Confirmed with Link: All-Purpose "Days of Our Meruelo" Talk

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Dead Coyote

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Went looking through the Utah depth chart on EP for something on the trade forum and it kind of just gutted me that there's no stats there. I didn't expect to feel so bad but there's no franchise leaders, no points, no seasons, nothing. Keller has as many points with Utah as Barret Hayton does.

I perfectly understand JDWO POV. I mean, you can't act surprised now about it either, it's been like that since April. Which is also kind of insane to think about.

I still hate Meruelo more than anything and anyone else, but I don't appreciate the way the NHL and NHLPA handled it. I can't rationally blame Smyth for accepting a deal with the NHL but I still think it's bullshit that he even got offered that deal and it's even more bullshit that our team was given away in it's entirety to him.

It's like he got an inheritance of millions of dollars from a family member dying without having to do anything to get it. Just pure luck. Right place right time. And I f***ing hate that because we suffered for f***ing years to get those picks and GMBA had to struggle his ass off and get laughed at as the dumping ground of the NHL all the while he continued to make smart moves. The cosmic f***ing injustice of Meruelo just selling GMBA and Tourigny and all of our top prospects away is what kills me.

I still like talking about hockey and I'm still in a sim league so I still want to pay attention to the NHL but there's no damn chance I'm rooting for Utah. Ironically writing for something like Clean Hits is something I've always wanted to do and would be a dream job for me, but I wouldn't be able to stand writing about Utah constantly or being a fan and trying to be unbiased about Utah or writing from the perspective of what's best for Utah. That's really the only reason I turned down RT when he asked if I wanted to.

I've tried tuning into a few different forums here and giving some prospect info on guys from the Knights but I can't see myself joining another fandom anytime soon.

The NHL can go f*** themselves anyways, and I know what everyone will say, that we wouldn't have had a team this long without Gary anyways and that we overstayed our welcome, but that doesn't invalidate how shit he treated us in the end and threw us away as quickly as possible as soon as it became possible.

HF is still a place I go for hockey news but it's lost a lot of it's shine. I may still argue with people on the Utah boards but it's not the same and in a few years will probably be completely different. I don't see myself being an NHL fan again for a very long time unless I move somewhere with a team.
 

AZDesertKnight

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I have no idea how they renovate their way out of that arena with 2x the obstructed view seats than AWA.

It looks awful! That's going to be an entire rebuild of the arena
 

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lol...the one thing....ONE THING...this whole shittastic situation had going for it is that we should've been able to get Center Ice and watch the ex-Yotes but noooooooo....let's not only make Phoenix in market for Utah, let's make them in market for Vegas too!! f***ing hell, life as a Phoenix hockey fan is a perpetual test of pain endurance.
 
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Looking forward to both watching the Golden nights and spending my STH money on the Cards tix. Won’t root for a team which abandoned my town and won’t spend a dime on the NHL.
 
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lol...the one thing....ONE THING...this whole shittastic situation had going for it is that we should've been able to get Center Ice and watch the ex-Yotes but noooooooo....let's not only make Phoenix in market for Utah, let's make them in market for Vegas too!! f***ing hell, life as a Phoenix hockey fan is a perpetual test of pain endurance.

SLC had both teams last season.

Vegas had to give up Utah so they had to have something to compensate.

Arizona61 will be broadcasting most of the Utah games, some will be on AntennaTV.
 

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Sucks. You are right, but it doesn’t calm that feeling in the pit of my stomach when I see the Utah team.
I understand. Utah folks blasted a guy on fb the other day for merely posting Holer’s “Hockey belongs in the desert.” That crap doesn’t help
 

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So "PHNX Hockey" sure is ghosting the VGK news... Loyal to Smith Entertainment Group and that's about it.

I'm excited to go to the VGK watch party in Gilbert and taking my son to their Hockey event, they're actually contributing to growing the game in AZ and crickets from PHNX Hockey.

Unreal. I've lost alot of respect for Craig, Petey and that group since the bowing down to Frank Seravalli and holding the bag of Utah Hockey Club.
 

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So "PHNX Hockey" sure is ghosting the VGK news... Loyal to Smith Entertainment Group and that's about it.

They're covering Utah as "All Utah Hockey." Because they were asked to and ALLCity is looking to establishing another node there.

I'm excited to go to the VGK watch party in Gilbert and taking my son to their Hockey event, they're actually contributing to growing the game in AZ and crickets from PHNX Hockey.

PHNX Hockey is planning a takeover event for ASU Hockey soon. Hardly crickets.

Unreal. I've lost alot of respect for Craig, Petey and that group since the bowing down to Frank Seravalli and holding the bag of Utah Hockey Club.

