OT: All Things Coronavirus Covid-19 - Part XI - MOD ADVISORY POST 1

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The U.S has 6 times the population of S. Korea and 20 times more confirmed deaths.

That can't be right!
 

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A windmill killing birds...that's a first. There's more birds crashing into glass panels than windmills.

Trump's War on Solar

as somebody who works in the alternative energy industry selling solar panels this has long been a move of his to shoot down clean energy to prop up coal and oil

he says windmills cause cancer for crying out loud lol

I love that he takes the time to bash alternative energy in the middle of a pandemic though. “Look over here look over here”. We have to keep our eye on the ball
 

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Nevada perhaps more than any state could be devastated economically simple because without the gambling revenue they have very little else.

Florida especially the area around Orlando is going to be hammered with the theme parks closed and the issue for both areas is the same. Do you really want thousands of people that have shown no symptoms flying in without a vaccine?

BUT something much more sinister is looming. Most states depend on steady tax revenue to support pensions and Washington has sent a signal that don't expect help from us.

McConnell says he favors allowing states to declare bankruptcy

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell said Wednesday he favors allowing states struggling with high public employee pension costs amid the burdens of the pandemic response to declare bankruptcy rather than giving them a federal bailout.

“I would certainly be in favor of allowing states to use the bankruptcy route,” he said Wednesday in a response to a question on the syndicated Hugh Hewitt radio show. “It’s saved some cities, and there’s no good reason for it not to be available.”

McConnell says no ‘blue state’ coronavirus bailouts, effectively telling New York to drop dead

Gov. Cuomo has pleaded for a federal bailout for weeks and says New York could suffer a $15 billion revenue shortfall because of the pandemic, with hundreds of thousands of Empire State residents forced into unemployment and businesses shuttered.

The governor did not mince words when asked about McConnell’s comments during an afternoon appearance on WAMC.

“That is one of the saddest, really dumb comments of all time,” the governor said. “OK, let’s have all the states declare bankruptcy. That’s the way to bring the economy back. That’s how you want to reopen by bankrupting the states? I mean, it’s just a really dumb statement.”

One simple fact to remember - The Feds can print money, the states can not.

What the Governor of Georgia is doing borders on insanity and even Trump is uneasy by his actions.



I have a dear friend in Greenville, SC who is a senior manager at an upscale department store (Dillard's) and has been ordered back to work and she is terrified.

We are 6 weeks in and no end in sight - I have no idea what lies ahead. :(
 

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Fox News Stars Trumpeted a Malaria Drug, Until They Didn’t

Laura Ingraham called hydroxychloroquine “a game changer.” But after a month of coverage, she stopped discussing the drug on the air.

Ms. Ingraham declined to be interviewed for this article. On Wednesday, after this article was published online, she opened her Fox News program by dismissing the results of the Veterans Affairs study, calling it “shoddy,” “shockingly irresponsible” and “agenda-driven.”

“What’s driving this blind obsession to disprove the effectiveness of a drug that is being used right now, tonight, in medical centers across America?” Ms. Ingraham said, above an onscreen graphic that read “The Truth About Hydroxychloroquine.”

She added: “Is it triggered by pure hatred of Trump? Of Fox? Of me?” (Ms. Ingraham prefaced her remarks by reminding viewers: “I’m not a doctor; I don’t play one on TV.”)

Since mid-March, hydroxychloroquine has been a staple of the right-wing news media venues that Mr. Trump follows closely, including Rush Limbaugh’s radio show and Fox News prime time.

Ms. Ingraham was an early and enthusiastic advocate. On April 2, she told her viewers that “nearly all the experts that I’ve talked to, and the studies I’ve read, review this information, the evidence, and at this point, it’s come across as pretty much of a game changer.” The next day, she met with Mr. Trump in the Oval Office to personally pitch him on the drug.

Fox News Stars Trumpeted a Malaria Drug, Until They Didn’t
 

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Vaccine Chief Says He Was Removed After Questioning Drug Trump Promoted

The doctor who led the federal agency involved in developing a coronavirus vaccine said on Wednesday that he was removed from his post after he pressed for rigorous vetting of hydroxychloroquine, an anti-malaria drug embraced by President Trump as a coronavirus treatment, and that the administration has put “politics and cronyism ahead of science.”

Dr. Rick Bright was abruptly dismissed this week as the director of the Department of Health and Human Services’ Biomedical Advanced Research and Development Authority, or BARDA, and removed as the deputy assistant secretary for preparedness and response. He was given a narrower job at the National Institutes of Health.

In a scorching statement, Dr. Bright assailed the leadership at the health department, saying he was pressured to direct money toward hydroxychloroquine, one of several “potentially dangerous drugs promoted by those with political connections” and repeatedly described by the president as a potential “game changer” in the fight against the virus.

“I believe this transfer was in response to my insistence that the government invest the billions of dollars allocated by Congress to address the Covid-19 pandemic into safe and scientifically vetted solutions, and not in drugs, vaccines and other technologies that lack scientific merit,” he said in his statement. “I am speaking out because to combat this deadly virus, science — not politics or cronyism — has to lead the way.”

