All purpose trade/roster building thread part 12

[Nikishin Go Boom]

And then we get to do the goalie shuffle for a 4th straight offseason?

Oh, now that's something that'll get your nips hard.

no necessarily to do another goalie shuffle. It mitigates risk in case he doesnt work out or has bigger injury issues.

 

[Svechhammer]

no necessarily to do another goalie shuffle. It mitigates risk in case he doesnt work out or has bigger injury issues.

But if we're not doing the shuffle, what is the point? Whats the point to all this?

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

But if we're not doing the shuffle, what is the point? Whats the point to all this?

Maybe Raanta comes in a really plays well in our system.
Maybe he comes in and has injury issues or doesnt mess well with the system.

We have a year to figure it out before we make a long term investment, which is good.

Maybe, I am not understanding your point. In the end Raanta's GSAA is well above Mrazek and Reimer.

 

[Stickpucker]

I much prefer Lehner to Raanta, I think Raanta is good but I have durability concerns with him.

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

I much prefer Lehner to Raanta, I think Raanta is good but I have durability concerns with him.

I do as well but signing Lehner requires us to move both goaltenders. That will be difficult

 

[WreckingCrew]

I do as well but signing Lehner requires us to move both goaltenders. That will be difficult

We'd need to move 1 goalie sure, but why would we need to move both? I think we'd jettison Gardiner if we needed to free up more cap (or Dzingel). Lehner/Mrazek or Lehner/Reimer would be a great duo next year! Hell if we did move both I wouldn't even be mad at a Lehner/Ned tandem (of course if Lehner gets injured we're possibly ****ed)

 

[Sens1Canes2]

There’s always the risk with Lehner that he goes off the rails. I’m not sure the Canes need another one of those in net. Why risk it? Nah.

 

[Lempo]

There’s always the risk with Lehner that he goes off the rails. I’m not sure the Canes need another one of those in net. Why risk it? Nah.

Crazy, but that's how it goes.

 

[Identity404]

Lehner has publicly stated that he doesn't want to sign another short "discounted" contract. He is looking to get paid. So I doubt he will be heading our way, but maybe COVID/flatcap will prevent that from happening... IDK.

 

[TheReelChuckFletcher]

I was saying earlier that I personally believe that the Skjei deal was a scout's trade and not a statistician's trade: well, Lavalette basically confirms the same thing that I've long suspected, that this move was influenced by Darren Yorke's office. It sort of gives credence to my argument that the GMBC is really an equal collaboration between Waddell, Tulsky, and Yorke:

 

[A Star is Burns]

I just hope Skjei keeps up the good play from this series so some that constantly bring up how bad he is and how bad that trade is will calm down.

 

[Surrounded By Ahos]

We just need to hypnotize Skjei before every game and tell him the opponent is the Rangers.

We need to do the same with Foegele, but the opponent is the Capitals.

 

[Chrispy]

We just need to hypnotize Skjei before every game and tell him the opponent is the Rangers.

We need to do the same with Foegele, but the opponent is the Capitals.

RANGERS!
CAPITALS!

And then Foegele decks Skjei like Barney Gumble in the Pitt the Elder/Lord Palmerston debate.

 

[Randy Butternubs]

Pens fan here. I was going through teams and available goalies this offseason and thought that Lehner would be a great fit for Carolina.

Should the Pens trade Murray to, let's say, Detroit they will need a backup that can be a tandem with Jarry. Mrazek or Reimer would both seem to be a good options.

Hypothetically, let's say that the Pens trade Murray and the Canes sign Lehner. What would it take to acquire one of Mrazek or Reimer?

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

Pens fan here. I was going through teams and available goalies this offseason and thought that Lehner would be a great fit for Carolina.

Should the Pens trade Murray to, let's say, Detroit they will need a backup that can be a tandem with Jarry. Mrazek or Reimer would both seem to be a good options.

Hypothetically, let's say that the Pens trade Murray and the Canes sign Lehner. What would it take to acquire one of Mrazek or Reimer?

Y’all don’t have much in the line of picks. Assuming JR wants to keep what little he has, got an expansion exempt prospect you wouldn’t mind parting with?

 

[DougieSmash]

Not a fan giving something like 4 or 5 years contract to Lehner. Mrazek is adequate and cheaper. Also big part of the room. Not sure Lehner make us contender at all, not to mention we have to think about Svech and Hamilton eventually. Not the right time to overpay. Be patient and develop some of the goalies in the system. If Blues can win with JB, why not with Mrazek?

 

[Randy Butternubs]

Y’all don’t have much in the line of picks. Assuming JR wants to keep what little he has, got an expansion exempt prospect you wouldn’t mind parting with?

Ah, I guess I should've described what I think would be coming in from a Murray to Detroit trade. I think the Pens could get an early second and a 3rd. And perhaps Madison Bowey. Would you accept a 3rd?

As far as draft exempt prospects I think the Pens would consider parting with for one year of a veteran goalie (and that may have a chance at an NHL future) would be:

Justin Almeida
Jan Drozg
Jordy Bellerive
Niclas Almari
Kaspar Bjorkqvist (harder to give up)
Filip Hallander (harder to give up)
Nathan Legare (harder to give up)

So, uh, not much there.

 

[TheReelChuckFletcher]

Ah, I guess I should've described what I think would be coming in from a Murray to Detroit trade. I think the Pens could get an early second and a 3rd. And perhaps Madison Bowey. Would you accept a 3rd?

As far as draft exempt prospects I think the Pens would consider parting with for one year of a veteran goalie (and that may have a chance at an NHL future) would be:

Justin Almeida
Jan Drozg
Jordy Bellerive
Niclas Almari
Kaspar Bjorkqvist (harder to give up)
Filip Hallander (harder to give up)
Nathan Legare (harder to give up)

So, uh, not much there.

I actually think that Matt Murray would be the quintessential Canes acquisition. I'd do a deal with you guys for Nedeljkovic + picks, then deal Reimer to a backup-needy club with some retainment for a 3rd.

 

[Big Daddy Cane]

Pens fan here. I was going through teams and available goalies this offseason and thought that Lehner would be a great fit for Carolina.

Should the Pens trade Murray to, let's say, Detroit they will need a backup that can be a tandem with Jarry. Mrazek or Reimer would both seem to be a good options.

Hypothetically, let's say that the Pens trade Murray and the Canes sign Lehner. What would it take to acquire one of Mrazek or Reimer?

I think they'd give either one away for cap relief in that scenario.

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

I actually think that Matt Murray would be the quintessential Canes acquisition. I'd do a deal with you guys for Nedeljkovic + picks, then deal Reimer to a backup-needy club with some retainment for a 3rd.

Murray is the Gardiner of goalie acquisitions. Pass on Murray

 

[TheReelChuckFletcher]

Murray is the Gardiner of goalie acquisitions. Pass on Murray

You know who you're talking to, right? That's appealing to me.

 

[Surrounded By Ahos]

Pens fan here. I was going through teams and available goalies this offseason and thought that Lehner would be a great fit for Carolina.

Should the Pens trade Murray to, let's say, Detroit they will need a backup that can be a tandem with Jarry. Mrazek or Reimer would both seem to be a good options.

Hypothetically, let's say that the Pens trade Murray and the Canes sign Lehner. What would it take to acquire one of Mrazek or Reimer?

I want Brian Dumoulin back

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

You know who you're talking to, right? That's appealing to me.

I know but it doesnt make it a good thing.

 

[TheReelChuckFletcher]

I know but it doesnt make it a good thing.

It does in my book

 

[Surrounded By Ahos]

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