Oh please.... they essentially lost their jobs through no fault of their own and had to evolve. Leah is taking on a bigger role at PHNX, Craig is now covering the Cardinals plus keeping tabs on Utah. Petey is still Petey. He let off some steam just the other day..

 

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SLC had both teams last season.

Vegas had to give up Utah so they had to have something to compensate.

Arizona61 will be broadcasting most of the Utah games, some will be on AntennaTV.
Or they could just not designate Phoenix as a f***ing Utah and Vegas market and the problem solves itself. Putting the games on 61 is one step ahead of putting them on AM radio. Looks like it's time to sail the high seas again.

LOL, iirc the kindest response was "good Utah's a desert" or something to that effect.
Utah would be just fine if it didn't have a mormon church infestation.
 

Sinurgy

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So "PHNX Hockey" sure is ghosting the VGK news... Loyal to Smith Entertainment Group and that's about it.

I'm excited to go to the VGK watch party in Gilbert and taking my son to their Hockey event, they're actually contributing to growing the game in AZ and crickets from PHNX Hockey.

Unreal. I've lost alot of respect for Craig, Petey and that group since the bowing down to Frank Seravalli and holding the bag of Utah Hockey Club.
If Vegas hadn't just recently won the cup it would be way more tempting to move that direction in regards to fandom, that ruins it for me.
 

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They're covering Utah as "All Utah Hockey." Because they were asked to and ALLCity is looking to establishing another node there.



PHNX Hockey is planning a takeover event for ASU Hockey soon. Hardly crickets.



Oh please.... they essentially lost their jobs through no fault of their own and had to evolve. Leah is taking on a bigger role at PHNX, Craig is now covering the Cardinals plus keeping tabs on Utah. Petey is still Petey. He let off some steam just the other day..

So you're telling me they couldn't RT the Vegas Broadcast information?? Please...

There is absolutely an agenda to be only Utah centric.

If Vegas hadn't just recently won the cup it would be way more tempting to move that direction in regards to fandom, that ruins it for me.
Why is that? Like we all had the choice to jump on board.. For me i've been more feet in the VGK camp then the Coyotes since inaguration.. (I was in the No Arena, No Care camp) but they won't be contenders forever. May as well jump aboard. Their fans have been super welcoming as have the staff, clearly investing in our Hockey community which you won't see from Utah.. outside of 90% of their media presence being Arizona based personalities and moderators.
 

Sinurgy

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So you're telling me they couldn't RT the Vegas Broadcast information?? Please...

There is absolutely an agenda to be only Utah centric.


Why is that? Like we all had the choice to jump on board.. For me i've been more feet in the VGK camp then the Coyotes since inaguration.. (I was in the No Arena, No Care camp) but they won't be contenders forever. May as well jump aboard. Their fans have been super welcoming as have the staff, clearly investing in our Hockey community which you won't see from Utah.. outside of 90% of their media presence being Arizona based personalities and moderators.
Because I don't want to hop aboard a bandwagon, I want to be there way before the bandwagon exists. One of the parts that made losing the Coytoes so rough is that right or wrong I had swallowed the hook on the rebuild and am convinced this is a team that will be a perennial powerhouse for many years because BA is building it the right way. I wanted to be part of that ground up experience. It's such a f***ing sports tragedy that it's going to happen in Utah now despite the fans there having not been a part of shit.
 

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Because I don't want to hop aboard a bandwagon, I want to be there way before the bandwagon exists. One of the parts that made losing the Coytoes so rough is that right or wrong I had swallowed the hook on the rebuild and am convinced this is a team that will be a perennial powerhouse for many years because BA is building it the right way. I wanted to be part of that ground up experience. It's such a f***ing sports tragedy that it's going to happen in Utah now despite the fans there having not been a part of shit.
I see where you're coming from. I guess my situation is different because I hopped on board before they even played a game. I never bought into the BA rebuild and honestly didn't know many of our own players outside of the big names. I purposely removed any attachment from the on ice product but followed the Arena stuff religiously.

To each their own, but my point is that it's weird that PHNX doesn't even mention the VGK event in Gilbert or the Scripps news. They're bought and paid for in my opinion by Utah.
 

Sinurgy

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I see where you're coming from. I guess my situation is different because I hopped on board before they even played a game. I never bought into the BA rebuild and honestly didn't know many of our own players outside of the big names. I purposely removed any attachment from the on ice product but followed the Arena stuff religiously.

To each their own, but my point is that it's weird that PHNX doesn't even mention the VGK event in Gilbert or the Scripps news. They're bought and paid for in my opinion by Utah.
Yeah very different situations, I was all in on the Coyotes and now I'm just an angry lost hockey fan. I suppose I'll hate watch Utah for awhile and I think I might try to get into the Kraken if for no other reason that it's now the coolest mascot in the NHL. I mean c'mon, release the Kraken, it writes itself!
 

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