Coach Discussion: All Purpose Coaching Thread Part III

[tbcwpg]

Is Laine STILL off from the 1st powerplay unit or what the heck is going on? I thought it was some kind of temporary experiment.

The PP as a whole has been pretty bad, Laine included. I don't think he's "earned" top PP time as much as anyone else on that top unit. I don't mind a different look for a bit to freshen up the obvious pass to Laine system they were working previously.

And before it gets mentioned, yes, none of the others have earned that slot either.

 

[kelsier]

The PP as a whole has been pretty bad, Laine included. I don't think he's "earned" top PP time as much as anyone else on that top unit. I don't mind a different look for a bit to freshen up the obvious pass to Laine system they were working previously.

And before it gets mentioned, yes, none of the others have earned that slot either.

And that there is the whole point. Laine actually has been good on the powerplay apart from getting his shots through or within the framework. Otherwise he's been absolute stellar moving puck to Pionk or Wheelers as well as controlling the game. Much better than Wheelers for instance. You simply don't take someone like that from your top powerplay unit. It's only matter of time when those shots start to go in again. On the powerplay Laine should be untouchable and in most teams he would be, but there is only one team that is coached by PMo.

 

[tbcwpg]

And that there is the whole point. Laine actually has been good on the powerplay apart from getting his shots through or within the framework. Otherwise he's been absolute stellar moving puck to Pionk or Wheelers as well as controlling the game. Much better than Wheelers for instance. You simply don't take someone like that from your top powerplay unit. It's only matter of time when those shots start to go in again. On the powerplay Laine should be untouchable and in most teams he would be, but there is only one team that is coached by PMo.

I think moving Laine to another unit to get him some other players to play with and a slightly different set up is far easier than moving 4 other guys off the PP1 just to accomodate Laine. He's been good with his assists lately, but his specialty on the PP is scoring goals and he has 0. It's not all him but he does need to take some level of responsibility for that. There's a lot of fans that seem to be hung up on line numbers and who's earned promotions and demotions. If Laine plays with the current "second unit" and it's successful, it will become the first unit.

I want to see the PP unit time a bit more even though. Laine is too big a PP threat to put on for the last 25 seconds of a power play. I understand if you have possession in the o-zone for a minute plus, the instinct isn't to come off for a line change, but the time should be more even.

 

[jepjepjoo]

Wait, STILL? Or was it just the last game?
That would be beyond unbelievable and pure insanity.

Yup, still... Apparently Mo likes high event PP1.

"We got a bunch of good looks out of it the game prior" (referring to the Sharks game)

Good looks? Which end?

PP1 against the sharks:
Scoring chances for: 2
Scoring chances against: 4

 

[nobody imp0rtant]

Could be wrong, but it's being reported...

NHL Rumors and Notes: Winnipeg Jets, Coaching UFAs, and the Edmonton Oilers - MyNHLTradeRumors.com

There are three coaches that could be ‘free agents’ after this season.

Detroit Red Wings Jeff Blashill signed a two-year extension last season, but year two is an option.

Minnesota Wild coach Bruce Boudreau only has two years as a consultant after this season, no coaching contract.

Winnipeg Jets Paul Maurice is in the last year of his deal with no options.

Nothing to worry about. I'm confident it's just a matter of getting salary and term worked out with Maurice's agent, and the team will be announcing a multi-year extension well before Maurice hits UFA.

 

[bennylundholm]

Is that you Paul?

Laine scored PP goals at a higher rate than anyone in the league(including Ovechkin) during his first 3 seasons...

Ya, your right.
Would make sense to have Laine out there.
Maybe have Ehlers up at the top of the umbrella quarterbacking it, Laine and Connor one-timing off either side, Scheif in the slot and Wheeler down low?

 

[stonec]

This team is currently 8-7-0 .

5 of the 8 wins have come in OT or a SO

5 of the 8 wins we have been out shot

We give up 33.7 shots per game, good for 5th worst.

We have the 2nd worst PK in the NHL.

JMO, but if it wasn't for goaltending, the Jets would probably be a lot closer to 3-12 then being 8-7.

Coaching is not the reason this team has any wins.

So it's on the players when the team wins, on the coach when they lose? Ok. And you conveniently forgot half of this team's defense is AHL level and that when Buff was out, there was disaster predicted over this team everywhere.

 

[10Ducky10]

Laine will get pp time whwn he is healed.
Maybe the next game, maybe the game after but he is playing at less than 100%. That is the reason he wasn't on the pp.

 

[Ducky10]

So it's on the players when the team wins, on the coach when they lose?

At 146 posts this is a very understandable question. The answer is of course yes but it’s slightly more complicated than you’ve observed. The coach is also to blame when they win, but not well enough. It’s an important distinction.

 

[KingBogo]

At 146 posts this is a very understandable question. The answer is of course yes but it’s slightly more complicated than you’ve observed. The coach is also to blame when they win, but not well enough. It’s an important distinction.

The coach is also to blame when they win, but your favourite player didn't get optimal usage and maximize his points total.

