OT: All purpose NCAA thread v2.0

[Asnito]

It’s really no different than Ohio State in 2015. I think most would have rated them at least a better team than Oklahoma & Michigan State but they lost to the latter on a walk off FG. USC in 2016 after they switched to Darnold were probably a top four team as well. But all these teams were held accountable for their loss(es).

USC was the one team I was thinking of when I was talking about teams mature.

How much more interesting would the season be if conference champions had an automatic bid? It would keep more fans interested longer.

 

[Asnito]

I'm rambling again but what odds would you guys need to bet against Clemson vs Bama round 4?

 

[FLYguy3911]

I think Florida plays Michigan in some second rate bowl every bowl season.

 

[Asnito]

Northwestern is so average that I don't know if a 60 burger would do it.

Northwestern lost all 3 out of conference games including Duke and Akron at home

How bad does that Akron loss look now that they fired their coach after a 3-9 season.

 

[Asnito]

Bill Snyder retired

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

How bad does that Akron loss look now that they fired their coach after a 3-9 season.

There was a lot of average to bad teams in the Big Ten West so it manufactured wins for Northwestern. Wisconsin dropping down to an average team this year really cleared the way.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

Saban voted Clemson, Alabama, Notre Dame, & Oklahoma in that order on his coaches ballot.

 

[Asnito]

Saban voted Clemson, Alabama, Notre Dame, & Oklahoma in that order on his coaches ballot.

He wanted nothing to do with Georgia again

Smart man plus he's giving Clemson a little "Rat Poison"

 

[Asnito]

How motivated is Georgia going to be to curb stomp Texas?

I think Texas fans are going to have another reason to hate Oklahoma when Georgia gets done with them.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

I think the Big Ten lifted the ban off scheduling FCS opponents but they were willingly handcuffing themselves there when others weren’t either.

The committee has not held a P5 team accountable for a weak schedule to this point that have finished with 11-12-13 wins.

 

[Asnito]

I think the Big Ten lifted the ban off scheduling FCS opponents but they were willingly handcuffing themselves there when others weren’t either.

The committee has not held a P5 team accountable for a weak schedule to this point that have finished with 11-12-13 wins.

It would have been interesting to see what they would have done with Wazzu, they didn't even play a power 5 school out of conference.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

It would have been interesting to see what they would have done with Wazzu, they didn't even play a power 5 school out of conference.

They let Washington in with playing essentially nobody out of conference in 2016. They played Rutgers, Idaho, & Portland State out of conference that year. You had Alabama last year with a poor out of conference schedule too.

I’m not blaming those teams for doing it but it just doesn’t really seem to matter in a negative way for teams. Your final record means more than anything & these football guys are just as lazy/incompetent as the writers are. So why not schedule any different at this point. Nobody really should, anybody making things harder on themselves is an idiot at this point.

 

[flyershockey]

How motivated is Georgia going to be to curb stomp Texas?

I think Texas fans are going to have another reason to hate Oklahoma when Georgia gets done with them.

You worry about the disappointment factor in these bowl games with the team that seemingly let down against expectations. Look no further than Auburn last year.

But UGA's senior class won't let that happen. Guys like Jonathan Ledbetter have already set the standard in preparation with the comments they made last night. These guys have bought in to what Kirby's doing 100% and like last year's senior class, they fully expect to lay the ground work to what is hopefully the next great college football program.

I know Kirby will be prepared. He's pushing hard to create a UGA presence in Texas recruiting. He scheduled a home and home with Texas later in the decade for that reason. He picked up a Texas kid last cycle, another in this one, and he's still pushing hard for a couple others. Beating Texas in a prominent bowl game would go a long way to establishing that pipeline.

 

[Asnito]

I agree but in defense of Bama they seem to always try to schedule a solid opponent the first week of the season. It just turned out Louisville, FSU and USC weren't as good as when the games were scheduled.

 

[Asnito]

You worry about the disappointment factor in these bowl games with the team that seemingly let down against expectations. Look no further than Auburn last year.

But UGA's senior class won't let that happen. Guys like Jonathan Ledbetter have already set the standard in preparation with the comments they made last night. These guys have bought in to what Kirby's doing 100% and like last year's senior class, they fully expect to lay the ground work to what is hopefully the next great college football program.

I know Kirby will be prepared. He's pushing hard to create a UGA presence in Texas recruiting. He scheduled a home and home later in the decade for that reason. He picked up a Texas kid last cycle, another in this one, and he's still pushing hard for a couple others. Beating Texas in a prominent bowl game would go a long way to establishing that pipeline.

That makes sense but I was looking at it in the context that it was Oklahoma that kept them out of the playoffs so I think they will definitely want to make a statement to the committee by taking Texas out to the woodshed.

