He was way late to the party getting the Sahara sportsbook app up and running, if he ever even did. His gaming license to get a book at the arena wouldn't have made much of a splash. People gamble on their phones.
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Confirmed with Link: All-Purpose Coyotes Arena Talk: [Update] Land Auction Cancelled, Meruelo waiving ownership rights.
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He was way late to the party getting the Sahara sportsbook app up and running, if he ever even did. His gaming license to get a book at the arena wouldn't have made much of a splash. People gamble on their phones.
Arizonatah Coyetis
Formerly Kai Yo T
And now people are thinking there are a couple of white knights waiting to jump in.
Bonsai Tree
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I think that the only white knight that makes any sense at all is Ishbia. Renovate Footprint and get 44 more dates a year. Not only does that dramatically dilute costs but it adds revenue streams from TV and ticket salesAnd now people are thinking there are a couple of white knights waiting to jump in.
Knights2017
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Happy Land Auction day everyone!!
This is the ONLY path forward. Footprint would be a bridge to a new arena for a few years.
Coyotedroppings
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Meh, what's in a name? I think the curse of the Avco Cup followed hockey ops., not the naming rights.
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Ishbia did create a holding company for potential investments in other pro sports teams. But I don't think he's interested in the NHL. And I don't think Footprint is at all suitable for a hockey team, which means that Ishbia would have to a) be convinced to add an NHL team to his portfolio and b) have a new building already built before he could get an expansion bid together.
GhostofTommyBolin
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Ishbia doesn't feel his portfolio needs an NHL team, nor does he want to engage in any refurb on Footprint to accommodate one.
RemoAZ
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My secret hope before Meruelo f***ed us was Ishiba buying the team directly from him, sticking them back in Glendale on a short term 5 to 10ish year lease and leverage both teams to get a new building built. I don't see anything with Ishiba happening now. I just hope I actually care by the time a new team comes here if it ever does. These days I'm as disappointed in professional sports as I am with the economy and political atmosphere. Maybe pessimistic is the better word.
LAIslanderFan
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Agree with this post. Bettman mentioned how the political situation in Phoenix isn't conducive to building an arena at this time. My sense is as long as Footprint is a modern viable arena, there's no chance of building another arena anywhere in Phoenix. I suppose when Footprint reaches its expiration date in 10-15 years, there may be talk of another renovation or a new arena. Until then it's not happening in Phoenix.
What does that leave, it leaves a neighboring city. Tempe, that didn't work out so well. Scottsdale? I don't I don't know much about their political situation and that goes the same for
Mesa. Goodyear? Chandler or Gilbert? That leaves Native lands or Glendale!
The quickest best option is Glendale for both a temporary and permanent solution. I'm convinced that if a good, stable ownership group owned the Coyotes, they would have been successful. The largest and most vocal complaints surrounding the Coyotes failure is that they never had a chance because they lacked an ownership group that had the finances and the know how to run the team. Every other city is going to require too many hoops to jump through to get something built. There certainly won't be any tax breaks coming like the ones the Utah group got for their arena. Glendale is built, and it's hockey ready. Good ownership and a good team, will take care of attendance issues. To be completely transparent, I live in nearby Surprise. But I think the points I've made are pretty objective. Outside of Native Lands (which I no very little about), Phoenix isn't interested in another venue and I don't believe there are other cities in the Valley that will subsidize an arena.
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I thought there was a story last year or so that Glendale got rid of their ice plant and can’t host hockey anymore.
It f***ing sucks, as much as many of us ragged on Glendale for years and years and as toxic as that relationship was, I’d give anything to have a team playing in that arena right now.
It f***ing sucks, as much as many of us ragged on Glendale for years and years and as toxic as that relationship was, I’d give anything to have a team playing in that arena right now.
AM was not perfect, but he was in no way a doofus like many think. He may sound that way though. Listen to GB talk about AM stepping away. He stated that with the political climate currently the way it is in Arizona, and he doesn't see anything changing is the near future, it will be a long time before the NHL returns. Until we get people in office that actually know how to run a State and/or city, nothing will change. The NHL is in the drivers seat now, and they can wait as long as they want. All you AM haters might understand after it finally sinks in that there is no white knight as Morgan and others have stated coming to the rescue.
Ishbia will be like Tillman in Houston and want a deal on the franchise, which won't happen. Ishbia has his own business problems with that class action suit that no one is talking about.
Guys, Listen to GB. He knew damn well there would be problems going forward. He's been dealing with our pea brain politicians for years. All of you can stop dreaming about another team, not happening.
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I mean imo the only option is to completely ignore the politicians and deal with the SRP tribe, building an arena up in that part of town. That way you completely ignore the political climate issue. But who the hell knows what that process would look like or even if anyone would want to or be able to deal with the tribe.
Arizonatah Coyetis
Formerly Kai Yo T
Yeah, blame the politicians for being wary of the NHL after seeing what took place over the years and how Glendale was treated. There's a LOT more to blame than pea brained politicians. The NHL burned the bridges they needed to cross, so it's not surprising the politicians aren't bending over backwards for the NHL.
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You blame and believe who and what you want. End result, we don't have a team, and won't have a team for years and years and years. Ask the Dbacks how much fun they are having with the State.
RemoAZ
Let it burn
The only way Glendale would be considered as a long term solution is if the Go Daddy guy that owns Westgate partnered with the arena management company that is probably going to buy the arena for $1 after the current renovations are complete. That would put Westgate back together again which was the point of the project and the development deal every owner has wanted a new arena built for. If either of those two wanted to own the team, I think we would have at least heard whispers over the last 5 to 10 years. As far as I know, neither has shown interest. But I agree with you about not getting another arena built at least in the next decade +. It's just not going to happen which means no hockey in the state. Sad part is very few people seem to even care. I think the decades long drama (horrible teams, consistent relocation rumors, bankruptcy, grifter owner carrousel, consistent shitting on the city, state and fans) soured too many people into indifference.
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Glendale will never be considered ever...it was a mistake from the beginning and I'm not 'dumping' on the West side.
For the team to be viable long term, they need a downtown arena and a team with deep pockets who wants to build a winner.
Gary made it clear about Glendale not being an option years ago. Recently he said that a new arena in the central valley is required before the NHL looks at this market again.