 

[Howard Chuck]

The coach is also to blame when they win, but your favourite player didn't get optimal usage and maximize his points total.

I don’t know. 55/26 gets lots of opportunities to maximize their point totals.

 

[AWSAA]

The coach is also to blame when they win, but your favourite player didn't get optimal usage and maximize his points total.

So just keep letting Wheeler get it all? He's never played one full game on a 2nd line under Maurice, always on PP1 and the first one out for the EN & OT.

That special treatment needs to end. Laine, Connor, and Ehlers have all passed him.

 

[Hunter368]

Pierre Lebrun stated on the radio today he believes beyond a shadow of a doubt PMO should be extended and states he's done a great job in Winnipeg. Me thinks a "few fans" are going to lose their minds if he gets a multi year extension. Haha

Maybe a few people will/should take a break from watching the Jets.

 

[KingBogo]

Pierre Lebrun stated on the radio today he believes beyond a shadow of a doubt PMO should be extended and states he's done a great job in Winnipeg. Me thinks a "few fans" are going to lose their minds if he gets a multi year extension. Haha

Maybe a few people will/should take a break from watching the Jets.

Interesting. If Maurice does get extended at some point it will make for very interesting times around here.

 

[Hunter368]

Interesting. If Maurice does get extended at some point it will make for very interesting times around here.

According to Pierre today he said PMO contract is done at the end of this season. I think there's a very solid chance he gets extended.

Interesting around here? I think some forget this is just a sport/game and take it waaaaaay to serious. Enjoy the experience, all the highs & lows.

 

[Joe Hallenback]

Unless we go in the absolute crapper and the players revolt, I think he gets extended.

 

[Hunter368]

Unless we go in the absolute crapper and the players revolt, I think he gets extended.

Agreed

 

[scelaton]

At 146 posts this is a very understandable question. The answer is of course yes but it’s slightly more complicated than you’ve observed. The coach is also to blame when they win, but not well enough. It’s an important distinction.

The coach is also to blame when they win, but your favourite player didn't get optimal usage and maximize his points total.

...and sometimes the coach and players are to blame when they win, because your favourite player played with your least favourite player instead of with your second most favourite player.
Chemistry, eh.

 

[Eyeseeing]

Unless we go in the absolute crapper and the players revolt, I think he gets extended.

I agree although I don’t believe it will work out long term.
We have only seen 2 1/2 good seasons under Maurice and we are tracking in the mushy middle of the league, where we were prior to Maurice.
An extension seems to indicate the organization is comfortable with just ok.
I think the high water mark was reached 2 years ago.
If we finish in the low 80’s for points and still gets extended, is that wise?
What’s the bench mark for going in the crapper?

I’m not a STH so it doesn’t really bother me.
It’s getting to the point on this thread there are 2 deeply divided sides with very few in the middle.

 

[surixon]

I think the only way Maurice is back is if the team starts to play with some consistency and structure. If things remain a mess then I don't see him being brought back.

 

[kanadalainen]

Re: Maurice...

Somehow I don't have a strong opinion. However I care a great deal about this team's success (or lack of it).

I'll suggest that those two realities may not require a tight connection.

But - I'm quite sure I've crossed the line as a fan: Ergo, its not a simple task to determine what is the best solution.

I think I'm starting to lose the trees for the forest.

Fan:
2.. a person who has a strong interest in or admiration for a particular person or thing.
:abbreviation of ‘fanatic’.

Disclaimer: sourced from an on-line dictionary.

 

[PhilJets]

I don’t know. 55/26 gets lots of opportunities to maximize their point totals.

This is so true

 

[cbcwpg]

Pierre Lebrun stated on the radio today he believes beyond a shadow of a doubt PMO should be extended and states he's done a great job in Winnipeg. Me thinks a "few fans" are going to lose their minds if he gets a multi year extension. Haha

Maybe a few people will/should take a break from watching the Jets.

I think it will be more than a few. IMO, Paul Maurice doesn't get blamed if he gets extended, it's not his fault if they offer him a contract. But offering him an extension if we really crap out this season , to me, shows that the problem with this team is at the top and in the GMs chair. It just tells me " mediocre together " is the acceptable goal of ownership.

Really, how many other teams go from WCF, to first round exit, to missing the playoffs, and run out and sign their coach to a long-term extension?

 

[Ducky10]

LeBrun said he thinks Maurice "should" get extended, not that he "would" get extended. Important distinction before jumping on the TNSE mediocrity bandwagon. Waiting for it to happen before getting upset about it is probably a good approach.

 

[Hunter368]

I think it will be more than a few. IMO, Paul Maurice doesn't get blamed if he gets extended, it's not his fault if they offer him a contract. But offering him an extension if we really crap out this season , to me, shows that the problem with this team is at the top and in the GMs chair. It just tells me " mediocre together " is the acceptable goal of ownership.

Really, how many other teams go from WCF, to first round exit, to missing the playoffs, and run out and sign their coach to a long-term extension?

I think that might mean that to you and some others........and yet again means something else totally to others.