 

[Asnito]

They let Washington in with playing essentially nobody out of conference in 2016. They played Rutgers, Idaho, & Portland State out of conference that year. You had Alabama last year with a poor out of conference schedule too.

I’m not blaming those teams for doing it but it just doesn’t really seem to matter in a negative way for teams. Your final record means more than anything & these football guys are just as lazy/incompetent as the writers are. So why not schedule any different at this point. Nobody really should, anybody making things harder on themselves is an idiot at this point.

This is another reason I would like to see the season kick off with a rematch of the previous years bowl game with the winner hosting the game.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

I think Florida plays Michigan in some second rate bowl every bowl season.

Was honestly hoping for a game against Florida or LSU, got Kentucky instead. I don’t know what Josh Allen will do but we probably don’t have a clear cut draft prospect that could sit out.

 

[Asnito]

Was honestly hoping for a game against Florida or LSU, got Kentucky instead. I don’t know what Josh Allen will do but we probably don’t have a clear cut draft prospect that could sit out.

PSU should handle Kentucky. Josh Allen is a potential top 10 pick and Benny Snell might sit out also.

If those two skip the game take PSU to cover. One is the heart and soul of the offense and the other is the same for the defense.

 

[Asnito]

Speaking of LSU please put this UCF nonsense to rest.

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

Can someone explain to me how Redbox is still a thing and they actually have a bowl?

Perfect example of how there are too many bowls.

 

[Normand Lacombe]

I think having all your best programs in one division isn’t exactly a good idea.

The Big ten had a more balanced divisional setup with the lamely named Leaders and Legends divisions. However, the elephant in the room for the AD's was always OSU and Michigan possibly meeting in the CCG a week after their cross over/rivalry game. It was discussed among Big 10 officials and AD's to move the OSU-Michigan game to earlier in November when the Leaders and Legends was being formed, but both fan bases were outraged by the suggestion. Once Rutgers and Maryland joined the conference, it gave the Big Ten an excuse to realign the divisions to their current state.

Personally, I don't see the issue of having OSU and Michigan in back to back weeks. Both fan bases would plan well in advance of a possible second match up in Indy and TV ratings would be better. Nonetheless, the current divisional setup needs to be addressed.

 

[Asnito]

The Big ten had a more balanced divisional setup with the lamely named Leaders and Legends divisions. However, the elephant in the room for the AD's was always OSU and Michigan possibly meeting in the CCG a week after their cross over/rivalry game. It was discussed among Big 10 officials and AD's to move the OSU-Michigan game to earlier in November when the Leaders and Legends was being formed, but both fan bases were outraged by the suggestion. Once Rutgers and Maryland joined the conference, it gave the Big Ten an excuse to realign the divisions to their current state.

Personally, I don't see the issue of having OSU and Michigan in back to back weeks. Both fan bases would plan well in advance of a possible second match up in Indy and TV ratings would be better. Nonetheless, the current divisional setup needs to be addressed.

SEC West is similar and I saw some talk about flipping Texas A&M and Missouri to make it more balanced. The B1G should think about this with PSU and maybe Michigan State switching divisions.

 

[flyershockey]

If Florida and Tennessee weren't down right now, there would be no problem with the divisional alignment in the SEC. You'd have three traditional powers in each conference. If anything, Auburn should have kicked to the East when Missouri joined, but everyone was so terrified of losing the annual LSU/Auburn game of all things. The Iron Bowl would have been their only locked in cross over game.

Wisconsin being down this year hurt he B1G, but honestly the conference doesn't even need directional based divisions. Put OSU/Michigan in one division and PSU/Wisconsin in the other. ND would have been perfect too, but they wanted the ACC schedule... conveniently.

If we were having this conversation five years ago, a lot of people would have thought one of the Big 12 or ACC wouldn't exist today. At one point, there was a big push to have 4 super conferences. Especially when both Oklahoma and Texas were flirting with the idea of leaving the Big 12.

 

[Normand Lacombe]

SEC West is similar and I saw some talk about flipping Texas A&M and Missouri to make it more balanced. The B1G should think about this with PSU and maybe Michigan State switching divisions.

That was my thinking as well. Michigan State would make more sense over Penn St. in the West. MSU can still have a crossover with Michigan, protecting that rivalry. Purdue or Illinois can switch to the East.

 

[Asnito]

That was my thinking as well. Michigan State would make more sense over Penn St. in the West. MSU can still have a crossover with Michigan, protecting that rivalry. Purdue or Illinois can switch to the East.

To me Michigan State is kind of limited in its potential that's why I'd like to see PSU switch because they have a much better chance of becoming a legit playoff contender year in year out .