See, of course). It was a lot of fun. But I do remember the arena was very cold inside. And unfortunately, the shop was not open so I couldn't get a jersey. Got home from this trip literally days before COVID broke out in force. Interesting times. I'd love to get back there and see another game.
HungryFrank
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I absolutely didn't expect Sisak to play like this.
Rosandić is amazing, Idžan brothers have great chemistry, Marinković fits in great with them, foreign players are all spot on additions and even Croatian depth players are not at all out of place.
Croatian players born in early 2000s were much less shy about going abroad to pursue their hockey career so Sisak is milking the best generation in long time.
Rosandić is amazing, Idžan brothers have great chemistry, Marinković fits in great with them, foreign players are all spot on additions and even Croatian depth players are not at all out of place.
Croatian players born in early 2000s were much less shy about going abroad to pursue their hockey career so Sisak is milking the best generation in long time.
bv29
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Experts says the youngest one (Matko, 2009.) is the most talented one, which frankly I find hard to believe...
Sisak is doing OK, but they are too dependable on foreginers, which are playing main role. Yes, there is B.Idžan, but the rest are not that impressive. Marinkovic is a fraud and he is collecting points only because he is playing on line with Idzan duo, otherwise too many questionable decisions with the puck. Rest is so-so...
I don't think playing in Alps will change anything for Croatian National team in the grand scheme of things. Only cosmetic, like not losing to Lithuania, Estonia or Korea 12:0, but 10:1 or 9:2. China and Spain looked good last spring, so croatian chances to stay in Division 1B are slim to none.
HungryFrank
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having 8-0-2-0 and being 1st on the table has to be more than "doing OK".
Sure in one small tournament everything can happen and I might understand that you might not expect significant impact on Team Croatia's performance, but we can't deny that 10ish NT players now play together in a semi-pro league significantly stronger league than IHL and allegedly very well coached.
bv29
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I used the wrong words. What I was trying to say is that current position on table doesn't reflects the actual quality of Sisak's roster. I think and I am sure they will nosedive after upcoming NT break.
bv29
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Euforija u Sisku: Možemo sanjati da jednog dana odemo i korak naprijed
KHL Sisak, s većinom hrvatskih igrača, nakon odličnih igara i uvjerljivih pobjeda vodi u Alpskoj hokejaškoj ligi u konkurenciji respektabilnih talijanskih, austrijskih i slovenskih klubova, zbog čega se počelo govoriti o "sisačkoj hokejaškoj euforiji i "sjajnoj priči iz Siska".
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As expected Sisak is on the verge of bankrupcy. They are looking for major sponsor, which basically means "we don't have for salt and pepper".
HungryFrank
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So Austrian hockey federation (ÖEHV), organization struggling with concept that not everyone is a winner, came up with another "genius" idea.
Basically they wanted to start (or repurpose) a league that would be 2nd tier behind ICEHL and be 100% Austrian alternative to Alps. They would take ÖEL (Austrian 3rd tier) teams, add there 3 Alps team and there you'd have it. This league should be on same level as Alps, but less expensive and less demanding so players could go to school in parallel.
1. Amateurism: ÖEL is a beer league, players there have given up on hockey and they barely squeeze 15ish games they play there. Let alone no one there would be ready to travel 7+ hours from one side of Austria to the other.
You can't have high level of hockey in a league where you play "when you have time", to become a good hockey player you need to work hard, not wish it.
2. Infrastructure: Quite decent amount of ÖEL teams don't even have an ice hall, but play outdoor, how can you schedule games then if you need to play 30ish games?
3. Teams: it is a pure miracle that the teams managed to get unity on the concept of ÖEL with western and eastern division, how does one except that they would magically agree to fundamentaly change the way they operate? They can't even get Carinthian teams on board, but that's another funny story
4. Money: that would cost millions if done right
There is best case scenario where 4-5 teams can play Alps, but no farm team BS. ÖEL can strive to become a league like Italian 2nd tier: with 30ish games and being nationwide (for hockey in Italy that means like the upper part), but to hope for some professionalism... that would take 10 years at least.
Thankfully the teams have put an end to this madness and focus on building ÖEL.
Basically they wanted to start (or repurpose) a league that would be 2nd tier behind ICEHL and be 100% Austrian alternative to Alps. They would take ÖEL (Austrian 3rd tier) teams, add there 3 Alps team and there you'd have it. This league should be on same level as Alps, but less expensive and less demanding so players could go to school in parallel.
1. Amateurism: ÖEL is a beer league, players there have given up on hockey and they barely squeeze 15ish games they play there. Let alone no one there would be ready to travel 7+ hours from one side of Austria to the other.
You can't have high level of hockey in a league where you play "when you have time", to become a good hockey player you need to work hard, not wish it.
2. Infrastructure: Quite decent amount of ÖEL teams don't even have an ice hall, but play outdoor, how can you schedule games then if you need to play 30ish games?
3. Teams: it is a pure miracle that the teams managed to get unity on the concept of ÖEL with western and eastern division, how does one except that they would magically agree to fundamentaly change the way they operate? They can't even get Carinthian teams on board, but that's another funny story
4. Money: that would cost millions if done right
There is best case scenario where 4-5 teams can play Alps, but no farm team BS. ÖEL can strive to become a league like Italian 2nd tier: with 30ish games and being nationwide (for hockey in Italy that means like the upper part), but to hope for some professionalism... that would take 10 years at least.
Thankfully the teams have put an end to this madness and focus on building ÖEL.
