Dirty Old Man
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Oh, come on, captain buzzkill
Confirmed with Link: All-Purpose "Days of Our Meruelo" Talk
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RemoAZ
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Can't a starving man enjoy a cracker once in a while?Oh, come on, captain buzzkill
Coyotedroppings
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ParisSaintGermain
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For me the positive so far is that just about everyone is thinking, saying even, that hockey will be back to Arizona soonish. 5-7-10 years, whatever, it does really look like it will be back.
And frankly, after the horror show of the last decades, one could have considered a "NEVER AGAIN" type of answer, particularly so soon after a dramatic last minute relocation.
And frankly, after the horror show of the last decades, one could have considered a "NEVER AGAIN" type of answer, particularly so soon after a dramatic last minute relocation.
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I'd put them lower than that. I think given Meruelo's pending move of the Roadrunners to Reno, that the odds are that professional hockey will be gone from Arizona completely in 5 years or less.
Until a multi times billionaire with 3 billion in liquid assets to burn wants a team in Arizona the odds are zero. Find one of those guys and it's a different story. Only been looking for 20 years but I'm sure one is around here somewhere.
JasonDemersWasOkay
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The only way 5 years could possibly work is if somehow a new building gets solidly going in 2025 (lol) or if Ishbia is awarded a team and has them play in Glendale (??) until the suns lease is up and they move in with them in whatever new building phoenix builds them?
All seems very far fetched, but we all got burned thinking seravalli was full of shit before, and he broke the final story of the franchise. He’s obviously tapped in, and can’t be discounted fully.
All seems very far fetched, but we all got burned thinking seravalli was full of shit before, and he broke the final story of the franchise. He’s obviously tapped in, and can’t be discounted fully.
AZDesertKnight
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Frank is right, and its what I’ve said all along: Player 15 or nothing.
Phoenix wants to work with the Suns on a new building (Eventually) and want that to be with 2 major league tenants.
I’d give it 5-10 years, 5 is optimistic
Phoenix wants to work with the Suns on a new building (Eventually) and want that to be with 2 major league tenants.
I’d give it 5-10 years, 5 is optimistic
Mat Ishbia wasn't part of our market during those 20 years. Anyone else is a pretender
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You mean like a multi-billion dollar arena and entertainment district that has to be privately financed? Minor detail.
Dirty Old Man
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I had to google that...if he changes it to "Skater 18" or maybe "Forward 13" then we know we're onto something.
TheLegend
"Just say it 3 times..."
The lease at Footprint goes until 2037.
Ishiba does want to pay the current price for an expansion now. Think what it’ll be like in 2037.
TheLegend
"Just say it 3 times..."
Just spitballing here…..and it’s really a long shot…. but ASU comes to mind.
TheLegend
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AZDesertKnight
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I'm well aware of the 2037 date
He didn't want the team now, not entirely because of price but because of the situation. He wasn't paying $1 billion for the Coyotes which AM wouldn't budge on - and the League wanted the $200 mill relocation payday. A clean slate expansion is another story.
TheLegend
"Just say it 3 times..."
He didn’t want the $1.2 billion price now…. You think he’s going to pay the near $2 billion the league will want in 2035 or so??
Personally I think the $1.2 billion Smith paid was too damn much but the league is going to charge what they want.
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I feel like NHL would be more willing to make amends with Glendale temporarily than go through mullett again. No clue, but Seravalli’s opinions certainly shouldn’t be discounted at this point.
Arizonatah Coyetis
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The D-backs will leave town and then C of P will all of a sudden agree to pay for MAJOR renovations to Chase Field so the NHL can return. 
All kidding aside, there's just nowhere for an NHL team to play here. The politicians (voters too) are not interested in helping to make it happen. Ishbia seems like our only hope but even he doesn't have a place for them to play.
Glendale is reporting that they've done better financially since the Coyotes moved out. Not sure they want the NHL back.
5 years seems like it would be impossible.
All kidding aside, there's just nowhere for an NHL team to play here. The politicians (voters too) are not interested in helping to make it happen. Ishbia seems like our only hope but even he doesn't have a place for them to play.
Glendale is reporting that they've done better financially since the Coyotes moved out. Not sure they want the NHL back.
5 years seems like it would be impossible.
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TheLegend
"Just say it 3 times..."
They won't go to Glendale. That bridge was burned, salted and nuked by both sides. As much as I'd love to see them there (being in Tolleson) it's going to require a major shift in the city council.
The two groups Craig Morgan mentioned he's talked to were looking downtown/east valley.
TheLegend
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The D-backs will leave town and then C of P will all of a sudden agree to pay for MAJOR renovations to Chase Field so the NHL can return.
CoP does not own Chase. Maricopa County does.
Psst..... ASU,
What they are reporting and what the raw numbers say are two different things.
But they will be fine. Westgate has grown to the point where the tax revenues have increased enough to make up for what the Coyotes generated for them.
AZDesertKnight
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He didn't want the "Coyotes" and he didn't want the team "Right now" in the timeline that SEG is currently operating. The less years Player15 would have to play at Footprint the better, so yeah they are taking their time.
He will pay expansion fees for an expansion team. Money is not the issue, he just didn't want the Coyotes as they were at this current time.
The Coyotes brand is dead, as it should be.
You're being an echo chamber of Craig Morgan media reports
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Realistically, Ishbia is the only serious choice that makes sense. And how long that takes depends. Personally, I think it's far more likely to be a distressed franchise than an expansion team, but hell, not like any of us really know. There will be no shortage of grifters who try to set up a redevelopment district with the arena as a loss leader to enrich themselves and join a club they never could afford to begin with.
TheLegend
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Seems to me more like you have Craig Morgan living rent free in your head.
SEG wasn't looking to have a team until three years from now. The league's indifference to Alex Meruelo changed that.... and Ryan Smith pulled it off in just five months with an arena that will need the same renovations as Footprint would to house NHL hockey (other than it still had the ice system.)
And Ryan Smith bought the Jazz just four years ago and had been looking for a better barn since he bought them.
And he still forked over the $1.2 billion.
AZDesertKnight
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Did you yank that from ChatGPT? You're again, parroting what we already knowSeems to me more like you have Craig Morgan living rent free in your head.
SEG wasn't looking to have a team until three years from now. The league's indifference to Alex Meruelo changed that.... and Ryan Smith pulled it off in just five months with an arena that will need the same renovations as Footprint would to house NHL hockey (other than it still had the ice system.)
And Ryan Smith bought the Jazz just four years ago and had been looking for a better barn since he bought them.
And he still forked over the $1.2 billion.
