All Things Pegula 2

Ace

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I don’t care that Pegula gives season ticket holders puzzles the store doesn’t sell or 40 second video thank yous. I care that he doesn’t give them a fighting chance at a good hockey team by hiring a yes man and spending at the bottom of the league for three straight years with obvious needs on the roster and the assets and money to fill them.
 
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OkimLom

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Also, why have such a big box with such little stuff in it lol
It’s to truly represent what this season has been. On the outside, before we got into it, it seemed promising. Such a large box, surely there’s something of value to it. Get into it, and reality sets in and you’re left with trinkets that barely are worth $10.

I appreciate the work they put into it. It perfectly encapsulates everything the organization has become. We should be so lucky that an organization is so clear of how they see themselves.
 

May Day 10

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LOL wow...



My ticket rep called me at the beginning of the season and capped the call asking who my favorite player was. I said Dylan Cozens because he scores, hits, fights, gets his nose dirty, prototypical Canadian player.

This box came in, had some weight to it, I was convinced it was a Cozens signed jersey. Opened it and felt like I got hit with a pie in the face.


The Sabres have gone through the motions on most fan initiatives since the moment Pegula chose that snake Russ Brandon over Ted Black.

They have stopped trying in many aspects. Sabres hall of fame has been completely ignored for a decade-plus other than the laughable action of retiring Ryan Miller's number.
 

Dulind

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Zero interest in this franchise until Terry sells it and even then, if some buyer packs and moves, my feelings for this team won't be anymore different than today.

"Eff" this owner and the whole management group.
 
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HogtownSabresfan

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I don't understand why a significant portion of the fan base still believes Pegula is using all the financial resources available under the cap to better this team. It's like they were brainwashed. We are saving it for this or that. Just hate these hogwash arguments. You don't have to blame Pegula, and who knows, maybe in some bizarre world, Kevyn Adams just refused to trade cap space for picks or sign an extra player, but the Sabres are under the cap by a decent margin. Last year, if was huge. One thing I will watch for closely is how much they are under the cap in 2024-25. I get saving money for rookie bonuses or even a little extra for a deadline, but this team doesn't look ready to max its resources. And that's without even getting into what is spent on the team away from the cap on coaching, scouting, management and operations. You don't have to have a visceral hatred of Pegula to see some spending limitations being imposed.
 
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Everything Pegs, everything Pegs, I don’t think so!
 
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jd1970

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The Bills are an elite NFL franchise everyone wants to play for and are currently building a luxury sports palace.
Sabres finished last in the NHL 4 of 8 seasons, play in a dump, and no one wants to play for them.

So, did this stranger buy the Sabres just to get the inside track on the Bills?
 

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The Bills are an elite NFL franchise everyone wants to play for and are currently building a luxury sports palace.
Sabres finished last in the NHL 4 of 8 seasons, play in a dump, and no one wants to play for them.

So, did this stranger buy the Sabres just to get the inside track on the Bills?

Probably more akin to the Bills renaissance in the late '80's into the '90's - they lucked into hiring some excellent people in management and coaching positions vs. having consistently lucked out of hiring competent people for their hockey team.
 

DapperCam

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Probably more akin to the Bills renaissance in the late '80's into the '90's - they lucked into hiring some excellent people in management and coaching positions vs. having consistently lucked out of hiring competent people for their hockey team.

I agree that Pegula got very lucky to hire McDermott and Beane. I believe he hired a consultant firm who identified McDermott, and he brought along Beane to be the numbers guy. Then the Bills got incredibly lucky to draft Josh Allen. Looking at Beane's entire tenure as GM, it's mostly just okay (quite a lot of draft misses and bad value free agent contracts).

When Pegula was the one making decisions he hired flop Rex Ryan. When the Bills front office turns over, if Pegula is still the owner, I doubt he will be able to recreate the magic.

It's similar to how Botterill was highly recommended from inner NHL circles, but it just didn't work out the same.
 

joshjull

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I believe McDermott was brought in by a consulting firm hired by Pegula to do the head coaching search after the Rex Ryan debacle. And McDermott brought in Beane. I don’t think it’s a huge coincidence that the couple of hires that have worked out Pegula had limited involvement with.
The coaching search that led to McDermott was run by Whaley. Pegula was involved and it was as dysfunctional as other things they’ve done.
 

jd1970

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Probably more akin to the Bills renaissance in the late '80's into the '90's - they lucked into hiring some excellent people in management and coaching positions vs. having consistently lucked out of hiring competent people for their hockey team.
What actually happened was Ralph Wilson tightened the purse strings after the 1982 strike, and Chuck Knox fled. Ralph loosened the purse strings after seeing 25K at the games.
Pegula tightened the purse strings during a pandemic and here we are.
 

May Day 10

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I agree that Pegula got very lucky to hire McDermott and Beane. I believe he hired a consultant firm who identified McDermott, and he brought along Beane to be the numbers guy. Then the Bills got incredibly lucky to draft Josh Allen. Looking at Beane's entire tenure as GM, it's mostly just okay (quite a lot of draft misses and bad value free agent contracts).

When Pegula was the one making decisions he hired flop Rex Ryan. When the Bills front office turns over, if Pegula is still the owner, I doubt he will be able to recreate the magic.

It's similar to how Botterill was highly recommended from inner NHL circles, but it just didn't work out the same.

Judging from what we have seen publicly, McDermott is the perfect guy to handle a person like Pegula. He probably treats him and his ideas with the utmost respect, but also does what he wants to do in the end. The Sabres have not had that kind of strong-willed executive (I consider NHL GMs and NFL head coaches to be on a similar management plane).

I do think the Bills are heading toward an iceberg. I'm not sure they can stick the landing with this re-tool.
 

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