All Time Best Players - Lists by their contemporaries

overpass

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Dit Clapper's all-star team in 1945

Goal: Tiny Thompson
Defense: Earl Seibert, Eddie Shore
Left wing: Harvey (Busher) Jackson
Centre: Milt Schmidt
Right wing: Bill Cook

Lionel Conacher in 1953

First team
Goal: Roy Worters
Defense: Eddie Shore, Eddie Gerard
Left wing: Aurel Joliat
Centre: Milt Schmidt
Right wing: Bill Cook

Second team
Goal: Chuck Gardiner
Defense: King Clancy, Ching Johnson
Left wing: Harvey Jackson
Centre: Howie Morenz
Right wing: Charlie Conacher

Aurel Joliat in 1955 (we have his teams from 1936, 1948, and 1962, why not include this one too.)

Joliat gave the best players of his time, he was unwilling to include current players because he didn't watch a lot of pro hockey.

Goal: My old comrade George Hainsworth was the steadiest, Clint Benedict, Georges Vezina, and Charlie Gardiner were excellent and just as good.
Defence: My old playing companion Sprague Cleghorn with Eddie Gerard, then Eddie Shore and Reggie Noble
Centre: Howie Morenz, without equal in centre and also the best player of all time
Left wing: Harvey Jackson
Right wing: Bill Cook

The modern game is not as good as the game we played in our time and I sincerely wonder if the immortal Howie, the greatest player I have ever seen, could do himself justice under today's system.

They say the current game is faster, maybe, but I haven't seen another Morenz or Hector Kilrea since those two speed merchants retired. And another thing, when we skated with the puck, we skated straight toward the net and we didn't go off into the corners of the rink. Since when did they put the nets in the corners?


Sylvio Mantha gave his all time team in the same 1955 article.

Goal: Bill Durnan
Defence: Eddie Shore and Lionel Hitchman, Shore for his full-speed runs and Hitchman for his truly unbeatable defensive science
Centre: Howie Morenz
Left wing: Aurele Joliat
Right wing: Bill Cook

It gives me pleasure to say for publication that Joliat allowed me to extend my career by three years, as he helped me so much in defense. Often it happened that enemy forwards outwitted me, Aurele almost always came back in time to save the situation.
 

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The Winnipeg Free Press sporting editor was apparently asked by a Toronto hoockeyist for a “selection of a world’s champion hockey team… showing no favoritism to either East or West” in 1906. The reply was as follows:

Goal: Dutchy Morrison
Point: Percy Browne
Cover: Harvey Pulford
Rover: Frank McGee
Centre: Billy Breen
RW: Russell Bowie
LW: Tom Phillips

Source: The Toronto Star, 16 March 1906 page 10

Comments-
As you can see, it looks like this is Canada-focused, so we aren't seeing anyone playing in the IPHL here. The big name we'd likely see added if the IPHL was considered would be Hod Stuart at point or cover. That said, Percy Browne was no slouch. Having finally finished going through the Manitoba league from 1892-1909, Browne was definitely a big name and a well-respected player in the West.

Similarly, Pulford is an interesting choice for cover. He did see a decent amount of time at cover (he and Art Moore traded spots pretty frequently), but I would have figured Lester Patrick or even Art Ross (though Ross doesn't really seem to hit his stride until later) would have gotten the nod.

A Browne/Pulford pairing (though it is really less of a "pairing" and more of a "duo") is odd stylistically. Both were big men who received their highest praise for their defensive play and physicality. It would not be fun for forwards to go up against these two one after the other, but I do think that offense is being left on the table (though, yes, Pulford wasn't an absolute zero there).

Dutchy Morrison is definitely not a name I would have expected to see, though that may just be ignorance on my part; I only have 14 games of his logged so far. I'm in the process of doing a little bit of research into Morrison, and it seems like he certainly had his fans, so maybe I'll get some more clarity as I move into the OHA (though that league scares me). Still... over Paddy Moran or Percy LeSueur? That's quite a statement for this editor to make.

The forwards look strange at first, but less-so if we look through the lens of the editor making a championship team and not an all-star team. The first thing that jumps out (to me, at least) is Bowie not at Rover, but at RW. Now, Bowie broke into senior hockey on the wing. I believe it was LW, but I see him with at least some time at wing into the 1900 season. Could he play RW? Maybe. I wouldn't put him there, but I think the editor did it in an effort to get Billy Breen on the team. Breen is one of the players I think the pre-Consolidation project really missed on, because as I went through the league, he seemed like the Bowie of that league. He led the 1906 MHL/MHA/WhateverWeCallIt in goals, second in points only to Tommy Phillips (who also beat Bowie in the only season they played in the same league), an would then turn in one of the most dominating offensive seasons I've seen yet in 1907 when he totaled 22 points and 20 goals when second place had 8 and 8, respectively.

Taking another look at it, a possible explanation for some of the selections could be the attempt to have balance between the East and West. Taking out Morrison, who played in both the OHA and MHA, we see 3 western players (Browne, Breen, Phillips) and 3 eastern players (Pulford, Bowie, McGee).
 

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Lynn Patrick, GM of Boston Bruins and former Ranger great, gave his all-time six in 1958. As reported by La Patrie, Feb 16, 1958:

Goal: Bill Durnan
Defense: Art Coulter, Jack Stewart
Center: Bill Cowley
Left wing: Dave Schriner
Right wing: Bernard Geoffrion

The writer said this was the first time Geoffrion had appeared on such an all-star team, and questioned why Patrick had picked Geoffrion when he had always praised Gordie Howe, and also over Maurice Richard who had a superior scoring record.
Lynn Patrick greatly changes his tune on goalies by 1964.

From The Ottawa Journal - Jan 21, 1964:
Lynn Patrick was asked to "rate the goalies in order of choice over a span of 25 years"

1. Frank Brimsek - "Cool, agile, and with about as good a pair of hands as anybody you can remember, had few flaws in his armor", also admitted that he had trouble scoring on him which may have influenced this.

2. Terry Sawchuk - Despite the situation with him being "one of the sourest experiences of his hockey career."

3. Jacques Plante
4. Glenn Hall
5. Bill Durnan - "Now there was a man with a pair of hands along the Brimsek style when he needed to use them, which was quite often."
6. Chuck Rayer
7. Tiny Thompson
8. Turk Broda
9. Sugar Jim Henry
 

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