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All Purpose Trade/Roster Building Thread XII - The UFA frenzy aftermath
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I mean, it’s the obvious thing that will happen.
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New Jersey definitely has the assets and need to bring in Meier. They want to win now as well. Other teams like Tampa or Toronto could be dark horses where they just plan to re-trade him this offseason.
Grier has options and Meier is SJ's best trade chip. A bidding war may bump the price up from prospects + picks to the Jarvis/Mercer tier. But my guess would be that the real prize is Bedard, Fantilli, Carlsson or Michkov so heavy futures may be preferred.
SJ probably has a dozen prospect options from each team that they like and now they just have to pick the group they like. I don't think either team really has an advantage there. Maybe Drury as the best Center of the group is appealing. Holtz is the best goal scorer. Morrow and Casey are both great just different.
Grier has options and Meier is SJ's best trade chip. A bidding war may bump the price up from prospects + picks to the Jarvis/Mercer tier. But my guess would be that the real prize is Bedard, Fantilli, Carlsson or Michkov so heavy futures may be preferred.
SJ probably has a dozen prospect options from each team that they like and now they just have to pick the group they like. I don't think either team really has an advantage there. Maybe Drury as the best Center of the group is appealing. Holtz is the best goal scorer. Morrow and Casey are both great just different.
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And then he's putting up some ridiculous hard working goals this year. The 2nd one in this reel is absurd and absolutely shows he could slide right into our PP right now, because that drop pass that he got is exactly how we try to set up in the NZ
TheReelChuckFletcher
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I said this before, but if the Devils are forced to give up Dawson Mercer and others for Meier because of Carolina up-bidding, I would consider that a win. One of the things is that the Devils have had many years of sterling lottery luck and high draft picks and haven't yet had their signature blockbuster trade, so I believe that it's important to make that said trade as expensive as possible in order to make our division somewhat less of a raging inferno.
Nikishin Go Boom
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I agree with what you’re saying. Unfortunately other teams have a chance to throw a wrench in our plans and make it unlikely to acquire the right piece.
If that Twitter person was to be believed we were in the lead until Florida jumped in with 2 all star caliber players and a first.
Now with Meier. We’re a little unlucky that a team with a ridiculous run of good top picks now is surprisingly competitive and can comfortably out bid us for him.
Boston can be frivolous with their assets because they window is starting to close. Ours on the other hand is just opening.
Sure could outbid them for any of these pieces if we have the pieces they covet and don’t mind getting silly with it. Fortune favors the bold but also tosses away the too aggressive.
TheReelChuckFletcher
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There are numerous ways to improve the team even without snagging Meier, though. If I were the Canes, I would call Arizona about Crouse and Schmaltz, see what their price tags are, and focus the energy there. If you can acquire both, great. If not, try to trade for one of them and look for another winger or center elsewhere. I honestly like the Boeser and/or Johansen ideas as buy-lows.
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Arizona likely doesn’t move either until the draft at the earliest. No incentive and when they win the bedard sweepstakes they will want some talent around him. Our best bet is Anaheim and Philly, maybe Nashville if they start to slide.
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I dont wanna waste our future for rentals
lets me ask you if we lose 2 players in injury , what would hurt us more 2 forwards or 2 defense? my take 2 forwards you get 2 AHLers /2 rookies and play them on 4th line 4-5 min max ,but if we lose 2 defensemen , we are screwed even if its Chatfield and Dehaans , we have Nothing but Career AHLers at best and as far for Honka and Seeley i think they arent ready yet , u cannot play 3rd pair defense only 5 mins a game
reason i would go with Edsmunton is he would be the cheapest , he plays his zone , he hits he blocks shots (we are dead last in blocked shots) who cares if hes slow , hes only gonna be 3rd pairing and PK anyways
lets me ask you if we lose 2 players in injury , what would hurt us more 2 forwards or 2 defense? my take 2 forwards you get 2 AHLers /2 rookies and play them on 4th line 4-5 min max ,but if we lose 2 defensemen , we are screwed even if its Chatfield and Dehaans , we have Nothing but Career AHLers at best and as far for Honka and Seeley i think they arent ready yet , u cannot play 3rd pair defense only 5 mins a game
reason i would go with Edsmunton is he would be the cheapest , he plays his zone , he hits he blocks shots (we are dead last in blocked shots) who cares if hes slow , hes only gonna be 3rd pairing and PK anyways
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Can they though? Most of the pieces they could use to truly outbid us (Mercer / Hughes / Nemec) are probably considered virtually untouchable...even moreso than Nikishin/Morrow. The best asset they have that they would want to trade is Holtz, who I'd put above Drury but below TT/Jarvis type asset.
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Probably, but I bet most of us thought the same thing when they went out and got Vatanen, Skjei and Trocheck all in the same trade deadline. We were in a different situation then as we weren't guaranteed a playoff position at that point and we have the 2nd best record right now, but we also have a lot of cap space now as well.
I stopped trying to really predict this front office. I don't always agree with their moves, but I also am quite often surprised by them as well. This isn't the Francis/JR era any longer.
Mostly what @MinJaBen wrote makes sense though. Meier to NJ seems like a no-brainer to me as they have space, tons of prospects/young guys and Hischier. I still think Detroit won't let Larkin go and never did.
Horvat? no idea on that but with Krecji and Bergeron's age, they have incentive to get him and sign long term so that wouldn't be a shock either.
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I would hate to waste all of our cap space on a 2RW that doesn’t care for defense or even play with much effort most games. Basically the Gunler write up.
Hate to waste half our space on a better version and 2.5 times more expensive fast. Maybe an off-season move.
JR seems pretty locked into keeping Kuz.
Granted if Vancouver is giving them away, maybe. Unfortunately we don’t have much cap going out in any trade to make a 2nd move plus take a risk on Boeser. Until Kase for sure isn’t coming back, we have to save that 1.5 million.
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TT is the most ideal situation for us and a hopeful they would be interested in. But MG may want to go to full rebuild here soon and not covet Jarvis as much as a prospect who is in their first year of ELC or earlier.
I don’t think NJ would want to trade one of those three but they still could and have great farm. Will they? I don’t know.
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Continuing from my last post, I suspect if/when the front office makes a move, it won't be one of the one all the pundits are currently throwing around. Nobody had predicted us going after Nino, Trocheck, Skjei, Burns or Pacioretty.
I'll be disappointed if they only add a 3rd pairing D as we need more elite scoring talent upfront.
I'll be disappointed if they only add a 3rd pairing D as we need more elite scoring talent upfront.
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We have the volume of prospects, but I don’t know that we have the quality to beat other teams on the big trade. Meier has the look of someone we want, but I don’t know that they’ll allow contract talks before hand.
Yup. All that space and only a D would hurt. But as mentioned we tend to use all the space we have, no reason to think we won’t this year. Even if the guys we want are gone they’ll find some moves….for better or worse.
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1 stop shopping for the canes with the sharks.
Meier, Couture, Megna
Meier, Couture, Megna
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I don’t know if we would have the pieces or cap for that but it would be okay for 2 seasons. That last 2 of couture at 8 million may be rough
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Dundon so cheap, he saves on travel expenses, they are coming here Friday anyways
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Why are we still discussing this? According to the main boards Meier is all but already a Devil and Horvat a Bruin.
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You could bring in a 3rd team to flip TT for more picks/prospects if you're SJ. I doubt that would be a hangup for negotiations, if anything, it might make us even more attractive a trade partner because they could come away with quite a futures haul if they are able to do that.
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