Player Discussion All Purpose Goaltending Thread

dortt

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Levi was overplayed and his play has suffered

This is on Adams for only giving Granato a single option in goal for 2 months.

Should have kept Comweasel in Rochester and Levi here. Play Levi once every 4 games to give UPL the rest he needed. Instead, UPL plays every night and of course he gets burned out.

It's not like Levi was putting up a .865 SP and a 4.00 GAA when he was here the first half of the year
 

Chainshot

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Levi was overplayed and his play has suffered

This is on Adams for only giving Granato a single option in goal for 2 months.

Should have kept Comweasel in Rochester and Levi here. Play Levi once every 4 games to give UPL the rest he needed. Instead, UPL plays every night and of course he gets burned out.

It's not like Levi was putting up a .865 SP and a 4.00 GAA when he was here the first half of the year

They need Levi to play to improve his game. The issue that they could have shuffled in a different backup is real. Saying they should have kept Levi around for infrequent NHL-level practices and 1 game ever 10-12 days misses that Levi still needs to hone his game.
 

Svedu

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I will never forget when I stated I would trade Hart against UPL and for a high pick. I remember getting ridiculed. I mean, pretty understandable. But then again. I always praised Vasi, Saros, UPL, Wallstedt, Dostal (still young) after seeing their junior tournaments and in that exact order.

Some say goalies are difficult to predict and lot of people in this site state just that. Sometimes, not always.

Well, let's just say my earlier fantasy offer aged pretty darn well. In fact, no matter what happens, the Sabres wouldn't give up UPL for Hart and some high picks from Flyers (the other way around). Interesting how things can change so drastically in a couple of months.
 
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Jim Bob

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His Sabres ones were better

They seemed to work for him...
 

Jacob582

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I'm happy for Cooley. I'm honestly shocked he is finding success at the NHL level.

Did nothing for the Amerks. But there must have been a reason that Karmanos/analytics staff lured him to Rochester with a $400k AHL contract.
 

Jim Bob

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I'm happy for Cooley. I'm honestly shocked he is finding success at the NHL level.

Did nothing for the Amerks. But there must have been a reason that Karmanos/analytics staff lured him to Rochester with a $400k AHL contract.
UPL has played better in Buffalo than Rochester. It is not completely shocking to me that Cooley is looking better in the NHL than the AHL.
 

Jacob582

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UPL has played better in Buffalo than Rochester. It is not completely shocking to me that Cooley is looking better in the NHL than the AHL.
And then there is Devon Levi.....

Let's just say I was shocked that Grier gave up a 7th rounder to fill his goaltender needs.

Now I figure it's already worth a 7th to him (for the 2 wins and the great PR story).
 

Jacob582

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We need goaltenders. We have one signed for next season.

What does everybody think will happen for next season?

I think it's:
- UPL (RFA: not signed)
- Levi

Rochester:
- Best # 3 they can find. Duff likes Chris Driedger. I'm wondering if Prosvetov won't get a one-way contract and would be an option.

Most likely they'll end up with Subban and Tokarski.

I know some want to go the route of veteran backup. I think you would have to go the trade route. What veteran would want to sign here with them knowing how Adams feels about Levi? Also, wouldn't this feel like a three-headed monster in training camp?
 

Zman5778

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knowing Lindy, and the way UPL likes to be ridden, UPL plays 70 this year
No. Chance.

I know talent played a part, but Lindy hasn't ridden a goalie like that since Lehkonen back in 14/15....and he only played 65.

Lindy is smart enough to realize that goalies don't/shouldn't play more than 60ish games anymore.

Only THREE goalies started more than 60 games this year, Saros led at 64. Hell, only 14 goalies started 50 or more this year....UPL being one of those.

I think the breakdown looks like this:

UPL: 50-55 starts
Levi: 20ish starts
Reimer: 10ish starts

Assuming that UPL doesn't regress or Levi takes the reins and runs away with the role.
 

joshjull

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No. Chance.

I know talent played a part, but Lindy hasn't ridden a goalie like that since Lehkonen back in 14/15....and he only played 65.

Lindy is smart enough to realize that goalies don't/shouldn't play more than 60ish games anymore.

Only THREE goalies started more than 60 games this year, Saros led at 64. Hell, only 14 goalies started 50 or more this year....UPL being one of those.

I think the breakdown looks like this:

UPL: 50-55 starts
Levi: 20ish starts
Reimer: 10ish starts

Assuming that UPL doesn't regress or Levi takes the reins and runs away with the role.
What is this based on? I’ve seen other posters with similar predictions.

If UPL is the starter and Reimer the backup. Levi isn’t playing in the NHL unless there are injuries.
 
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Diaspora

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No. Chance.

I know talent played a part, but Lindy hasn't ridden a goalie like that since Lehkonen back in 14/15....and he only played 65.

Lindy is smart enough to realize that goalies don't/shouldn't play more than 60ish games anymore.

Only THREE goalies started more than 60 games this year, Saros led at 64. Hell, only 14 goalies started 50 or more this year....UPL being one of those.

I think the breakdown looks like this:

UPL: 50-55 starts
Levi: 20ish starts
Reimer: 10ish starts

Assuming that UPL doesn't regress or Levi takes the reins and runs away with the role.
Switch the counts on Levi/Reimer. Levi should play home games when the schedule is tight and injury call-ups. He should get 55 in with the Amerks and be available if playoffs happen.

YMMV.
 
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