The president no longer talks much about hydroxychloroquine.

Asked at his daily briefing if Dr. Bright had been forced out because he challenged the president’s support for an unproven drug, Mr. Trump said, “Maybe he was and maybe he wasn’t; I don’t know who he is.”
 

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Like honestly all the world leaders failed us. I look around work and I still can’t believe THIS is life and THIS is were we are at.

incompetent leaders who only care about themselves, their party interests and the interests of those who line their pockets. It’s all of them too.
I don't believe it is all of them. The very worst is here in the USA. It is unreal how bad he is.
 

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Do tell, what would they be?

In fairness to this guy, it's not him that's going to be running errands and putting his neck on the line, it's his staff, so yeah. And if this disease clips off some poor people, old people, disabled people, and folks with underlying health conditions that all cost more than the average person to cover with health insurance and medical coverage, so be it.

That to me is what's happening. The virus is impacting the have nots far more than the wealthy, and to the powers that be (IE the 1%), it's a win win. If they can thin the herd and rid themselves of the groups of people that cost more and eat into their profit so be it, because it's always been about money over saving lives during the epidemic.
 
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The U.S has 6 times the population of S. Korea and 20 times more confirmed deaths.

That can't be right!

Why?

South Korea was prepared and had the testing capacity. They contact traced from the beginning. They didn’t need to fight from behind.

Just shows that capitalism and centralized government can work in unison. But the right calls me a communist for that POV so...
 

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A windmill killing birds...that's a first. There's more birds crashing into glass panels than windmills.

It's really not. A detailed study conducted at just one wind farm in Australia in 2013-2015, albeit one of the largest ones, found that at least 1500 birds and bats were killed by its turbines every year, including a number of endangered species. There are numerous other reports identifying the same issue, although in recent years companies and governments have become smarter about the type of blades used and the locations chosen, to try and minimize bird deaths.

This is no place for a debate about the merits or otherwise of wind-sourced power generation, I just wanted to make a point that the damage inflicted on local bird populations by wind turbines is a genuine issue.

https://www.agl.com.au/-/media/agl/...ifauna-mortality-monitoring-march-2014--f.pdf
 

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Wtf is he babbling about

He's winning, at bingo maybe, or something...

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Trump's War on Solar

as somebody who works in the alternative energy industry selling solar panels this has long been a move of his to shoot down clean energy to prop up coal and oil

he says windmills cause cancer for crying out loud lol

I love that he takes the time to bash alternative energy in the middle of a pandemic though. “Look over here look over here”. We have to keep our eye on the ball
Well he's fighting a losing battle
 
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Trump's War on Solar

as somebody who works in the alternative energy industry selling solar panels this has long been a move of his to shoot down clean energy to prop up coal and oil

he says windmills cause cancer for crying out loud lol

I love that he takes the time to bash alternative energy in the middle of a pandemic though. “Look over here look over here”. We have to keep our eye on the ball

So what impact does solar and or wind power have on this virus again? I'm not a doctor or a politician so these connections are lost on me. Given what I've heard, I can only assume they accelerate the transmission of it while carbon based fuels are good and kill it, but again, I'm not a reality star so I simply don't understand...
 
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Meanwhile in California...

California takes small step toward reopening amid outbreak

"SACRAMENTO, Calif. (AP) — California Gov. Gavin Newsom relaxed his stay-at-home order on Wednesday to let hospitals resume elective surgeries, a move that will send many thousands of idled health care employees back to work as the state takes a cautious first step toward restarting the world's fifth-largest economy."

:facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:
 

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Meanwhile in California...

California takes small step toward reopening amid outbreak

"SACRAMENTO, Calif. (AP) — California Gov. Gavin Newsom relaxed his stay-at-home order on Wednesday to let hospitals resume elective surgeries, a move that will send many thousands of idled health care employees back to work as the state takes a cautious first step toward restarting the world's fifth-largest economy."

:facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:
Hey if they’re going to start opening up that’s a good place to make a first step.
 

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Meanwhile in California...

California takes small step toward reopening amid outbreak

"SACRAMENTO, Calif. (AP) — California Gov. Gavin Newsom relaxed his stay-at-home order on Wednesday to let hospitals resume elective surgeries, a move that will send many thousands of idled health care employees back to work as the state takes a cautious first step toward restarting the world's fifth-largest economy."

:facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:

Newsom's been on top of things since day one. Did a good job being proactive and not letting California become a situation similar to New York, Louisiana, or Michigan. I think it's probably safe to say he's looking at some data that says it's okay to loosen up a bit and acting based on that.

I hate giving any politician in California credit, but they're in a bit of a different situation that Georgia "oh jeez I didn't even know people could be asymptomatic and spread the virus" and then trying to ram everyone into strip clubs and stick their fingers in bowling balls 19 days later.
 
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